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post #301 of 2470
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Weird that none of your sources fill the screen on 2.

Yep, no idea why
post #302 of 2470
Here are my re-calibrated settings using Cinema mode this time:

Picture mode - Cinema
Picture: +80
Brightness: +58
Color: +43
Tint: -5
Sharpness: +27
Color Temp: Warm
Color Mgmt: Off
x.v.Color: Off
Video NR: Off
MPEG NR: Off
Black Level: Light
HD Size: Size 1 (Size 2 for Blu-Ray)
post #303 of 2470
Ok, finally found someone to give me a calibration appointment. I just paid Gregg Loewen a travel fee, he said he should be out right before the 4th. WOOHOO!
post #304 of 2470
My friend and I just picked up our Panasonic TH-50PZ80U plasmas for $1299.00 each today without a hitch. We set up his plasma tonight since he already sold his old 50" POS LG plasma today for $500.00.

This thing looks SWEEEEEEEEEEEET. I brought over my BD version of DVE HD Basics and tuned it in to just about perfect. The settings from memory are:

Mode: Cinema (other modes had some video noise)
Temp: Normal (Warm wouldn't get all 3 primary colors correct with the gels)
Picture/Contrast: 45
Brightness: 45
Color: 40
Tint: +4
Sharpness: 60
Black Level: Light
HD size: 2
Video NR: on (did better with SD signals and didn't hurt HD signal's detail)
Color Mgmt: On
MPEG NR: Off

With those settings, all three color gels are damn near perfect. With the warm temp, I could not get more than ONE color gel to be correct.

His black levels are so much better and the false contouring no longer exists compared to what he had with that LG plasma.
post #305 of 2470
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Ok, finally found someone to give me a calibration appointment. I just paid Gregg Loewen a travel fee, he said he should be out right before the 4th. WOOHOO!

Your really gonna love his work, he calibrated my panny plasma a couple weeks ago and also my 65" Tosh DLP. Both sets are considerably better, and his knowledge is invalueable.
post #306 of 2470
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Originally Posted by PFC5 View Post

My friend and I just picked up our Panasonic TH-50PZ80U plasmas for $1299.00 each today without a hitch. We set up his plasma tonight since he already sold his old 50" POS LG plasma today for $500.00.

This thing looks SWEEEEEEEEEEEET. I brought over my BD version of DVE HD Basics and tuned it in to just about perfect. The settings from memory are:

Mode: Cinema (other modes had some video noise)
Temp: Normal (Warm wouldn't get all 3 primary colors correct with the gels)
Picture/Contrast: 45
Brightness: 45
Color: 40
Tint: +4
Sharpness: 60
Black Level: Light
HD size: 2
Video NR: on (did better with SD signals and didn't hurt HD signal's detail)
Color Mgmt: On
MPEG NR: Off

With those settings, all three color gels are damn near perfect. With the warm temp, I could not get more than ONE color gel to be correct.

His black levels are so much better and the false contouring no longer exists compared to what he had with that LG plasma.

Those are excellent settings for break-in but once you are over 100 hours you might try dialing up the picture setting to somewhere over 80.
post #307 of 2470
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

So you're saying 90 after calibration, not 90 to get 34fl?

Right, 34 fL needs a much lower contrast setting than 90... it will be in the 50s somewhere, more than likely, the exact setting depends whether you have adjusted gains in the service menu or not. So you can use Contrast set for a moderate light output (in the 50s somewhere, more than likely) in a dark room and run Contrast all the way up for daytime viewing. The small non-linearity that starts appearing at 100% white above ~90 is unlikely to be noticeable in a bright room anyway. It's typical of these panels to be able to use almost any Contrast setting and not see much change until you get down to 31 fL or so when the gray scale starts to wander around a bit more due the RGB tracking getting larger variations from step to step.
post #308 of 2470
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Originally Posted by rutlian View Post

Hi there your setting looks very good with my th46pz80u and love it, I had my tv for only 2 weeks can I leave it with setting now or wait until I reach 100 hours? and is there to find out how many hours we already consumed?
Thanks for posting your setting I love it.

