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post #3001 of 3237
Wow, quite a bit added to the thread since the last time I visited the forums.

jcalabria, I find your 1007 settings to be just fine on my 1006 LN32A550. Looks nice and bright, more pop than clicq's settings. True HD programming looks absolutely stunning, but I think clicq's settings look better on upscaled TV shows (like old Law & Order eps) as well as slightly older or compressed HD shows (like the Mecum Auction stuff on HD Theater.) I think I'll stick with your settings on the PS3, but use clicq's settings to watch TV with. Seems to be the best mix.

And on that note, has anyone developed some solid calibration settings for the Wii using component cables? For the life of me I cannot get anything decent-looking on my own. I can calibrate decent colors, but then it's hard to read text; I can correct for the text but then the image looks slightly washed out and jagged. Has anyone calibrated this thing decently?
post #3002 of 3237
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Originally Posted by Desides View Post

Wow, quite a bit added to the thread since the last time I visited the forums.

jcalabria, I find your 1007 settings to be just fine on my 1006 LN32A550. Looks nice and bright, more pop than clicq's settings. True HD programming looks absolutely stunning, but I think clicq's settings look better on upscaled TV shows (like old Law & Order eps) as well as slightly older or compressed HD shows (like the Mecum Auction stuff on HD Theater.) I think I'll stick with your settings on the PS3, but use clicq's settings to watch TV with. Seems to be the best mix.

And on that note, has anyone developed some solid calibration settings for the Wii using component cables? For the life of me I cannot get anything decent-looking on my own. I can calibrate decent colors, but then it's hard to read text; I can correct for the text but then the image looks slightly washed out and jagged. Has anyone calibrated this thing decently?

For the Wii I just use the standard settings. It's what brings out the colors I think I SHOULD be seeing from the system, what can I say? I use the calibration for my PS3 and Blu-ray player and cable box but, I found the Wii to be WAY too warm with them.
post #3003 of 3237
In what post are the settings of mr jcalabria posted as these seem to combine the "scientific" color rightness and some good old popular 'pop'?
post #3004 of 3237
Just had my main board swapped out and didn't have my problem solved so the techs are gonna install a new panel.

Anyway, I noticed that it has firmware version 1009.2. Wonder what happened between this and 1008.1? My old board was 1006.1, but people have talked about the latest being 1008.1
post #3005 of 3237
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Originally Posted by zoldarLE40A552 View Post

In what post are the settings of mr jcalabria posted as these seem to combine the "scientific" color rightness and some good old popular 'pop'?

The last I posted were here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=2464


Keep in mind a few things:
  • Due to some health issues I have never really completed these they way I intended. They were a work in progress when I posted them, and still are. I'm just about 100% again and just about done catching up on the other more important things I had set aside for a few months, so I'm just about ready to get back at it with my TV... with about 5 extra months of research and learning to help me out.
  • My set is one of those that had a pronounced green push from the factory... if your set does not you will likely see these settings as kinda pushing towards magenta. Clicq's or Mahlerfan's may be more appropriate for sets that did not have the green push. I think that Mahlerfan's most recent settings have raised his contrast settings closer to the fL levels of my setup, too.
  • Along the same lines, as my set has aged, the green push has lessened to a degree. Not in any "calibrated" way, but until I get myself set up to rerun my calibrations, I have dealt with it by raising the G Gain by 2 clicks in the white balance menu.
  • Then there is the standard proclamation... any settings obtained from another set's calibration are not likely to be a match for your set... consider yourself lucky if they look good on your set.
post #3006 of 3237
Well, I liked the very natural picture of clicq's setting in post #995 and I used it for quite a long time, but I also have that annoying "green push", so it was time for a change.

jcalabria, thx for posting your settings! It almost kills that greenyshit completely out of my picture. Though it would be nice, if you finished your calibration when you feel better with your health. I would be very happy about a new/final calibration
post #3007 of 3237
I had been coming to this thread for a while when I bought my television but haven't recently...

