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post #151 of 3237
4/27/08 at 9:07pm
oh btw, do you guys have energy setting set ON? does that affect PQ if enabled? i have it OFF..
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post #152 of 3237
4/27/08 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

I see, i know this is not final but say , for THIS years TV series, the a550 that is, what is our best setting that we have in hand so FAR by YOUR opinions, TheBeginings or Crispys? and i mean by Overall PQ..

cheers.


Well that is the thing... its up to you. Everyone will have different opinions on what is best for them. Just gotta try them all and/or find your own. Then share!

Justin
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post #153 of 3237
4/27/08 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

i just tested your settings outsider, my initial reaction was a lowering in the pop effect i guess i can call that, lower brightness i think, i kept on switching between movie(your settings) and dynamic(thebegining's setting) i dont know but thebeginings just brightens up and has more color, to my eyes at least, i think its because that has to do with DNIe off aswell because that setting is really amazing, bad its disabled on MOVIE mode. but i dont know overall i think that im going to keep the begining's setting for some more time, theres 1 more thing i found out thanks to you, i checked the JUST SCAN setting for the first time and it changes the output image to it's original size, correct? so theres no cutoff parts of the image etc yea? i set my 360 and ps3 for just scan but i kept it on 16:9 on the cable. anyway its good that we are sharing these settings guys because eveyrone is expiriencing here and defintley getting BETTER results than the default settings, thats for sure. Thebegining said he will tweak his own settings a bit in some time so im defintley looking out for that. oh and a comment about crispy's ORIGINAL settings, um, it did look a LITTLE BIT green but not really, just a bit. its a nice setting tho.

oh and i have 1 question about the HDMI Black Level setting, what is it best to set it on, LOW or NORMAL? i kept switching back and forth between low and normal but cant really decide what changes or if im loosing/gaining detail with any. and 1 more thing, guys with a PS3 here, do you have the SUPERWHITE setting enabled on your PS3s?


I keep mine on low. With both the 1499 settings and cripsys settings, I noticed a big difference when I switched between the two.

Justin
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post #154 of 3237
4/27/08 at 10:03pm
ok ill keep it on low aswell then.
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post #155 of 3237
4/28/08 at 12:29am
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Originally Posted by outsiderwv View Post

They look better than the beginnings (to my eyes that is). His are more saturated and look unnatural. I like them a little better than cripsys just for the warm 1 setting, but again, each set is different. I won't know what my true settings are until i get my set ISF calibrated in a couple months.

Reason many have taken my settings over all of them. Cause mine have looked the best, and I never copied your settings and thru DNIe on. I used DVE, for my settings, sorry they came out the same as yours.
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post #156 of 3237
4/28/08 at 4:20am
Does any of you hear a little Hmmm sound when you listen close up to the back of the TV with volume on mute? Is this normal?
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post #157 of 3237
4/28/08 at 4:34am
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Originally Posted by TheBeginning View Post

Reason many have taken my settings over all of them. Cause mine have looked the best, and I never copied your settings and thru DNIe on. I used DVE, for my settings, sorry they came out the same as yours.


The Beginning how do you turn DNIe on?? The setting is greyed out in my menu, not letting me toggle it on or off. How do I gain access to this setting? Thanks in advance.
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post #158 of 3237
4/28/08 at 4:38am
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

socceradm, i just noticed that aswell. i just changed my theme to the ps3 original theme, the background is green in this case, anyway i tried changing rgb to FULL and the green became more lively to say correctly, so i tried changing to limited and the green gets this greyer tint rather than a VIVID green, i think FULL is actually our correct setting, what you guys think? oh and also outsider, what do you have your OUTPUT set on? AUTO OR Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr OR RGB

I have my Blue-Ray /DVD playback set to Y Pb/CB Pr/CR. I have superwhite set to on as well. I am pretty sure these TV support full range (wide) colors. I was going by another thread that said this is what you should have it set up for. However, if it looks better with RGB full on, you can leave it at that and maybe I will go back and try it myself. This will have no effect on Blue-Ray or DVD if you set the output to Y Pb/CB Pr/CR instead of RGB.

