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post #1771 of 2021
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I am upset that they went the whole, he is captured again but Jack will let him escape to save someone. Bored with that whole story/twist, it really has gotten old. I am also fed up with the whole Olivia story line, she is not believable in that roll/position and I find that story line boring.

I did enjoy the Chloe/Janice momments, pretty good stuff.

"I am not the one you should look to for validation". We should give her credit. Nice job Janice.
post #1772 of 2021
Count me among the Metro complainers. Not only is there no "Washington Center" but there is no Woodward Station in Adams Morgan (or anywhere else) where he supposedly boarded. They also don't have ticket booths staffed by live people anything like the one he tried to get help from. The pylon in front of the station appeared realistic, but that's it.

I also agree that setting the weapon to go off at 5:30am instead of the middle of rush hour seems like pretty poor planning as well. Since the Metro doesn't open until 5:00, and I think trains start in the suburbs, he likely got on the first train, which would have been almost empty. And why did everyone get off (and no one else get on) at a hub?
post #1773 of 2021
I have to agree with everyone here. I am sure that for most of us that follow 24 since the begining, we can see that the writers are using the same scripts/plots/twists and not really expanding or being more creative with plots/twists. I love 24 and don't want to see it ends so can we bring in new/creative writers for 24? Or as in 24, can we get write off some of these writers? Ooppss I think Jack is one of them.
post #1774 of 2021
I think you guys have immediate "Gut reactions" to everything, instead of letting the story arch take its course, the mo for "24" is that the episode or two before the finale is always a set up for what eventually happens.

For instance, nobody can tell me with a straight face the knew the Chinese were gonna kidnap Jack at the end of season 5.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kim summoned her "Bauer Powers" and kicked all the baddies asses at the airport, in fact now that I think about it, that would be pretty cool.
post #1775 of 2021
Really, what is left for the finale:

1. What happens to Jack? He will live to come back another day.

2. What happens to Tony? Doesn't matter. He can be dead or alive but still come back or not.

3. Who are the "real" bad guys? We know they are US corps. unless suddenly Russia or some other nation turns up as controlling them.

4. What happens to Olivia? Aaron has already asssured her downfall.

5. What happens to the President? Hopefully, she will lose the next election since all she can do is decide that "I WANT (fill in the blank) now!!."

6. Will Ethan Kanin turn out to be one of the bad guys? I think so.

7. What happens to Kim? She will, of course, turn out to save Jack, and in the biggest shocker I can think of die in the process.

All in all, next week's two hours should be called a "coda" unless they pull another gotcha and introduce a brand new "threat" that hasn't even been hinted at as of yet.

fafner
post #1776 of 2021
Although it makes very little sense that the Big Bad Guys(TM) could have just the right people in just the right places at just the right times, it does give a sense of foreboding that this organization is so pervasive and effective. Reminds me of the Quantum organization menacing MI-6 in the Bond reboot.

Kim threatened by another cougar...very funny.
post #1777 of 2021
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post



I thought the writing this season was outstanding until Tony killed Larry.

Couldn't agree more.

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That whole airport thing was so predictable, just like Jack jumping in with Tony at the end. Just a few hours earlier nothing was predictable, that's what is upsetting to me.

Exactly.

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I did enjoy the Chloe/Janice momments, pretty good stuff.

Yes, those were a few good moments from this episode.
post #1778 of 2021
That's the agent watching Kim could go down so easily seeing how he had some size on him compared to the bad guy plus defensive training? How hard of a fight did he put up? I know we are supposed to believe but at least make it convincing.
post #1779 of 2021
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Originally Posted by pedrojunkie View Post

Funny, I always thought the least interesting and most overused plot twist was Kim being kidnapped...

yeah, that was a bit much for me. How did they know Jack would even be ALIVE at this point?
post #1780 of 2021
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How did the bad guys know Kim was in town when Jack didn't know it until they had their meeting approximately 4 hours ago?

Well, they did set this up by letting Tony know that Kim had been in to see Jack. Still a groaner, though.
post #1781 of 2021
The preposterous presence of Mr. and Mrs. Bad Guy at the airport was certainly groan worthy but I thought the magical appearance of the transit cop bad guy who made Jibraan put his ear piece back in was equally silly. That kind of stuff usually doesn't bother me much because silliness is 24's stock in trade. Still, it seemed to me that this week's episode was decidedly weaker than most of what we have seen this season.
post #1782 of 2021
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

The preposterous presence of Mr. and Mrs. Bad Guy at the airport was certainly groan worthy but I thought the magical appearance of the transit cop bad guy who made Jibraan put his ear piece back in was equally silly.

That didn't bother me at all. It made sense to have someone on hand to control Jibraan when they first dropped him off at the station. they figured he's make a try and were ready for it.
post #1783 of 2021
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

The preposterous presence of Mr. and Mrs. Bad Guy at the airport was certainly groan worthy but I thought the magical appearance of the transit cop bad guy who made Jibraan put his ear piece back in was equally silly. That kind of stuff usually doesn't bother me much because silliness is 24's stock in trade. Still, it seemed to me that this week's episode was decidedly weaker than most of what we have seen this season.

You want to talk about preposterous, what about the existence of a secret Level 5 biohazard facility within walking distance of the Metro, and the ability of a woman wearing an obvious disguise to leave an unattended bag in the DC subway system on a day of heightened alert due to multiple terrorist attacks, including an invasion of the White House.
post #1784 of 2021
You had to love the token white guy who gave Jibraan the suspicious eye as he left the train. For a minute I thought he was another one of them' keeping an eye out, but then I said, nah, token.
post #1785 of 2021
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

You had to love the token white guy who gave Jibraan the suspicious eye as he left the train. For a minute I thought he was another one of them' keeping an eye out, but then I said, nah, token.