For any firmware prior to 1006... clicq's settings are the best if you prefer as close to 6500k settings.

I've tried minor tweaks and changes to brightness, contrast, but I end up losing more than gaining. So I have to say clicq's settings are as close as you can get without having to resort to a "professional calibration"...

Remember that even though the models are the same, there maybe differences in the source material, changes in the panel, the quality of the equipment.

1006.1, from what I read, did more harm than good because it gave the television the dreaded "red-push" that usually plagues a lot of HDTV's...(EDIt: What I mean is, sets that did not have any prior issues now tended to a have a "red-push"... this is only for those who upgraded to 1006.1) Aside from that, 1007 and 1008 that ship with newer models contain no bug fixes or changes, which is why Samsung hasn't seen to warrant a release on their website.

So, if you have a firmware prior to 1006.1 stick to clicq's if you want as close to 6500k as possible. I use those settings whenever I blu-rays. A lot of people don't like calibrated settings and that is natural because we are used to "dynamic" or "vivid" for so long.

But to each his own... pick what you like best.

EDIT: Just for kicks, I tried Jcalabria's settings on my 1004.1 original set and I can see he was trying to eliminate his green push lol. Because, although, still pretty good, on my set the greens look faded and skewer towards blue a bit. Also, it introduces a bit too much red as well. I'm not discounting his settings in anyway. They are good, but you can tell they were customized towards how his panel is displayed along with his firmware being different.
post #3008 of 3237
i have a rather simple question...

i looked up my firmware and it says 1005.1, but when i look to see who's settings i should follow none are specifically for this firmware version, so can someone tell me who's i should be following for the best results?

thank you.
post #3009 of 3237
Hey all,

Tried updating my firmware tonight and it can't seem to find the USB. i never used wiselink before, so i gave it a shot too, and it can't find the USB either. The stick itself gets quite hot, so i guess its getting power.

Formatted to FAT32
4GB transcend
followed firmware update PDF too the t.

Any thoughts?
post #3010 of 3237
Ok so I bought this set about a year ago, bought a cheapo Magnavox Blu ray player, didn't look like the Blu ray players in Sears and Bestbuy. Tried every calibration settings on this forum and the set still looks like crap. So I figure maybe it's the crappy player. I go out tonight pick up a $360 Samsung top of the line player and guess what it looks as good as my $128 Magnavox player. Un Fn Believable. What a waste of time Bring back this set it's crap. I won't waste a dime on some idiot to calibrate my set, I'm sure it would be a waste. It doesn't look like Blu ray, they jump out like they do in the stores.. My friend had the 770 series what a difference, with an older Samsun Blu ray player.. Does anyone have a good Pop out of the TV ala Bestbuy display settings. I've tried all of the setting here and they look good, but not Blu ray good. 1080p my @$$
post #3011 of 3237
Lol
post #3012 of 3237
Quote:
Originally Posted by rippinitup7 View Post

i have a rather simple question...

i looked up my firmware and it says 1005.1, but when i look to see who's settings i should follow none are specifically for this firmware version, so can someone tell me who's i should be following for the best results?

thank you.

If you had read the post right above yours, I mentioned this:

"For any firmware prior to 1006.1... clicq's settings are the best if you prefer as close to 6500k settings"

Clicq's settings are the best if you prefer calibrated 6500k settings on any firmware PRIOR to 1006.1

As for the one poster wanting POP like he sees in the stores, it has nothing to do with blu-ray quality. You can view your blu-rays in black or white if you want. Most directors prefer you view them at 6500k calibrated settings but you can view however you want.

One word of advice though, you shouldn't come to a calibration thread if you want to watch TV in the stock POP/Dynamic settings. And then you especially shouldn't call other people's settings, who spend hours trying to make them perfect and sharing them with everyone else, crap.