Beginning, your settings aren't bad. They are just heavily color saturated. If you used DVE and got the same settings, that is pretty good. Just odd how we had similar Tint when I used a color lens/filter to correct mine as well as the same color, backlight, contrast, and brightness. Oh well, I have worked with some just like you . Seriously though, they just aren't for me. But to each his own, I am glad you like em.
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post #159 of 3237
4/28/08 at 4:45am
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Originally Posted by slicker007 View Post

Does any of you hear a little Hmmm sound when you listen close up to the back of the TV with volume on mute? Is this normal?

Yes - I noticed my 37" A556 had a humming/buzzing sound from the TV when I was first setting it up.
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post #160 of 3237
4/28/08 at 5:47am
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

oh btw, do you guys have energy setting set ON? does that affect PQ if enabled? i have it OFF..

It just lowers the overall brightness of the set. I have mine set to low.
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post #161 of 3237
4/28/08 at 5:51am
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Originally Posted by mglick25 View Post

The Beginning how do you turn DNIe on?? The setting is greyed out in my menu, not letting me toggle it on or off. How do I gain access to this setting? Thanks in advance.


DNIe is turned on autmaticlly when using the DYNAMIC mode
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post #162 of 3237
4/28/08 at 5:52am
Thanks Outsider, is there a reason you set output to Y Pb/CB Pr/CR and not RGB?
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post #163 of 3237
4/28/08 at 5:57am
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Thanks Outsider, is there a reason you set output to Y Pb/CB Pr/CR and not RGB?

It looks better . Seriously, if you do a search in these forums or on google, they will all say to use Y Pb/CB Pr/CR if you can.

Here is one of the many threads you can find. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=868032
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post #164 of 3237
4/28/08 at 8:00am
To those that are setting the HDMI Black Level to Low instead of Normal, be sure that the source you are on is sending a signal that actually is providing the lower information to make use of that lower black level. Otherwise, while you will see lower blacks, you are also going to be experiencing serious black crush, and hence, loss of detail in shadows.
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post #165 of 3237
4/28/08 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by tmeader View Post

To those that are setting the HDMI Black Level to Low instead of Normal, be sure that the source you are on is sending a signal that actually is providing the lower information to make use of that lower black level. Otherwise, while you will see lower blacks, you are also going to be experiencing serious black crush, and hence, loss of detail in shadows.

Using it for the PS3. And on Xbox but with the xbox on standard reference levels. This correct because otherwise the image is not correct as people have stated above. Now if I have RGB to full and that setting on low on the PS3 then I have black crush, same goes for Xbox if it is on expanded and TV is on low, otherwise it looks as it should.
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post #166 of 3237
4/28/08 at 10:54am
Ok,heres my settings for a 37 550, I have found that TNT, HDnet, and Mhd look very bad on this set
but this is not the TV, its due to compression of the content NOT the tv.How do i know this?because
I watched a basketball game on TNT and it looked bad,then later I went to ESPN and saw the highlights of the same game and it looked great.So the ghosting and motion blur you see on this tv is due to programming compression not the tv.The more megs per second (Bandwidth)you throw into the signal,the better the picture is (to a point).Thats why the PS3 and XBox look so good and the
tv signal,not as good.
These settings are for a 37 550 ONLY and do not apply to the 40,46,and 52.

This 37550 has a BIG red Push in the skin tones and is very hard to get out. It also has over-exposed Whites that can not be gotten rid of completly. If anyone has better figures for this set please come ahead with them.