I think he WAS a bad guy watching him.

fafner
post #1786 of 2021
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Originally Posted by fafner View Post

I think he WAS a bad guy watching him.

fafner

Nah, why would he have ratted him out then? Police involvement was not something he would have wanted.
post #1787 of 2021
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Originally Posted by fafner View Post

I think he WAS a bad guy watching him.

fafner

Then why didn’t he stop Jibraan from removing the device from the subway?
post #1788 of 2021
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Originally Posted by fafner View Post

I think he WAS a bad guy watching him.

Definitely not. We were meant to think that he may be bad, but the fact that he talked to the cop proved that he wasn't.
post #1789 of 2021
I know this is a nit I'm picking, but when they tested the canister device, the gas was released by the timer mechanism through a ring of nozzles around the neck of the canister. However, when Jack threw it into the gas tight compartment of the emergency vehicle, it exploded and broke open. Seems like they wanted more effect than just the gas going out the nozzles, but didn't bother to change the initial setup earlier in the show.
post #1790 of 2021
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Originally Posted by Rod Rebello View Post

I know this is a nit I'm picking, but when they tested the canister device, the gas was released by the timer mechanism through a ring of nozzles around the neck of the canister. However, when Jack threw it into the gas tight compartment of the emergency vehicle, it exploded and broke open. Seems like they wanted more effect than just the gas going out the nozzles, but didn't bother to change the initial setup earlier in the show.

I would assume the impact of the throw damaged the device and when the timer went to zero and the mechanism activated to open the discharge ports the stress on the damaged part caused the container to fail.

Actually, one of the more realistic "concepts" in the show.
post #1791 of 2021
I thought the testing of the canister was a pretty cool scene, but when Jack through it into the containment area of the mobile HazMat unit, it blowed-up-real-good. That was inconsistent.

But enough with the nitpicking...

Who thinks Jack will kill Tony?
post #1792 of 2021
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

The preposterous presence of Mr. and Mrs. Bad Guy at the airport was certainly groan worthy but I thought the magical appearance of the transit cop bad guy who made Jibraan put his ear piece back in was equally silly. That kind of stuff usually doesn't bother me much because silliness is 24's stock in trade. Still, it seemed to me that this week's episode was decidedly weaker than most of what we have seen this season.

Agreed on both and what a lousy way to use Kim.

Also I will plead guilty to mis-judging Agent Pierce. I got that very wrong.
post #1793 of 2021
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

That's the agent watching Kim could go down so easily seeing how he had some size on him compared to the bad guy plus defensive training? How hard of a fight did he put up? I know we are supposed to believe but at least make it convincing.

But at least it was believable that the bathroom of a busy airport was COMPLETELY EMPTY except for those two.
post #1794 of 2021
It's hard to pull a fast one on Agent Pierce. Olivia sure chose the wrong guy to provide security if she wanted to do covert things. Pierce is sharp and Olivia is toast.
post #1795 of 2021
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post


I did enjoy the Chloe/Janice momments, pretty good stuff.

Who would have guessed that two actors from "The Larry Sanders Show" would be side-by-side in a tense scene from the thriller "24"?
post #1796 of 2021
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Originally Posted by Jeremy W View Post

Definitely not. We were meant to think that he may be bad, but the fact that he talked to the cop proved that he wasn't.

Ooops....you are right.

fafner
post #1797 of 2021
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Originally Posted by Rod Rebello View Post

I know this is a nit I'm picking, but when they tested the canister device, the gas was released by the timer mechanism through a ring of nozzles around the neck of the canister. However, when Jack threw it into the gas tight compartment of the emergency vehicle, it exploded and broke open. Seems like they wanted more effect than just the gas going out the nozzles, but didn't bother to change the initial setup earlier in the show.

Nah. The ring of nozzles was for just what they showed...to test the device. It was always also meant to explode when the timer reached zero. Two mechanisms for two entirely different purposes.

fafner
post #1798 of 2021
You guys are misinterpreting the portrayal of the white business guy on the train. He was there to be suspicious of the terrorist-looking foreigner behaving nervously. Then when he left the train he ran to grab the nearest cop.
post #1799 of 2021
The big thing I really wish the writers would have Jack realize is there's got to be a pad of paper and a pen somewhere on the van on which he could write a note explaining exactly what's going on to Renee.

(Tony doesn't know what's up, and he's not going to break his grimace to loudly shout "Jack, what are you writing in that note?")

Renee could then text message Chloe letting her not only know what's going on but starting the trace on the phone connection Bad Girl is using as she's the one that demanded the connection stay open.

(What happens if the van drives through a tunnel? Does Jack go ballistic and shoot the driver before they lose the cell phone signal?)

In all seriousness, if they really want Tony dead why don't they just make Jack kill him now without all the stupid cloak and dagger stuff?

(Because there's two more hours to fill, that's why. )
post #1800 of 2021
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

The big thing I really wish the writers would have Jack realize is there's got to be a pad of paper and a pen somewhere on the van on which he could write a note explaining exactly what's going on to Renee.

(Tony doesn't know what's up, and he's not going to break his grimace to loudly shout "Jack, what are you writing in that note?")

Tony knows exactly what's up... it's his plan (Jack told Tony that Kim was in town).
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