They could just as easily keep their settings to themselves but they want to help fellow owners and enthusiasts.
post #3013 of 3237
I said the image still looked like crap not the because of the setting, but because of the bullsh!t they pull in the stores. Hey this set look great, get it home wow what a difference. Then you expect someone to pay you $400 to calibrate the set!!!!! F-Off!!! I'm not bashing anyone's settings, but these settings don't help get the in store look that make people buy this crap.. As a matter of fact they look in my opinion worse. I went to Bestbuy the other day and they had a side by side comparison the calibrated one looked like a stinkin CRT... I'm glad people are here to help that's what makes forums great, Cars, appliances, anything you can think of. But this set to me sucks...
I would return it in a heartbeat if I could.. LN52A550 crap in the Blu ray department..
post #3014 of 3237
So are you saying you prefer the store settings? The pictures in store are brightly lit, and the color is blown out in order to catch your eye. You're going to get awful AWFUL skin and color tones, you'll get bleeding colors, you'll get your EYES to burn out of your face with how bright it would be at home. Representation at stores are nothing more than there to catch your eye, they are far from accurate. The TV is fine, it's your eyes that are the judge, and apparantly you don't like the more 'accurate' settings. That's fine. You shouldn't be bitching about the TV because of it though, the TV is fine. Tweak the settings yourself if you're so unhappy.
post #3015 of 3237
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Originally Posted by TheV View Post

I said the image still looked like crap not the because of the setting, but because of the bullsh!t they pull in the stores. Hey this set look great, get it home wow what a difference. Then you expect someone to pay you $400 to calibrate the set!!!!! F-Off!!! I'm not bashing anyone's settings, but these settings don't help get the in store look that make people buy this crap.. As a matter of fact they look in my opinion worse. I went to Bestbuy the other day and they had a side by side comparison the calibrated one looked like a stinkin CRT... I'm glad people are here to help that's what makes forums great, Cars, appliances, anything you can think of. But this set to me sucks...
I would return it in a heartbeat if I could.. LN52A550 crap in the Blu ray department..

LOL ! wonder why mine looks absolutely great with Blu Rays with clicq's 995 settings

I think you should go to the menu and increase all parameters in pic settings to max, and get a horrible gaudy looking pic, 'cause that's what they look like in the store LOL
post #3016 of 3237
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Originally Posted by dasher123 View Post

LOL ! wonder why mine looks absolutely great with Blu Rays with clicq's 995 settings

I think you should go to the menu and increase all parameters in pic settings to max, and get a horrible gaudy looking pic, 'cause that's what they look like in the store LOL

I believe if he does a reset on the TV, the initial startup will give him a choice to run the TV in "store mode". If that's what he prefers, he paid his money and can watch it however he prefers.

To steal a phrase from Chris (Mr. Audyssey) on the Audyssey thread... it's just Preference vs Reference. There's nothing wrong with going with Preference... it just seems a little strange that he's ranting about it in a calibration thread dedicated to achieving reference standards.
post #3017 of 3237
but what i don't get is, when he 1st turned the tv on, wasn't it on store mode? why didn't he keep it the way it was, if he liked the "pop" s much...?
I think I had to take it out of the store/torch mode when i 1st set it up...

how did he miss that?
post #3018 of 3237
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Originally Posted by dasher123 View Post

but what i don't get it, when he 1st turned the tv on, wasn't it on store mode? I think I had to take it out of the store/torch mode when i 1st set it up...

how did he miss that?

Well... it's somewhat logical to put it in home mode initially if you don't realize at the time that you really WANT store mode, as he apparently does. Just offering a suggestion that might get him what he's seeking.
post #3019 of 3237
Hey jcalabria, I liked your last tweaked settings very much because I also have that "green push" on my TV (LE37A550). With your settings I am quite happy.

BUT : Do you have some improved settings or will you soon release some new? That would be great
post #3020 of 3237
So....I've had the ln46a550 for a little over a year now and I just stumbled on this thread. Very eye opening, but I must admit that I've never dealt with any of this stuff before. How do I find out what firmware I have? Also, I mainly watch sports on this TV and hope to get a PS3 at some point soon. My question....are the Movie picture settings posted at the beginning of this thread the best for watching sports as well?

