2008 Mitsubishi Owners Thread (735/736 and diamond) - Page 76

Can someone please tell me if they are experiencing the same problem.
I have the Mitsu wd60735 for two months now. When I change the color settings to my preference it doesn't save the settings. Like when I turn my Tv back on the color settings go back to default. Am I missing something? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Are you running everything through a receiver? Is the input named avr? Do you have the set on power saver mode?

yes, and yes, the third question it's on fast power on under energy mode

I think you have to name your input to something different - not avr.

i just got my 73736 for like $2100 and i love it and i got a great stand for it from ikea for like $80(i can show you on request) . everything looks fine but i am having one issue with it also and that is it keeps going back to "game" instead of staying on "ps" on hmdi-1(where my ps3 is hooked up). therefore i can't get brilliant setting, i have to go into it and change it everytime back to "ps"? any help available on this?

Just bought a 73735 and it should be here in a few days.
I'm always late, but pour me a drink guys...I'm ready to join the party.

To anyone with the matching stand from Mitsubishi for the 73736/73735: Do you know if there's a max weight load for the glass shelf?

I have mine and put my AV receiver, center channel speaker, Tivo series 3 and a DVD player on that shelf and it seems ok, but that's a lot of weight for a glass shelf with just a supporting bar underneath.

All I did was cut a small block of wood, paint it flat black and prop it underneath the metal bar holding up the glass shelf. Looks great and you can hardly tell there is something there giving support.

Is it this one?

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40105340

I was thinking of picking this up, but it seems a tad low. Lots of room for a big center channel though.

Yep, it's a bug or other flaw in the current Mits sets. I've had the 73835 since August and after reading early on about this I tried renaming my input AVR and sure enough, it would reset EVERY time. Reset the set and rename the input to something else(renamed it back to satelite even though it is an AVR) and it goes back to normal, it holds it's settings just like it should. I don't really understand how Mits could let this happen, especially since some of the sets like my 73835 were originally listing for $4K or so. Yes, there is an easy work around, but you shouldn't HAVE to work around it.

I was thinking about something like that to replace the class all together with 3/4" ply painted black and just routing out the support bar slot for the bottom, but I'd rather not if I don't have to. Although it's glass, it's strong but I'd love to know the max weight they advise for it.

I have a 73735 on its way, and am considering an extended warranty. Any recommendations? Does Mitsubishi offer one? I have a 4 1/2 year old Samsung DLP - I got an extended warranty with it, but never ended up needing it.

On a separate note, is anyone using an Omnimount center channel shelf with their TV?

It is not a bug! I have a 73835 and found out if you complete the AVR setup following the instructions in the manual it works. I have posted several times in this thread explaining how to this (and also a couple of pictures). Basically, I found that when you only name an input AVR you have started the AVR setup which needs to be finished or else the set thinks it sees a new input each time you switch inputs or power on and off.

I think if you have time graciously, you should make a step by step process of how to do this cause all the new people buying the mits tv is having same problem and do not know how to finish setup. I do not have an AVR yet waiting for an onkyo i want to go on sale otherwise i would do a picture guide. but it would be nice so we can for once stop hearing same question from a new person everyday.

Well, I will re-post the pictures I took of my input menus. All anyone needs to do is read their manuals.

I'm interested in what the 73835 owners have to say about their sets. I currently have a Sony KDF-E60A20 with a native 720p. I bought this set back in March of 06' and have only replaced the lamp once. But now I have a BD51 player and I'm hungry for a bigger display at 1080p. When I was researching sets before I bought the Sony I kept coming across reviews that said some DLP's had color wheel problems affecting PQ. Is that still the case with the 73835? Other than replacing the lamp is there any other maintenance involved? I realize SD channels will look poor on a larger screen but how would you describe your HD channels like HDNET and others on your sets?
Thanks

I think the set is great. Of course, moving parts are more prone to failure, so the color wheel and such will be prone to failure over time, but I don't think there's any particular problems. I'd recommend a warranty just to cover yourself... there is no other maintenance I know of other than the lamp that is considered user serviceable, which is why a warranty is important.

