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Ok, I am all for over-building, but what what the rational for overbuilding the gable trusses? Beefy is one thing but these things could hold 4 times the load of the rest of the roof.
post #92 of 116
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Ok, I am all for over-building, but what what the rational for overbuilding the gable trusses? Beefy is one thing but these things could hold 4 times the load of the rest of the roof.

Pick 2!

- I wanted to make sure I had plenty of wood to attach the OSB.
- I wanted to make sure I had plenty of wood to attach the siding.
- I was worried about the OSB rattling.
- I had extra wood.
- I had extra nails.
- I had extra time.
- I was bored.
- Why not?
- Because that is what I do.
- It looks cool to see the gable studs directly over the wall studs.


Do you see a trend yet? That's right, no logical rational whatsoever!
post #93 of 116
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Well I got the ramp finished up. Ended up redoing all the decking on it, turning a few boards over. I was not happy with how it turned out before but it is much better now!

I think I have figured out a way to do my soffits, but it may be a while before I can get to it. My daughter's b-day is coming up, I'm heading to the Quail Hollow Championship for a day, we are hoping to go to an air show, Mother's day and I have to do some traveling for work. At least I'm going to be busy!
post #94 of 116
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Well, I had hoped to have some soffits up on the shed by now, but there is another bird nest ( I think some sort of wren) in the shed and I don't have the heart to kick momma out a second time, especially this far into spring. We already have 5 Bluebird babies in the chimney of my daughter's playset. Once the wren moves out I'm closing those things up. I've figured out a way to do it, but am still looking at other options just in case I find something better.

I did get the inside partially organized. All the tools are now hanging on the back wall instead of sitting in one of the corners. Spreader is hung out of the way. I also installed some gate latches to the ramp to hold the doors open.

In other news I have started building an unRAID server! I'm using an older PC that started life as a photo PC, then got moved to a HTPC and is now a server. I'm starting out small, using the free license to get my feet wet. In case anyone is interested the specs are:

MSI K8NGM2-FID mobo
2GB DDR400 RAM
AMD Athlon 3000+ (single core, 1.8GHz)
WD 1.5TB for Parity
WD 1.5TB for DATA
WD 500GB for DATA

Array is building as we speak!
post #95 of 116
Sweet!!! More shed talk...

Maybe some photos will inspire me... Not of the crazy birds but the organization. Very kind of you to let the birds live. I have two nests under my deck right now as well.

As for the server thingy... just went way over my head.
post #96 of 116
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Sweet!!! More shed talk...

Maybe some photos will inspire me... Not of the crazy birds but the organization. Very kind of you to let the birds live. I have two nests under my deck right now as well.

As for the server thingy... just went way over my head.

I'll see what I can do about some photos.
post #97 of 116
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OK, So I have started working on this unRAID server and I've got some questions after doing some reading. I think I needed to ask all these BEFORE starting. Ugh!

1. Was it a bad idea to setup the parity drive before I moved everything over to the data drives? It seems like there is a performance issue with the parity drive setup when transferring large amounts of data to the server. I've got probably 1TB of stuff to move.
2. Are shares like "Libraries" in Win 7? In essence do I need to setup a "Movie" share, "Pictures" share, etc?
3. Should I be running the pre-clear script on new drives?
4. Anything else I should know as a noob?
post #98 of 116
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OK, So I have started working on this unRAID server and I've got some questions after doing some reading. I think I needed to ask all these BEFORE starting. Ugh!

From what I've read up:

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1. Was it a bad idea to setup the parity drive before I moved everything over to the data drives? It seems like there is a performance issue with the parity drive setup when transferring large amounts of data to the server. I've got probably 1TB of stuff to move.

Probably. But I think this is less of an issue with newer versions of unRaid (like 4.5.3). In the newer versions write with parity on is much faster. I think there's a way to copy by turning off the parity drive.

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2. Are shares like "Libraries" in Win 7? In essence do I need to setup a "Movie" share, "Pictures" share, etc?

I guess that's a way to look at it. I look at shares as logical groupings of data that span multiple hard drives. Here's how LimeTech describes shares.

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3. Should I be running the pre-clear script on new drives?

I think so, but only as a testing mechanism I believe.

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4. Anything else I should know as a noob?

You're farther than me, so I can't answer this one.
post #99 of 116
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From what I've read up:



Probably. But I think this is less of an issue with newer versions of unRaid (like 4.5.3). In the newer versions write with parity on is much faster. I think there's a way to copy by turning off the parity drive.

That would be nice! I have 4.5.4 so I'll try it as is and see how things go.

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I guess that's a way to look at it. I look at shares as logical groupings of data that span multiple hard drives. Here's how LimeTech describes shares.

