Originally Posted by waterhead
The person to really thank is Michael Krufky. He and CityK are V4L-DVB developers (among others), without whom we would still need to use Windows for TV.
I knew if I looked hard enough I would find a reason to hate Ubuntu! Damn those pretty and popular girls... umm... I mean distros!
Yes, Ubuntu has been grabbing most of the limelight, deservedly so in the recent past for putting the focus on the end user experience/desktop experience and release schedule discipline, which has motivated lots of other distros to improve their install/driver experience and release schedules for users.
However, the past 6 months or so with Ubuntu have indicated some kind of change going on- Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04 haven't been as polished and vetted for driver issues (PInnacle 800i, Pulse audio, bt wireless drivers for notebooks, etc) prior to release as they could have. There appears to be a rising tide of resentment in the user community about the Ubuntu developer's lack of attention to detail and responsiveness to what many users feel are obvious, basic driver issues that aren't addressed prior to release.
IMO, the entire *point* of a "distro", in addition to making the install procedure simple and adding wizards/front end GUIs for common system tasks, is to test and vet the driver base. Too many distros tout all the apps they have- who cares if your distro has the latest OpenOffice/Mplayer/ or whatever app- any idiot can add these from Synaptic, debs or install scripts. The job of the distro is to package the low level stuff properly, and communicate needs back upstream to the driver developers and hopefully motivate them to get their drivers up to snuff.
On the bright side, Ubuntu has spawned great derivatve distros like MythBuntu and Mint, which are developing their own communities/ fan bases. If Ubuntu doesn't get back on track in the next release or two, these kinds of distros can always change to another base or start rolling their own. I am actually waiting for Mint 5.0 late this month, and will try to add MythBuntu on top of it from Synaptic. Mint adds all the media stuff by default, and cleans up driver issues and fundamental system level issues like network drive sharing defaults. I want to see if Mint 5.0 fixes up the Pinnacle 800i issues out of the box, though now that I know the "secret sauce", pasting a few lines into the terminal isn't so bad in MythBuntu 8.04
Competition is good- I'm sure MythBuntu has motivated MthDora to improve, and the Mint's of the world might not have been inspired to start without Ubuntu demonstrating a vision, however imperfect, of what can be done with a distro.
Back on topic, after running the Myth Setup and scanning for channels, I ran the front end and tried "Watch TV".
All I get is a blank screen for a few seconds, then it goes back to the Front End main menu. If I hit Watch TV again-> black screen-> back to main menu.
Out of the frying pan...
(I might not have access to the box until Mon/Tues...)