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post #1651 of 2020
Okay episode tonight. Nothing great or exciting happened except for Jonas dying in a car explosion. Next weeks preview looks good.
post #1652 of 2020
I agree about the white spots in dark scenes. Wife and I noticed this badly starting last week. I don't know what the deal is but FOX here atleast has looked noticeable worse the past few weeks, especially 24.
post #1653 of 2020
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

Okay episode tonight. Nothing great or exciting happened except for Jonas dying in a car explosion. Next weeks preview looks good.

I thought this was the first boring episode of the season. The Tony situation is this season's nuke drop. There's a lack of imminence now and no sense of urgency.

The Jonas thing I saw coming instantly. The marshall was standing just the right distance away in frame to not get blown up with the car.

I was also trying to figure out if it was intentional that the bank transfer button for the hit was labeled "execute" or if it was just a funny coincidence.
post #1654 of 2020
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Originally Posted by Darth Indy View Post

I agree about the white spots in dark scenes. Wife and I noticed this badly starting last week. I don't know what the deal is but FOX here atleast has looked noticeable worse the past few weeks, especially 24.

Nothing on my TV in Kansas City. I went back and tried to find what "white spots" people are referring to, nothing shown...

Agreed - a little boring this week.

Mike
post #1655 of 2020
Rather slow episode. Nothing much seemed to develope except for the explosion. Other then that, pretty much a filler episode.
post #1656 of 2020
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Originally Posted by CycloneMike View Post

Nothing on my TV in Kansas City. I went back and tried to find what "white spots" people are referring to, nothing shown...

Agreed - a little boring this week.

Mike

The white grain/noise was prominently visible in several dark scenes - too many places reporting for it to be isolated station issues.

24 is one of several shows that shoots in mostly ambient lighting conditions to convey a sense of realism, so scene-to-scene changes in PQ are there by design and are to be expected... grainy dark scenes, green shots with indoor fluorescents, etc. Somehow, though, I think the extra grain in last night's episode was an added digital "enhancement" to crank up the sense of drama in an otherwise not too dramatic episode.
post #1657 of 2020
I saw none of the "white spots" as shown OTA in Denver.
post #1658 of 2020
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

I saw none of thie "white spots" as shown OTA in Denver.

I wouldn't necessarily call it white "spots"... it was more like a light version of the dark grain they add to indicate flashback scenes in "CSI:Miami". It was used 2-3 times that I noticed but never there for very long. I wouldn't necessarily call it subtle but it wasn't as "in your face" as the CSI flashback grain is, either.
post #1659 of 2020
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

24 is one of several shows that shoots in mostly ambient lighting conditions to convey a sense of realism, so scene-to-scene changes in PQ are there by design and are to be expected... grainy dark scenes, green shots with indoor fluorescents, etc. Somehow, though, I think the extra grain in last night's episode was an added digital "enhancement" to crank up the sense of drama in an otherwise not too dramatic episode.

Some were in the same scene. I can't recall the exact individuals in the particular scenes, but one camera would have horrendous grain, they then switched to another camera and the picture had perfect clarity. This kind of thing happened several times last night. I could understand it if the entire scene were shot that way, but that wasn't what was happening.
post #1660 of 2020
Definitely a relatively boring episode.

I think this season really slowed down with the decision to keep Jack stuck playing QB at FBI for the better part of 6 hours or so now.
post #1661 of 2020
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Some were in the same scene. I can't recall the exact individuals in the particular scenes, but one camera would have horrendous grain, they then switched to another camera and the picture had perfect clarity. This kind of thing happened several times last night. I could understand it if the entire scene were shot that way, but that wasn't what was happening.

Thats what I was referring to somewhat about it being articially enhanced... if it was just normal low light grain it would have been more consistent, but somebody was inconsistent with the post production enhancements. It also would have been more consisten if it was a transmission problem.
post #1662 of 2020
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The Jonas thing I saw coming instantly..

It was obvious (to me) that she was going to have him killed from the moment she fought the President over the protection order.

And then she too, would be thrown into the physiological pit struggling with right and wrong, just as all of the other characters have this season.
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I was also trying to figure out if it was intentional that the bank transfer button for the hit was labeled "execute" or if it was just a funny coincidence

That was so jarring. I wonder if the intern/PA, just out of film school, came up with that visual gem?
post #1663 of 2020
I saw no white noise - must be a local issue.