On the Omnimount - I've used them for other folk's TVs and if I didn't have a shelf below the TV, I'd use one for my 73736. They work well and can hold a fairly large speaker. Personally, I like the look of the speaker below the TV but again, if there wasn't a place to put it I'd do the Omnimount. If you order one, they (at least used to) come in Silver and Black. We ordered the Silver by accident, but bought a can of flat black and sprayed it.

On the Extended Warranty - Mitsubishi will sell you one but last I checked they are about 2x - 2.5x what you can pay for a 3rd party. See

http://dtvexpress.com/

and

http://www.mountavision.com/extendedwarranties.aspx

There's also at least one thread on AVS talking about Extended Warranties and Chris from Mountavision chimes in every once in a while. The Mack Warranty seems to be popular with the AVS crowd. I've also heard good things about the dtvexpress warranty and unlike the Mack, it includes one bulb.

Cheers,

Doug

I've got a 73736 which short of a couple of features is the same as the Diamond. I'm very happy with it and it calibrates nicely with a decent OOB picture. I watched the Mits DLPs evolve since their introduction (I had a Mits 65" CRT RP before the 73736) and they, much like other manufacturers, had some teething problems. Relatively speaking this year's models are bug free, although every once in a while someone gets a lemon. However, that's what Warranties and Return policies are for.

I haven't even heard many folks talk about Rainbows with these sets, which is a tribute to the newer color wheel designs. Overall, I think these DLP RPs are the best bang for the buck from a screen size/PQ perspective you can get, as long as you don't want to hang it on the wall. If you do, Sony sells a $20K 70" LCD on the SonyStyle web page.

Cheers,

Doug

Thanks for the info. My center channel only weighs 17 lb, so I'm going to go ahead and order the Omnimount. Previously I had the speaker on my fireplace mantel (don't use my fireplace ), but the new TV is going to be too tall for that .

Dtvexpress looks promising - I'm going to research it. According to their website it can't be ordered if the TV is more then 10 mo old, so it looks like I have some time.

Has anyone changed from a Sony 60" or 70" XBR2 to one of the 65" or 73" Diamond Series?

I am considering purchasing a 65" and 73" Mitsubishi Diamond Series DLP to upgrade from the current XBR2 models I have.

The reason for this is to hopefully avoid the inevitable green blob/optical block problems that the XBR2 series is currently developing.

I am looking for any information/opinions on how the features/picture quality compare between the Sony and Mitsubishi models.

Thanks for any help/info.

Colin

So I've had my 73736 for over a week now, here's my thoughts on it. The speakers are atrocious, in fact they are some of the worst I've ever heard. I had some geometry issues, and thanks to this thread I was able to get them almost all worked out. I finally found some color settings I like, skin tones look good, magenta is a bit off, but I don't want to mess with colors in the service menu. I see rainbows, but I've learned to live with them, certainly not bad enough to warrant a return. I love the size of this thing, totally immersive at 9 feet! Blu Ray and HD-DVD look excellent, HD U-Verse looks good, sd looks ok.
I am now searching for a new stand, something 16-20" high that can hold an 8" by 33" center channel.

I went from a Sony 60XBR950 Grand Wega(LCD RP) to the Mits 73835. It's nice having a larger screen and higher resolution, but it's also a double edged sword. Having such a large, high resolution screen makes SD look even worse and you are able to easily see the flaws in over-compressed HD. Even up-converted DVD's no longer look that good. On my Sony that was a 720P set(actually 768P), it was extremely difficult, if not impossible most of the time, to tell the difference between true HD and DVD's played from my Denon 2910. Now, it's all too obvious that you are watching an SD source. Blu-ray and HD video games and quality HD programming(like HD Theater, ESPN, etc.) look very nice. Worth the price of admission. The black levels are much better on the Mits than on my previous Sony set, but I my Sony had more accurate color. Use external speakers! I had to live with the internal speakers for about two months waiting on my receiver and speakers, the built-in speakers are shameful. The earbuds that are packed in with an iPod sound better. Rainbow effect does exist, but I don't see it all the time. Most of the time with white graphics on a black background or sometimes if I move my eyes too quickly during certain scenes. Not bad enough to ditch the set, but would be nice to not have it.