Picture Mode: Custom
Picture: +74
Brightness: +53
Color: +54
Tint: -2
Sharpness: +14
Color Temp: Normal
Black Level: Light
Size: 2 when possible
All other settings: Off

I have the th46pz80 and this setting looks much better than the cinema setting. I think I did a 100hrs.
post #309 of 2470
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Originally Posted by Doug Blackburn View Post

Right, 34 fL needs a much lower contrast setting than 90... it will be in the 50s somewhere, more than likely, the exact setting depends whether you have adjusted gains in the service menu or not. So you can use Contrast set for a moderate light output (in the 50s somewhere, more than likely) in a dark room and run Contrast all the way up for daytime viewing. The small non-linearity that starts appearing at 100% white above ~90 is unlikely to be noticeable in a bright room anyway. It's typical of these panels to be able to use almost any Contrast setting and not see much change until you get down to 31 fL or so when the gray scale starts to wander around a bit more due the RGB tracking getting larger variations from step to step.

Thanks. Gregg Loewen should be calibrating my set in about 4 weeks.
post #310 of 2470
Hi,
Just got a 42PZ80U last weekend, and it's great.

Spent a long time avoiding HD because the displays are generally so terrible (my company makes the compression equipment for DirecTV and Dish, so I look at a lot of pristine monitors in the lab).

Anyway, I had been holding out for LCDs to get good enough, and the Samsung 650 looks pretty good, but for a lot more $$. When I saw the Panasonic, I was amazed by the bang for the buck, so I got one.

So here's my question: I have seen a lot of traffic about break-in issues. I'm using a DirecTV HD DVR, and for SD channels, using Pilar vs. stretch mode makes a *much* better picture. Based on some of the comments, should I be worried about the black on the sides during break-in? I try to watch as much real HD as possible, so SD is probably 1/3 of the viewing or less.

Another thing that I noticed when checking out the sets in the stores was the considerable amount of video noise, and I was concerned that it would bug me. But when I got mine home, there is very little noise, and I hardly notice it. One thought I had about this was the cavalier attitude that the Circuit City guys had towards laying the panel down flat; they suggested that I lay it flat to take it home and let it stand up for a few hours before turning it on...sounded pretty sketchy (I got another car and took it standing up). I wonder whether some of the noisy screens I saw had anything to do with the panels being mishandled.

Any tips about break-in would be appreciated. Looks like a good group here.

Thanks,

Marty
post #311 of 2470
edit: I guess I should put this in the owners thread..........

I am seeing a little noise in the background on the two Blu-rays (300, DeJavu) that I tired. Is that normal with a brand new set?
post #312 of 2470
Both movies have some noise, ESPECIALLY 300. Be sure to use cinema mode regardless.
post #313 of 2470
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Both movies have some noise, ESPECIALLY 300. Be sure to use cinema mode regardless.

Cheers - I just picked up Pirates and Bond off Amazon for $15 each, I hope their PQ is a little better.
post #314 of 2470
Remember, there's a difference between film grain and video noise.

300 has a TON of grain.
post #315 of 2470
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Originally Posted by Patrick. View Post

This is interesting, would like to hear Tom's input on this one. I thought the problem was related to gamma which is unchangeable in the SM. Can anyone else who got a similar calibration confirm these findings?

Here's the gamma data I get for the Custom mode with a Picture setting of 60.

Stim fL
10% 0.181
20% 1.5
30% 4.1
40% 8.2
50% 12.9
60% 18.5
70% 23.4
80% 27.3
90% 32.0
100% 36.9

Average Gamma: 1.62.

I don't see how an average gamma of 2.24 in Custom mode is possible. I'd like to see the raw data.
post #316 of 2470
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Originally Posted by frankmar View Post

Picture Mode: Custom
Picture: +74
Brightness: +53
Color: +54
Tint: -2
Sharpness: +14
Color Temp: Normal
Black Level: Light
Size: 2 when possible
All other settings: Off

I have the th46pz80 and this setting looks much better than the cinema setting. I think I did a 100hrs.

Here are some pics of the 46pz80 Please tell me what needs to be ajusted. TIA
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post #317 of 2470
Quick question reguarding Calibration...I have a friend that does it for Best Buy and will pretty much do it for free. Is this ok or is it nothing like an ISF certified person or whatever? I'm willing to pay the money if a real pro is gonna do something different and better than a dude from Best Buy. I don't wanna insult my friend and ask him if he's good and I know he'll pay extra attention to my set but I just wonder is Best Buy's service the same?
post #318 of 2470
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Originally Posted by GQman2121 View Post

Cheers - I just picked up Pirates and Bond off Amazon for $15 each, I hope their PQ is a little better.


They will be.
post #319 of 2470
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Originally Posted by aKa DaShiznit View Post

Quick question reguarding Calibration...I have a friend that does it for Best Buy and will pretty much do it for free. Is this ok or is it nothing like an ISF certified person or whatever? I'm willing to pay the money if a real pro is gonna do something different and better than a dude from Best Buy. I don't wanna insult my friend and ask him if he's good and I know he'll pay extra attention to my set but I just wonder is Best Buy's service the same?

