2008 Mitsubishi Owners Thread (735/736 and diamond) - Page 5

I paid $1799 for the 65735 at circuit city..I went back today and the A750 was $1899..they exchanged it straight up for the Mitsubshi I was taking back (so they both wound up at to be the same exact price)...And as some people have mentioned, at the home theater website you can get the A750 for $1799 too...Ironically, the 65735 is $1899 right now at the home theater website so it is actually more expensive than the Sammy at some places..Of course, you could prob get the 65735 for less than $1899 at places like tigerdirect if you really looked..The bottom line is that these two TVs hover around the same place-give or take a 100 bucks...My dilemma really comes from the fact that I want the better picture (which seems to be the 65375 from the looks that I got of the two), but I'm having a tough time with getting the Mitsu because some of the customer reviews on the bulbs for last year's models..I think I might just take the Sammy back (I know I am crazy) and wait a few months to make sure the Mitsubishis are not having bulb problems..

Wow. Since you're one of the few people that has had both the Sammie and the Mits, I figured I'd ask. Did you try any Blu-Ray movies on them? Does the Mits have 120Hz, or just the Sammie?

Mits does not mention 120Hz except for the Diamond series (or at least the articles didn't), and those will be a lot more than the A750.

Thanks and good luck with your decision. I'm waiting to make a similar decision, but 73 Mits vs 72A650 Sammie (both bulb).

I saw the 65735 at the local Best Buy and man did it jump out at me. The brightness and blacks were amazing and absolutely blew away last years Sammy LED that was next to it as well as the new A650 (they didn't have the 61A750 out). I was having a tough time deciding on the 2 but i think i am sold on the Mits. Anyone who has a PC Richards in there area, they are sellin git for $1789 and BB or CC should match that price. If you have the 8% AAA coupon for CC that will take care of the tax and then some for some people.

On another note only the new 835 series will have the 120Hz which really isn't a big deal to me. If anything i heard in some posts that can make the image look more fake.

Hey no problem. Yes, I have a PS3 and I must say that both TVs are absolutely amazing in Blu-Ray--especially compared to last year's DLPs..much brighter...In fact, it would have been impossible to make a choice based on what I could see from home. However, I did get the opportunity to see both next to each other at a few stores. I am still in denial with the fact the new Mitsubishi DLPs seem to have slightly (and I emphasize slightly) better pictures than the Sammys. I am actually still not sold on this and I think I might have to do some more comparing to be completely positive. It's funny you mention the 120Hz. According to the specs on the new Samsung DLPs this year, they are 60Hz--it is just that some websites have not updated this yet because they were originally touted as being 120Hz. In fact, I'd have to doublecheck but I think CC has it listed as 60Hz and Best buy has it listed as 120Hz. This shouldn't be much of an issue with DLPs as they are with LCDs. If I'm wrong maybe someone can correct me. Well, keep in touch since we are in the same boat....good luck!

According to the pdf's on samsung's site, the 750's have 120hz:

http://www.samsung.com/us/system/con...7A750_spec.pdf

Thanks, I appreciate the info. I will keep in touch.

The question around 60Hz vs 120Hz is an interesting one and can be confusing.

The TV will show 60Hz on the display, that is actually showing you what the TV is receiving from the source, not how the TV is running. I have a 50A650 and I can confirm that at least the documentation states 120Hz (whether it is in there or not is another story), but I can tell you that my regular DVDs look TONS better than they did on my older DLP. Some of that is just pure PQ, but I think some maybe the refresh rate.

As for whether it matters on DLP, I think it does. At least from my understanding. Here's my shot at why I think so (article from which I paraphrased this is linked below). DLP does not need motion enhancement, because the response rate is in the microseconds, and that prevents motion blur, unlike LCDs which are just getting into the really low milliseconds.

However, the 120HZ is important for dealing with 24fps media. Film is 24fps, while TVs run at 30fps. There is no easy conversion from 24 to 30, so you get gaps and those gaps get filled with, well, fillers. This is the 2:3 (or is it 3:2) pulldown.

120HZ is supposed to get rid of the fillers because 120 is a direct multiple of 24 (24 *5), where as 60 is not.

I don't fully understand the relationship between FPS and HZ, but I do know they are related.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-ente...ter-231872.php

I'm confused about what you are comparing.
Are you comparing a 65" Mits to a 61" Sammy?
If so, you should look at the WD60735 which listed on Amazon for $1400.

If you are talking about the 67" Sammy, then you got a steal for $1900.

[quote=Hipnotiq;13900670]I'm confused about what you are comparing.
Are you comparing a 65" Mits to a 61" Sammy?
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Yup, the 65"Mits to the 61" Sammy..I haven't seen the 61 inch Sammy for less than 1749 unless you decide to not go with LED...and I haven't seen that 65" inch Mitsubishi for much less than that either..maybe I'm not looking hard enough..

After rereading your post I get your point..lol...I will have to work in the 60 inch Mitsubishi as an option...