This was a slow, plodding episode, with more traditional drama, which every now and then is welcome to me in order to set the stage for action in the future.

I didn't see this mentioned previously before posting this. If someone did, I apologize now.

The hit man Olivia was going to hire was not the bomber. It was Agent Pierce.

And no that is not a spoiler. That is my own guess since she casually asked him to do so, then apologized. He took it upon himself to get it done. After the bombing he asked if everything was all right and they showed him loitering in the hall when she was whispering on the phone.
post #1664 of 2020
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Originally Posted by Digger16309 View Post

The hit man Olivia was going to hire was not the bomber. It was Agent Pierce.

And no that is not a spoiler. That is my own guess since she casually asked him to do so, then apologized. He took it upon himself to get it done. After the bombing he asked if everything was all right and they showed him loitering in the hall when she was whispering on the phone.

That thought crossed my mind, but I dismissed it because I could not see Pierce doing that for someone he has only known/worked for only a few hours... but they did make his presence overly prominent during that period. I guess we shall see. Wouldn't be the first time 24 stretched the believability index.
post #1665 of 2020
Absolutely no way Aaron is responsible, if only for the simple fact that Aaron was in the White House and Jonas was blown up at FBI HQ and Aaron wouldn't have deserted Olivia in the middle of his shift to go kill someone.
post #1666 of 2020
The PQ is something I posted about on here recently. It is just not very good! The grain is very, very evident. I recently watched an episode of CSI with plenty of night scenes and the PQ was amazing using the exact same settings - same goes for the NBA playoffs. Both were viewed over DirecTV. The gritty look must be intentional but it looks terrible to me.
post #1667 of 2020
I think it is remarkable how quickly someone was able to wire an FBI or Federal Marshal Service SUV with explosives right outside FBI HQ without being detected. Or did agent Sullivan accidentally check it out of the wrong motor pool?

I don't think this was a relatively boring episode, I think it was a HUGELY boring episode. Jack didn't shoot or torture anyone. Neither did Tony. Not a single shot was fired. Nothing happened, except for Jonas getting blown up.
post #1668 of 2020
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I think it is remarkable how quickly someone was able to wire an FBI or Federal Marshal Service SUV with explosives right outside FBI HQ without being detected. Or did agent Sullivan accidentally check it out of the wrong motor pool?

I don't think this was a relatively boring episode, I think it was a HUGELY boring episode. Jack didn't shoot or torture anyone. Neither did Tony. Not a single shot was fired. Nothing happened, except for Jonas getting blown up.

It was absolutely the slowest episode of '24' I can remember. I was falling asleep through more than half of it. The forced taping of the Muslim guy was sad to watch and they keep hitting it over the head that he's a good, proud American. Can we give Jack Kim's stem cells now and see him be Jack Bauer for a few episodes? C'mon.

..and Ok, Jonas is dead. Who cares at this point? Let's not go down this Olivia hit man plot line. It's irrelevant.
post #1669 of 2020
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Originally Posted by mikeny View Post

. Can we give Jack Kim's stem cells now see him Jack Bauer for a few episodes? C'mon.

..and Ok, Jonas is dead. Who cares at this point? Let's not go down this Olivia hit man plot line. It's irrelevant.

Too funny I was thinking the same thingthe stem cells are next--- Jack lives, his daughter tragically diesJack tortures himself cutting off one finger at a time, until he finally has to beat himself silly with a stump.
post #1670 of 2020
I also think that Aaron was directly or indirectly involved in killing Jonas. They kept focusing in on his face when talking about killing Hodges, and then after it was done.

He is an old, retired Secret Service guy that was called into action during a crisis, and was sick and tired of seeing these bad guys keep get off. Just my guess. Kind of a payback for having worked for the evil President Logan.
post #1671 of 2020
I'm betting the last 3 episodes will be sensational!
post #1672 of 2020
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Originally Posted by rsambuca View Post

I also think that Aaron was directly or indirectly involved in killing Jonas. They kept focusing in on his face when talking about killing Hodges, and then after it was done.

He is an old, retired Secret Service guy that was called into action during a crisis, and was sick and tired of seeing these bad guys keep get off. Just my guess. Kind of a payback for having worked for the evil President Logan.

