Originally Posted by GebLX
I did a little test in regards to the V4100's 24p True Cinema capability and Cinemotion to see if what effects I would get, just to give everyone an idea of what to expect. I used a PS3 for my tests since it has 24p output.
1080/24p off + Cinemotion Auto 1 = Smooth motion, less judder, soap opera effect.
1080/24p off + Cinemotion Auto 2 = Nothing noticeable, natural look, some judder.
1080/24p off + Cinemotion off = Same as 1080p/24p off-Cinemotion Auto 2
1080/24p on + Cinemotion Auto 1 = Occasional stutter, natural look( 1080/24p seems to be overriding Cinemotion Auto 1 because I can't notice any soap opera effects)
1080/24p on + Cinemotion Auto 2 = Same as 1080/24 on-Cinemotion Auto 1
1080/24p on + Cinemotion off = No stuttering/glitching, natural look.
From what I've experienced, it's either one or the other that should be on. If you like the soap opera effect, turn off 1080/24p and turn on Cinemotion Auto 1, if not, turn off Cinemotion and turn on 1080/24p.
Bear with me on the Toshiba part:
In January, 2009 I purchased a Toshiba 40RV525U which is touted as TRUE 1080P with Cinema Mode 24 fps. I subscribe to Dish and have two Dish 722 DVRs. One of the Dish VOD channels is transmitted in 1080P at 24 fps. The 1080P signal bypasses the 1080i setup of the 722. The Dish receiver also does a quick test of the TV to determine if the TV can accept the 1080p 24 fps signal and if not offers it at a lesser resolution. The Toshiba failed each time I tried to view the 1080p movie (Batman). After many phone calls to Toshiba and Dish I ended up with a very competent Platform Manager at Dish.
He called Toshiba engineering and found (Toshiba admitted that the 40RV525U (True 1080p) could not accept a Pure
1080p signal input and it is even stated as such in the manual. The TV can only accept 1080i and then combines the interlaced two 1080i signals and displays it in one pass as 1080p which was the cause of the failed Dish 1080p test.
So back to CompUSA who made calls to Toshiba and found what I was telling them was true. They offered to refund my money or give me a substitute at their cost. I chose the Sony KDL-4150
(I don't know what the 50 means in the 4150) TV based upon my research here at AVS forums for $825. What a great TV. It passes the Dish 1080p 24fps test without any problem and the picture is fantastic. I find no stuttering or soap opera effect. I think I got a great deal and would recommend this TV to anyone at the below $1000 price point which is where is seems to be at this time.
I am going to try your settings that you posted above and see what results I get.
I am not totally knowledgeable about 1080p and did not know about 24fps until this happened to me. Toshiba's TRUE 1080p is false advertising at least on the 40RV525U and it larger cousins. The 40RV525U would play a 1080p Blu-Ray DVD but apparently the HDMI does some hand shaking between the DVD player and the TV that allows the DVD player to feed the TV a signal it will accept.
As an aside my cheap Olevia 537H 720p passed the Dish 1080p test even though it was impossible to display 1080p. The Olevia must have a better scaler than the Toshiba as well.
So, just thought I would post this here as a notice to potential buyers that the Sony KDL-4150 is a great TV. Just because a particular brand claims TRUE 1080p may not be true. Sony, however seems to be true to their word.