Mode Movie
Backlight 7 Bright room 5 Dark room
Contrast 84
Brightness 52
Sharpness 10
Color 55
Tint G55 R45

Detailed Settings

Black Adjust Low
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Gamma 0
Color Space Custom
Red 18
Green ok
Blue ok
Yellow ok
Cyan Red 0 Green 40 Blue 40
Magenta ok

White Balance

R-Off 25
G-Off 25
B-Off 25
R-Gain 3
G-Gain 12
B-Gain 25

Flesh Tone +8
Edge inhance Off
Picture Options

Color Tone Warm 2
Size 16:9
Digital NR OFF
HDMI Black Level Low
Film Mode Auto
Blue only Off
Energy Savings OFF

Thats the best I can get with the 37 550. Anybody have anything better, Help us out

Nthstar
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post #167 of 3237
4/28/08 at 11:26am
So on my 360, if I have the reference level set to "expanded," I should have the HDMI black level set to low? And if it's set to "standard" it can be on normal?
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post #168 of 3237
4/28/08 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

DNIe is turned on autmaticlly when using the DYNAMIC mode


Okay, thanks dude.
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post #169 of 3237
4/28/08 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Thanks Outsider, is there a reason you set output to Y Pb/CB Pr/CR and not RGB?

its the only way to pass blacker-than-black (when super-white is enabled). it should technically look better and its the recommended setting. using RGB, theres no way you can pass BTB.

RGB Limited is also recommended. if your samsung has the setting like my older samsung, you should set "HDMI Black Level" to low (its in the setup menu, not the picture menu).

fwiw, PS3 games and the XMB are RGB regardless of the output you select.
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post #170 of 3237
4/28/08 at 1:19pm
hey guys anyone have harry potter 4? was watching the movie and noticed peoples faces had grey patches on them? Maybe im not used to it or is that just the way the movie is colored?
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post #171 of 3237
4/28/08 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by ekimneems View Post

So on my 360, if I have the reference level set to "expanded," I should have the HDMI black level set to low? And if it's set to "standard" it can be on normal?

You should have one of the following configs for your Xbox. (HDMI) I read this somewhere else before.

1. You should have the Xbox reference level on "standard" and the TV HDMI setting on Low

OR

2. You should have the Xbox reference level on "expanded" and the TV HDMI setting on normal


If you combine both the "expanded" reference setting and the "Low" HDMI TV setting, the picture will experience black crush.


You should also have the following config for your PS3 (HDMI)

Blue-Ray/DVD output set to "Y Pb/CB Pr/CR"
RGB set to "Limited"
Superwhite set to "Enabled"
TV HDMI black level Setting set to "Low"
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post #172 of 3237
4/28/08 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by outsiderwv View Post

You should have one of the following configs for your Xbox. (HDMI) I read this somewhere else before.

1. You should have the Xbox reference level on "standard" and the TV HDMI setting on Low

OR

2. You should have the Xbox reference level on "expanded" and the TV HDMI setting on normal


If you combine both the "expanded" reference setting and the "Low" HDMI TV setting, the picture will experience black crush.


You should also have the following config for your PS3 (HDMI)

Blue-Ray/DVD output set to "Y Pb/CB Pr/CR"
RGB set to "Limited"
Superwhite set to "Enabled"
TV HDMI black level Setting set to "Low"

Thanks!
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post #173 of 3237
4/28/08 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by mglick25 View Post

The Beginning how do you turn DNIe on?? The setting is greyed out in my menu, not letting me toggle it on or off. How do I gain access to this setting? Thanks in advance.

Change the source name from Game or PC to something else

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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post

its the only way to pass blacker-than-black (when super-white is enabled). it should technically look better and its the recommended setting. using RGB, theres no way you can pass BTB.

RGB Limited is also recommended. if your samsung has the setting like my older samsung, you should set "HDMI Black Level" to low (its in the setup menu, not the picture menu).

fwiw, PS3 games and the XMB are RGB regardless of the output you select.

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Originally Posted by ekimneems View Post

Thanks!

Nope, Use "Standard" and "Normal", it is the only way I was able to get BTB to show. Those recommendations are for a different TV.
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post #174 of 3237
4/28/08 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

Change the source name from Game or PC to something else





Nope, Use "Standard" and "Normal", it is the only way I was able to get BTB to show. Those recommendations are for a different TV.