Why couldn't I find that earlier? There documentation leaves a little to be desired!
Anyway, OK that makes sense. So I don't have to create the shares, unRAID does it automatically based on the top level folder. But that means I have to copy files directly to a certain disc, right? Not a big deal since I only have the one data drive in there now, but if I want the data to span multiple drives I need to set up the share before moving the data or can I change the share settings after it is created and any new data will be stored across multiple drives?


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I think so, but only as a testing mechanism I believe.

One of the drives came out of a PC and was working fine, the other is brand new. Guess I'll do that for any new drives that get used.


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You're farther than me, so I can't answer this one.

Thanks for the help Ed!
post #100 of 116
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Why couldn't I find that earlier? There documentation leaves a little to be desired!
Anyway, OK that makes sense. So I don't have to create the shares, unRAID does it automatically based on the top level folder. But that means I have to copy files directly to a certain disc, right? Not a big deal since I only have the one data drive in there now, but if I want the data to span multiple drives I need to set up the share before moving the data or can I change the share settings after it is created and any new data will be stored across multiple drives?

You don't have to copy to a specific disk (although you can). You just copy to the share name and unRaid will decide what disk it writes to (based on user settings).

I would think you can change share names and such at any time. Although it might be slower than having them up front.
post #101 of 116
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You don't have to copy to a specific disk (although you can). You just copy to the share name and unRaid will decide what disk it writes to (based on user settings).

I would think you can change share names and such at any time. Although it might be slower than having them up front.

Right, so I do need to set them up prior to copying data to the drives. That makes more sense. I'll try it out tonight with just a few files and see how it goes before trying the whole enchilada!
post #102 of 116
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Got the server home and hooked up. Added a share called "Test" just to throw some files to it. Sent about 9GB of stuff that seems to be moving at 7-8 MB/sec. How is that for speed? Both the server and the PC have gigabit LAN, but they are connected via a 10/100 router. I'm not too concerned with speed, as long as that speed is enough to stream files to my Media Portal HTPC I'm good, but if I need to I guess I'll start looking at some gigabit stuff.

OK, tried a transfer from the HTPC to the server and I'm getting about 1MB/sec. Ugh! This is through 2 routers, both 10/100s. That won't cut it! Any ideas on what to check to speed this up?
post #103 of 116
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Got the server home and hooked up. Added a share called "Test" just to throw some files to it. Sent about 9GB of stuff that seems to be moving at 7-8 MB/sec. How is that for speed? Both the server and the PC have gigabit LAN, but they are connected via a 10/100 router. I'm not too concerned with speed, as long as that speed is enough to stream files to my Media Portal HTPC I'm good, but if I need to I guess I'll start looking at some gigabit stuff.

OK, tried a transfer from the HTPC to the server and I'm getting about 1MB/sec. Ugh! This is through 2 routers, both 10/100s. That won't cut it! Any ideas on what to check to speed this up?

How are you copying the files? Using Windows copy can be slow. There are other programs out there for copying (like FileZilla and Shawn had another).

Also, even if the server and PC have gigabit adaptors, if you're connecting them through a 10/100 device your stuck at that speed. A gigabit switch between the two would make the connection faster.

At some point you may want to ask questions at the LimeTech forums or even in the UnRaid thread here on AVS (because I'm no expert! )
post #104 of 116
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How are you copying the files? Using Windows copy can be slow. There are other programs out there for copying (like FileZilla and Shawn had another).

Just copy and paste. I rebooted the HTPC and my speed went back up to around 10MB/sec. I can live with that for now!

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Also, even if the server and PC have gigabit adaptors, if you're connecting them through a 10/100 device your stuck at that speed. A gigabit switch between the two would make the connection faster.

Of course! You are always limited by your slowest device. I have to replace two routers, so I'll do that at some point, but for now it looks like things might be OK.

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At some point you may want to ask questions at the LimeTech forums or even in the UnRaid thread here on AVS (because I'm no expert! )

I get so lost over there! Those guys are so much more advanced. I always thought I was pretty technologically savvy, but they make me feel otherwise! If I get stumped though I will definitely ask!
post #105 of 116
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Yesterday I finished transferring the data off of my second 1.5TB drive that was in my HTPC so last night I took it out of the HTPC and put it in the server. Then I realized that I don't have enough SATA power cables on the PSU. It only has 2 and I need at least 3. So I happened to find some 4 pin molex to 15 pin SATA power adapters and was wondering if there is any problems using these? Do you retain all functions, like SMART and temp readings? I plan on buying a new PSU at some point anyway, but if I could do this for now that would be great.