There are really only two(affordable) options for a self-contained display this large and I would recommend the 835. Although, if Sony hadn't of bowed out of the RP market, I was going to upgrade to their then new, top of the line 70" RP set that was set for release just as they announced they were dropping RP. Too bad, because all of the intial hype and reviews from shows said it was very, very good. I've already decided that my next move will be front projection in the next 3-5 years. You can never go smaller and never think that the set you are buying is "too big". No matter how big you think it is when you get it home, it's "not big enough" within a month.

I cant comment on the sony but I have a wd-65835 that replaced last years wd-65732 and the upgrade was pretty significant. as far as picture quality goes, I will be posting my "final" final calibration report in the settings and tweaks thread shortly so you can look there for some numbers you can throw up against any other set you are looking at.

basically the good on the set is world class black level, probably only out done by the pioneer kuro plasmas. bright punchy picture thanks to the latest dark chip 4 DLP chip.
sharpness is excellent on high def material, perhaps looking just a tad soft compared to the best plasma or lcd do to the fact that this set uses wobulation to achieve 1080p. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wobulation
don't worry though I can assure you it will display every pixel of a 1080p picture witch reminds me, you will want to look over to the settings and tweaks thread to learn how to disable the sets keystone correction because that is the only way to get a true 1:1 pixel ratio. in simpler terms, this will make your set sharper and give you a true 1080p resolution.

on to the bad. geometry is lacking. the picture will slightly bow to on the edges. its not noticeable in most normal viewing but if you have a 4:3 image up that has bars to each side you will notice it. i gets a little worse once you disable keystone correction. that's just a sacrifice you will have to make to get true 1080p on this set.
the sets color is off by default and requires a service menu adjustment to get it close to right. this may not mater to some but to purists like myself its a biggy. while on the subject of calibration I will mention that blue is a bit desaturated on these sets and there's simply nothing that can be done about it. it doesn't look bad to the eye really but the measurements are what they are.

most all of the advanced features on the diamond are worthless and decrease the performance of the set. that's not to say there's no reason to buy the diamond as there are some features such as the perfectint that are worth having and will allow you to calibrate these sets better + the diamond has a auto iris that increases the perceived contrast of the picture giving you a more punchy picture and potentially deeper blacks. just don't buy it for the smooth 120. < crap.

QUOTE=AuroraProject;15576980]Is it this one?

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40105340

I was thinking of picking this up, but it seems a tad low. Lots of room for a big center channel though.[/quote]


nah thats not it, ill put it up tomo

well i just got my 65735 set up and man this looks a lot nicer than my old sony. Not quite set up how i want it yet...ran out of time before the football games started

But for $1180 i paid for it i am very happy.

First post. Been lurking for a while. Just bought a 73835 at BB today. Picking up in a couple of weeks. Replacing an old WS-65819 that's given many years great service.

The Mitsubishi stand says it's for the 73735 and 73736. Is this also the correct stand for the 835 or is there another model for the Diamond? Any suggestions for alternatives?

BTW, BB had the 73835 on sale today for 2699. I was planning on getting the 736 not being willing to spend the close to 1K premium for the 835. The BB price made the difference more reasonable. The online site wasn't showing the sale price yet.

I have my DirecTV HR-22 700 DVR connected to my 65735 via HDMI. For any of you with a similar setup, do you have your HR-22 set to switch (on the fly) to the native resolution of the source material, or do you have the HR-22 set to always output at a set resolution, such as 720p or 1080i? If the latter is the case, at which resolution do you output?

I have an HR20 connected to a WD60735. I set native off and only output 1080i. This gives me faster channel changes and a good picture all of the time. Anything else and there is ratio problems in the tuner and slow surfing, especially since the last firmware update.

Mike Jones

here ya go , its kinda dark so i might need to take another one......