That is incorrect. I can pass BTB and WTW with Superwhite enabled and my TV HDMI setting on Low.
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post #175 of 3237
4/28/08 at 3:01pm
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Mglick25............Make sure that you are using the Dynamic mode. This is the only mode that the DNIe option is available from.
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post #176 of 3237
4/28/08 at 4:15pm
hey there all, i just connected my Cable with an HDMI cable for the first time, i had it with component before, and i think im having some kind of a strange problem, i set the setting to THEBEGINING's settings , i set hdmi black level to LOW, and the main setting is dynamic of course, but i seem to have a problem , on some hd channels u know while commercials and stuff there are black bars on the sides of the screen, well, they should be black and WERE black when i used component but now with HDMI, its more of a grey, im kindda confused, do i need to do something to fix this?
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post #177 of 3237
4/28/08 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

hey there all, i just connected my Cable with an HDMI cable for the first time, i had it with component before, and i think im having some kind of a strange problem, i set the setting to THEBEGINING's settings , i set hdmi black level to LOW, and the main setting is dynamic of course, but i seem to have a problem , on some hd channels u know while commercials and stuff there are black bars on the sides of the screen, well, they should be black and WERE black when i used component but now with HDMI, its more of a grey, im kindda confused, do i need to do something to fix this?

Each tv is slightly different. Additionally, by setting the tv to dynamic it introduces alot of processing by the tv. Try some other settings, cripsy's have grown on me and are what i am using currently. I know it is a pain but try alot of different settings until you find what works best for you
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post #178 of 3237
4/28/08 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

hey there all, i just connected my Cable with an HDMI cable for the first time, i had it with component before, and i think im having some kind of a strange problem, i set the setting to THEBEGINING's settings , i set hdmi black level to LOW, and the main setting is dynamic of course, but i seem to have a problem , on some hd channels u know while commercials and stuff there are black bars on the sides of the screen, well, they should be black and WERE black when i used component but now with HDMI, its more of a grey, im kindda confused, do i need to do something to fix this?

I think you need to reduce your Brightness setting. Try the setting I posted the other day. (#124)
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post #179 of 3237
4/28/08 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by chef jer View Post

Each tv is slightly different. Additionally, by setting the tv to dynamic it introduces alot of processing by the tv. Try some other settings, cripsy's have grown on me and are what i am using currently. I know it is a pain but try alot of different settings until you find what works best for you


im not new to this thread lol, i had my TV hooked up for the past few days since i got my tv a few days ago , with component for the cable TV and it was great , now i bought the HDMI cable, its the same brand of cable im using for my PS3(got it from monoprice , its the brand new 1.3a versions) but the thing is, its like the Cable TV channels lost quality or something since i moved from the component to the hdmi, i used the extact same TV setting i used for when i had the cable hooked with Component(Monster component cables). i mean i thought it should look better with the HDMI, i dont know the term but when watcing a channel it doesnt look as it should and sharp(hd channels) , i mean it does but not as much as the component. i have 1 question, i have the Monster PowerCenter 800 series (got it as a gift when i bought the TV a few days ago) , heres a link to it: http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=1033


and it has a CABLE IN and CABLE OUT jacks on the side aswell, its says it filters the noise out of the CABLE IN signal so yea well i have my cable in line that comes from the wall in my apartment hooked up into the CABLE IN jack on the monster powercenter, then i have another coaxial cable going from the CABLE OUT on the monster powercenter into my cable box, and finally i have another coaxial cable going from my cable box's CABLE OUT jack going into the TV, all coaxial cables have gold plated tips so no crappy cables. so my question is, this process where im running my signal line through the monster powercenter , im not loosing anything right? i mean i can just be gaining by the monster powercenter cleaning the signal, it cant be that its lowering the quality with all this process of going from the wall to the powercenter , from the power center to the cable box and form the cable box to the TV .
what you think?
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post #180 of 3237
4/28/08 at 6:50pm
ok just to test i disconnected from the MONSTER POWERCENTER and did the CABLE IN directly from my wall into the cable box's CABLE IN jack and from the cable box's CABLE OUT stright into the TV, and the HDMI now looks just as good as the component i think, hey i have 1 question, the cable box has a setting for output resoltuon, i have it set on 1080i ONLY, should i enable 480p and 720p aswell? oh and now that i use HDMI with the Cable box, i have the setting FILM MODE in the TV Settings selecatble, should i set it to AUTO or OFF?
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