I think he suspects Olivia of having something to do with it. Not that he has something to do with it himself.

Aaron is the only character besides Jack to be in every season so far. He's the purest character on the show.

I'd be gutted if they made him a participant in an assassination.
post #1673 of 2020
Aaron has integrity, a word that isn’t in the vocabulary of that whiny, spoiled rotten Olivia. He’s also extremely loyal, not to Olivia, but to the President and the country. Aaron setting up Jonas to be killed isn’t in the realm of possibilities and would be totally out of character for the person we’ve come to respect through the years. That just didn’t happen, IMO.

Olivia was estranged from the family at the beginning of the season and I see it coming full circle when this season finishes. It’s also probable that Aaron will be the one to help bring her down. When Olivia said she’d like Jonas dead, I took Aaron’s look and his subsequent expressions as one of disgust and suspicion (even tho he is expressionless, just knowing his character, that’s what I thought was going through his mind), and would like nothing better than to beat that immature brats butt. In any case, there isn’t any doubt in my mind the b*tch is going down.
post #1674 of 2020
Aaron is good. He did not participate in the Jonas murder.

JG once again sniveling about her nonsense. I'm amazed she agreed to be on this show, given that her own personal beliefs are being exposed as idiocy, repeatedly. Nice touch though for Jack to agree with her philosophically, then ask her if she had a better idea. Of course, she didn't.
post #1675 of 2020
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Originally Posted by IAM4UK View Post

JG once again sniveling about her nonsense. I'm amazed she agreed to be on this show, given that her own personal beliefs are being exposed as idiocy, repeatedly. Nice touch though for Jack to agree with her philosophically, then ask her if she had a better idea. Of course, she didn't.

Uh...she doesn’t write her own lines. Its a TV show, not reality.
post #1676 of 2020
Only a few more episodes and I am curious to know if we will get to find out these 9 other bad guys/gals from the meeting? Past seasons have always ended with leaving the imagination to the viewers.

My other thought was, how come there is never a medical staff following Jack when he goes out on a mission. He always seem to yell "Get Medic In Here NOWWWW."
post #1677 of 2020
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Uh...she doesn’t write her own lines. Its a TV show, not reality.


Very true - doubt Garafolo is ad-libbing. Her character's mode of thought does mirror her real, rather lefty (if you wanna call it that) mindset, though. I think that was intentional casting on Surnow & Co's part. Whether JG bugs you or not, she is one actress who can keep up w/ "Chloe" on the "irritated bitch" meter.

During the recent discussions in the media regarding US stance on torture, I have joked (and not a generally joke-y subject) that the only American that should have a free pass regarding "enhanced interrgation" techniques is Jack Bauer. 'Cuz when Jack does it, it's always for the good of the county & the victim always has it coming!

Of course, this is only in TV fantasy land....

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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Aaron has integrity, a word that isn’t in the vocabulary of that whiny, spoiled rotten Olivia. He’s also extremely loyal, not to Olivia, but to the President and the country. Aaron setting up Jonas to be killed isn’t in the realm of possibilities and would be totally out of character for the person we’ve come to respect through the years. That just didn’t happen, IMO

Similar arguments could have been made regarding "evil" Tony Almeida, although his personal motivation for his actions could be seen as deeper seeded than anything Aaron might be feeling.
post #1678 of 2020
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JG once again sniveling about her nonsense. I'm amazed she agreed to be on this show

I'm amazed that anyone would post such nonsense.
post #1679 of 2020
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

Aaron is the only character besides Jack to be in every season so far. He's the purest character on the show.

Chloe has been in every season as well.

Regarding the carbomb - it was too soon after Olivia's conversation with the hitman for him to have done it, and I agree Aaron wouldn't do it either. I think it was the other members of the evil conference call group who arranged it.
post #1680 of 2020
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Originally Posted by mikeny View Post

..and Ok, Jonas is dead. Who cares at this point? Let's not go down this Olivia hit man plot line. It's irrelevant.

Hardly irrelevant as it was Olivia's call to (the ex-ER doc) that obviously spilled the beans as to Jonas' condition and location - and this will no doubt lead Jack to finding out just who's part of the "bigger" anti-gov't conspiracy.
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