Thanks in advance for any help.
post #3021 of 3237
Go to the User Menu - Setup - SW Upgrade Then press the "info" button on the remote. It should say something like MODULE: T-AMBAUSC-xxxx.
The xxxx will be your firmware version.
post #3022 of 3237
Anyone know where i can download the frimware 1008.1 for the LN32A550??? because in the official samsung site there is not aviable
post #3023 of 3237
You're not gonna find 1008.1 anywhere. Samsung can't even tell me why there are different firmwares on the A550. Mine has 1009.2 after a mainboard swap.
post #3024 of 3237
but.. the people where get the new firmware? i see a lot of ppl using 1008.1 in theirs A550
post #3025 of 3237
Hello all,

I have updated my settings for those of you with firmware 1008 who want to try them out.

My LN46A550 hooked up to a Sony BDP-S550. I used the DVE disc along with a Spyder 2 and HCFR Colorimeter software to come up with the following settings. I used the 75% color bars and compared them to the 75% gray patch to calibrate the primaries and secondaries. I have the Sony player set to output YCbCr 4:2:2, so maybe if others have a player that has this output option, these settings will work too.

This backlight and contrast combination gives 35 foot-lamberts of light output. The main difference here is that I lowered the light output, and adjusting the gains, I lowered them, rather than raising them to get the right color temp. I think this made a difference in overall color output too. I have included HCFR graphs to show the numbers. The delta Es aren't terribly impressive, but I am very pleased with the picture now.

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 94
Brightness: 44
Sharpness: 2
Color: 46
Tint: G51/R49

Black Adjust: off
Dynamic Contrast: off
Gamma: -3 (yes negative 3)

Color Space: Custom
Red: 35/1/0
Green: 47/46/0
Blue: 0/9/56
Yellow: 48/45/0
Cyan: 42/46/50
Magenta: 34/12/54

White Balance:
Red - offset: 31
Green - offset: 27
Blue - offset: 21
Red - gain: 14
Green - gain: 20
Blue - gain: 25

Flesh: 0
Edge enhancement: off
xvYCC: off

Picture Options:
Colortone: Warm2
size: Just Scan
Digital NR: off
DNIe: off (grayed out)
HDMI Black Level: normal (grayed out)
Flim Mode: off (grayed out)
Blue only: off

Those of you with firmware 1008, give these a try and let me know what you think!

Cheers,
Mark
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post #3026 of 3237
Sony failed me yet again (suprise,suprise) and my PS3 broke. So I got a VGA cable for the 360 and have to calibrate all this stuff again. Would the HDMI settting I had been using for the PS3 be good with the 360? I never really managed to get the 360 set up properly through component nor did I really care since I was getting everything on the PS3,oops.

Turns out I don't even have a lot of those options through VGA. I thought I'd have at least some of them besides white blanace.
post #3027 of 3237
>_>.. WHERE the ppl get the firmware 1008.1? :S i have the 1006.1 with LN32A550
post #3028 of 3237
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Originally Posted by Dymblos View Post

>_>.. WHERE the ppl get the firmware 1008.1? :S i have the 1006.1 with LN32A550

Anything higher than 1006 came pre-installed with a new TV. Samsung has not made anything higher than 1006 available for download.
post #3029 of 3237
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Originally Posted by Vegaz View Post

Sony failed me yet again (suprise,suprise) and my PS3 broke. So I got a VGA cable for the 360 and have to calibrate all this stuff again. Would the HDMI settting I had been using for the PS3 be good with the 360? I never really managed to get the 360 set up properly through component nor did I really care since I was getting everything on the PS3,oops.

Turns out I don't even have a lot of those options through VGA. I thought I'd have at least some of them besides white blanace.

VGA is full bandwidth unencoded RGB, so any adjustments associated with the color decoding (the process of recovering RGB from an encoded video source - composite, s-video, component and YPbPr HDMI are all encoded color) have no meaning and are not required. Your computer monitor doesnt have color or tint controls... does it?
post #3030 of 3237
jcalabria, any new settings work in progress?
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