I'd go ISF, the last BB calibration we saw in here was pretty nasty. Your friend may know A/V but the service menu is a complicated beast and video calibration is very difficult without proper training. I myself am very comfortable with computers and electronics and I wouldn't even use the SM period. There's a reason these guys charge a good chunk of change for their services, not everyone can do what they do
post #320 of 2470
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Originally Posted by Patrick. View Post

I'd go ISF, the last BB calibration we saw in here was pretty nasty. Your friend may know A/V but the service menu is a complicated beast and video calibration is very difficult without proper training. I myself am very comfortable with computers and electronics and I wouldn't even use the SM period. There's a reason these guys charge a good chunk of change for their services, not everyone can do what they do

I agree. Bbuy is trying to broaden their services, but these ISF guys are trained and its what they do. Im also a tech/pc junkie(have built plenty of my own pc's for gaming, written simple software in college) and I have no interest of entering the SM.
post #321 of 2470
Picture Mode: Custom
Picture: +74
Brightness: +53
Color: +54
Tint: -2
Sharpness: +14
Color Temp: Normal
Black Level: Light
Size: 2 when possible
All other settings: Off

I have the th46pz80 and this setting looks much better than the cinema setting. I think I did a 100hrs.

Last night the lighting was not great to take pictures, this what I did, took some sample pics from my Laptop, copied them to the SD card and viewed them on the TV and took some pics of the tv. Maybe you can tell if the above settings are good. The prev pics showed a little more red maybe due to the RED WINGS
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post #322 of 2470
here are a couple more, no flash was used.
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post #323 of 2470
What did you dislike about Cinema? Ive tried tinkering with Custom a few times, but the noise just drives me nuts.
post #324 of 2470
Yeah-back on the "custom" setting opinions. I have one set up and use it with Late Night with David Letterman but it's a bit washed out and I really can't use it reliably on any other source. I find Cinema at Elwaylight's settings works best across the board.
post #325 of 2470
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

What did you dislike about Cinema? Ive tried tinkering with Custom a few times, but the noise just drives me nuts.

If referring to me, Cinema looks ok, but I find the custom a bit more lively or enlighten(a little brighter) while the cinema, looks a little fade or like old movies.

Excuse my ignorance what do you mean with Custom a few times, but the noise
do refer to noisy or distortion or what. TIA
post #326 of 2470
I'd say your color is way too high. Anything over 44 looks fake to me. I have mine at 41.
post #327 of 2470
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

What did you dislike about Cinema? Ive tried tinkering with Custom a few times, but the noise just drives me nuts.

For some reason I keep on going back to my Custom Settings..maybe its because I like a Brighter Picture..then what Cinema is giving me through my Time Warner Cable System.

I seem to get better skin colors on Custon then Cinema..I figure once I get the skin tons correct or most life like everything else will fall into place.

my TV is in the basement with one over head light between me and the TV..

My Custom Settings are..

Picture 60
Bright 45
Color 35
Tint 2
Sharp...45

Color Temp..Warm

and using HD 2 for screen size...

watching night time baseball using Cinema..I have a hard time seeing the batter..and for me Custom makes it brighter ..somewhere inbetween Cinema and Game settings..

I am not sure how much difference in picture Quality there is from getting your Feed from Cable and Dish/Direct...

maybe if my picture coming in was on the brighter side maybe Cinema would be better for me..

I know most on here like the Cinema better...but not me..

then again I am have Cataract surgery in a week and maybe that will get me to change from Custom to Cinema..lol
post #328 of 2470
Maybe Ill try calibrating custom with dve and watch the Nascar race today OTA, this way I can flop back and forth to compare it to cinema. Ill also be watching No Country For Old Men tonight on bluray, so Ill try and run Custom on that too. If it looks bad on that particular movie(has great PQ reviews), then its just not for me.

I see on tv is a 46", marty whats yours? Just wondering if Im seeing more noise in Custom on my 50" compared to the 46".
post #329 of 2470
is what I have....

do you get your picture from Cable or Dish/Direct..not sure how much of a difference in PQ there is because of the feed..
post #330 of 2470
I just used DVE for custom

pic 60
bright 50
color 44
warm

Using nascar and tennis (HD OTA), custom is noisier than cinema. When I use Cinema, I see ZERO noise. I never have an issue with the brightness of Cinema, so Ill just leave it. The tv is getting calibrated in 4 weeks or so, so I wont have anything to worry about then
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