Amazon has them listed, but says it will take 2 to 3 weeks to ship..

for 2999.99 w/free shipping

BB has the 65735 on sale on their website for $1800; don't know if this means in store will as well. If it does, there are also availabe 10% and 12% off coupons for BB floating around for this weekend. Just wish they were still doing 3 years no interest on TVs. It's 2 years this week.

It causes a flickering in the image. Most annoying. It can't be turned off, at least not with the older 732 series. It's NOT that deep field imager either.

Amazing Mits is still going with 2 RF inputs. I believe that makes them the ONLY major manufacture that has this since it appears Samsung dropped that also.
And what exactly are the compatible components??
AVHDD's are long gone.
After at least three years, they still haven't fixed the "cropped 4x3 issue". 4x3 analog material has a aspect ratio closer to 3.5x3 than 4x3. The sides are narrower than they should be.
Reported worse with Samsung LED models, but Mits has it too.
BTW, this is SEE, NOT SDE as another poster confused the two terms. Screen Door Effect is something related to LCD displays.
No! Every review that has been ever printed has it turned off. Just another gimmick.

I have a feeling this price may come down really soon (as was suggested to me by another poster). The 72" Sammies just dropped to $2299. The price competition shoudl drive the Mits price down.

They raised their price to 1644.00

6th Ave (Amazon) has it listed for 1624.06 w/ free S/H
So I got Tiger Direct to refund me the difference with their "30 day price protection"..
(You can't use Amazon for Circuit City or Best Buy "low price match" )
So net cost to me was $1624 w/ free S/H and No Tax...

Where did you find 10% coupons for BB ?

Got Google?

I got my coupons in the mail.

If you in the Reward Zone, and you give them your email, they periodically email them to you.

I posted this on the 833 thread as well...but wanted to get some input here as well:

I have a question regarding an offer from my retailer.

I've had several problems with my 65833 since I bought it back in October (a couple of replaced engines and some geometry issues). Mits has finally agreed to replace it...but my dealer no longer stocks the 65833. They've offered me a 65736 with a 5 year extended warranty as a replacement...what do you guys think of the offer?

I honestly cannot tell any difference with the 120hz feature on (feeding it a 24p), and that appears to be the biggest thing I'd lose...while gaining the new chip on the 736.

It's only a marketing ploy just as that Dark Detailer is. The LCD Flat Panels have it, so it sounds good here.

BTW, it's a mixed bag with LCDs'. Tests show sometimes it works, but more often it doesn't, only making the image worse.
http://hometheatermag.com/lcds/1207lcd/index13.html

I don't believe it's purely a marketing thing in this case. 120Hz is a multiple of 24 and 60, so you avoid potential 3:2 cadence issues. What they're doing on the LCD panels is an altogether different thing - making up intermediate frames as an attempt to deal with motion blur, etc. Whether the 3:2 conversion is noticable or not to most people is another matter.

I agree...I just can't tell any difference on the 833 with the 120hz on (feeding it 24p).

Based on that, is it a fair deal to give up my 7 month old 65833 for a new 65736 + a 5 year extended warranty...would I be losing out (or gaining) picture quality? I guess the other option would be to demand a 65835, but I don't know when it will be released so I don't know if they'd go for it.

May I inquire as to the actual failure in the 833 that they are not apparently able to fix?

I've had 4 light engines replaced due to either "light" spots on dark scenes or "flickering" (looked like brightness adjusting from higher to lower all the time). Right now those issues seem to be gone, but there are some geometry issues that the tech said he could not fix...so the tech called Mitsubishi and they agreed to replace it.

I just wanted to let anyone interested know that us-appliance.com has a pretty good deal on the 735 and 736. The 735 is $1299 and I just ordered the 736 for $1495. The purchase also includes what they call "white glove delivery" where they unpack and place the TV wherever you want it in your home. And apparently you can get a free Taylormade golf club and some golf balls by sending in proof of purchase and filling out a form.

I'm not sure if this will end up being too good to be true, as the delivery date can be anywhere from 1 to 4 weeks, but the website is part of ABC Warehouse, which I've purchased form before and never had a problem with.

Strictly looking at MSRP, I think you're getting screwed if you accept the WD-65736. Unless I'm wrong:

WD-65833 MSRP = $3999
WD-65835 MSRP = $3399
WD-65736 MSRP = $2399

There's no way the 5 year warranty is worth $1600. Assuming the WD-65833 has never really been right since day 1, the argument that these things depreciate and all just doesn't work in this case. If I were you, I'd push hard for a WD-65835 as it sounds like you could probably live with your current TV for a few months if you had to.

I have 60 735 with sony up converting dvd player which is hooked up through 1.3 hdmi. We were watching a movie today and the screen went black then picture then black and then froze on blue screen and would not display a picture. I hooked up through component cables and worked fine. Am i using the wrong hdmi or does anyone know what could be happening?

Thanks for the heads up. This sounds like a good deal. I have been eying this TV for a while now. It looks like the price is gradually coming down to my trigger point.