Also, how much PSU do you really need for an unRAID server? I would say that I can see myself using the plus license and up to 6 drives for quite some time before needing the pro and 20ish drives. I have a Corsair 650TX in my i7 machine that I am thinking about moving over to the server and buying a new modular unit for my i7 machine.
post #106 of 116
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Got the additional 1.5TB drive hooked up last night with a molex to sata power adapter. Worked great so I can keep saving for a new PSU and case. Booted back up and couldn't connect through FF. IP changed! DOH! So I found the new IP, connected to it, then set a static IP. UnRAID wanted to clear the new drive, so I let that run last night. This morning I started the formatting process. Hope to have stuff moved to it later tonight.

In other news, my wife and I booked a 5 night cruise to Bermuda in a couple weeks!
post #107 of 116
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Got the additional 1.5TB drive hooked up last night with a molex to sata power adapter.

oooooooo... awwwwwww....

Oh what the #@$% am I talking about. I your might as well be speaking greek. (though that may be the Captain talkin... Captain and diet that is)

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In other news, my wife and I booked a 5 night cruise to Bermuda in a couple weeks!

Now there you go... Sounds like fun. I have a trip scheduled to Key West in October but it all may be an oil slick by then anyway.

still waiting on those shed pics...
post #108 of 116
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oooooooo... awwwwwww....

Oh what the #@$% am I talking about. I your might as well be speaking greek. (though that may be the Captain talkin... Captain and diet that is)

LOL!


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Now there you go... Sounds like fun. I have a trip scheduled to Key West in October but it all may be an oil slick by then anyway.

That is one of the reasons we decided to not head to Florida. It is been 8 year since our last cruise and just seemed like a good time to go again!

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still waiting on those shed pics...

Didn't have time for pics this weekend. Spent Saturday with the kids so my wife could clean house and start getting stuff ready for our trip. Sunday I put up a retractable screen door on the back door and then went over to the in-laws for some BBQ and swimming.
post #109 of 116
love the thread. full of photos that does extremely help when trying to explain something. I posted some in my thread. If you get a moment please review then advise.

Thanks Mike

Chuck
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Sunday I put up a retractable screen door on the back door and then went over to the in-laws for some BBQ and swimming.

You done swimming yet or what?????? Pics!
post #111 of 116
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Hey all, long time no see!

Got an unRAID question for you guys. I have 3 disks, 2 1.5TB and one 500GB. So one 1.5TB for parity and the other two for storage. For some reason unRAID will not write to the 1.5TB drive anymore. It has about 900GB of free space and the 500GB drive is now full. Any ideas?
post #112 of 116
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Hey all, long time no see!

Got an unRAID question for you guys. I have 3 disks, 2 1.5TB and one 500GB. So one 1.5TB for parity and the other two for storage. For some reason unRAID will not write to the 1.5TB drive anymore. It has about 900GB of free space and the 500GB drive is now full. Any ideas?

Ya I got some ideas:

1. Take some pictures of the shed.
2. Post some pictures of the shed.
3. Opps... I'm out... someone else going to have to help out with the server thingy.
post #113 of 116
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Ya I got some ideas:

1. Take some pictures of the shed.
2. Post some pictures of the shed.
3. Opps... I'm out... someone else going to have to help out with the server thingy.

Honestly, the shed looks the same. I've done nothing with the soffets yet, and the inside is still messy as I haven't gone through it. Now that cooler weather is here I plan to try and get them done soon, but money is really tight right now.

On a HT note I am borrowing an Emotiva Ultra Sub 12 from my FIL. He bought one while waiting for his Velodyne to get repaired. He prefers the Velodyne to the Emotiva, but the Emotiva flat out smokes my Eosone RSP-10. It was like going from no sub to having a great sub.
post #114 of 116
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Hey all, long time no see!

Got an unRAID question for you guys. I have 3 disks, 2 1.5TB and one 500GB. So one 1.5TB for parity and the other two for storage. For some reason unRAID will not write to the 1.5TB drive anymore. It has about 900GB of free space and the 500GB drive is now full. Any ideas?

I am not familiar with unRAID, but if it works like other RAID products I know you shouldn't mix different sized disks in a single RAID set. The reason is that the RAID info gets spread evenly over the drives, which means that all the drives in your RAID set will be treated as if they were the smallest drive.
post #115 of 116
That would be my thought. With most RAID schemes, it will default to the smallest drive in the array and treat all of them like that. If you want to use the full 1.5TB, you'll need another drive that size instead of a 500GB drive.

Bryan
post #116 of 116
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This is where unRaid is different. It is similar to JBOD so you can mix and match sizes of drives. Thanks for taking a stab at it though!

My problem is that I need to set a "minimum free" setting on each share so that it will not try to write to that drive unless it has so much space available.
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