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JeffCs Theater Construction Begins! Thx Logan

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Hello everyone. The planning has got to come to and end or I will never get this project rolling. My build is my first attempt but I will be adding all the common elements of most the builds here such as:

1) Double drywall, Green Glue and integrity gasket
2) HVAC 90 degree runs under MDF boxes
3) Grafik Eyes
4) 2 rows of seating (3 and 5) Berks and Movie seats
5) Riser
6) Sand filled Stage
7) Columns
8) Screen Wall with DIY 120' AT scope screen (Sheerweave)
9) Full sound treatments- traps etc.. (Bpape design)
10) Starfield ceiling (~11x5)
11) Dedicated equipment room with built in DVD storage
12) Whatever else I may dream up or you all suggest
*12.1) Lighted Marquee and Poster frames- IndyGreg inspired
*12.2) Second Grafik Eye (to date 9 zones)
*12.3) Bigs nip and TUFT bar front
*12.4) Snack Area- just cause it is a one of a kind!
*12.5) Powered Masking System

*edited

The Room
We just built our new house and I did accommodate for the HT butbeing a bone head my dimensions are not the greatest ~18x16x 9 (nothing I can do about this at this point ). Here is the back side of the roomCould have easily made it a few feet deeper errrrrrrr



With the AT screen puts me very square as shown in the diagram. Note the light blue is and existing soffit and the peach are the planned new ones.



Here are some pics of the space

Equipment room- big mess right now but will be moved to the room's back false wall.



Existing Soffit



Ok fellas chime in if you see something I am setting myself up on and would really appreciate over all comments and suggestions.

And if you are lurking out there Logan you are MINE! But do owe ya some thanks as you did get me motivated !

Cheers Jeff
post #2 of 698
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This weekend I hope to get all everything in so I can get started on the drywall. I plan on using the new soffits and columns for a lot of the wire run after drywall. The biggest concern is the wall under the existing soffit and getting everything in there

Edit: had to make some changes that are explained later

VERSION 1 (wrong )




Version 2 revised and complete


If I can get through the bulk of this I should be in great shape!

Jeff
post #3 of 698
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I have a quick question. what hieght did you mount your sconces? I just mounted some backer boards at 72 and moved down to 66...
post #4 of 698
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Made some progress! Have my sconces wired and will have my speaker wire pulled tonight. I have about 2 hours of prep and I can start drywall. Will have the rock delivered this week and hang it next weekend!
Cheers

EDIT - LOGANED
post #5 of 698
Oh, I'm lurking out here....I'm EVERYWHERE!

Pictures look really good. I think you'll end up with a great room. Wish I had 9' ceiling...I have less than 8 in my bar/game area and even less where the screen will go as it is below a sunken family room. Looks like you're moving pretty fast.

Good luck,
Tom

(oh, I can hit the 7-iron and evne a decent 8-iron....what's killing me is the lob wedge, sand wedge, 6-iron, putter...)
post #6 of 698
Jeff,

Great looking space, I wish I had that much room for my HT. You gotta love a walkout, it makes getting the sand and other materials so much easier to deliver.

Good luck on the build.
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

Oh, I'm lurking out here....I'm EVERYWHERE!


(oh, I can hit the 7-iron and evne a decent 8-iron....what's killing me is the lob wedge, sand wedge, 6-iron, putter...)

I had a feeling you were out there! Thanks for the kind words. I will get some pics up tonight of the progress. I wish I didn't have to lose some of the headroom for the soffits but such is life

As far as the the wedge play, I found a great book that discusses the physics of the short game Highly recommended! Dave Pelz- Short Game Bible. Crack a beer and give it a shot I bet it helps!
post #8 of 698
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Originally Posted by Funston View Post

Jeff,

Great looking space, I wish I had that much room for my HT. You gotta love a walkout, it makes getting the sand and other materials so much easier to deliver.

Good luck on the build.

Thanks Cris

Your place is coming along looking good! It is exciting watching your house go up I spent countless hours at ours. When is the move in date?
post #9 of 698
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The Rock is stocked! Seems Like I ordered to much but after many re-calcs it has to be right.....but sure looks like to much

Went to take so me pics and my wife has the camera in Va Beach and the Camcorder battery was dead...go figure. Once I get it charged up I will post some pic updates.

Cheers Jeff
post #10 of 698
It tends to look like a lot more than it is when your standing there looking at the pile with the "what have I gotten myself into" feeling going through your head. Did you get a supply of Ibuprofen delivered too

Keep us updated on the progress.
post #11 of 698
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Time for an update! Sorry for the pic quality, taken with the 1M camcorder (Judy has the camera on the east coast).

Well the drywall was stocked today 75 4x10 sheets (5 extra) and a case of OSI 175! It sure seems like to much but, it seems like I thought that in my old house basement project ended up just right.



All the wires are really done now! I added 2 more zones (2 grafik eyes- 9 zones planned) for the outside marquee and lighted frames on each side as well. Quick question when I wire these two together they work as one correct? What I mean is I can add all the zones into a single scene…. A bit more on the GE’s- I am going to mount them in the equipment room and use an entrance control. If needed I can use a third box for all the NM 12.2 which should work out pretty good and aesthetics not near as important being mounted in there actually should look pretty cool side by side.

Also duhhhh! I was having a beer looking about and it hit me like a ton of bricks! He stupid your door jamb is like way to narrow! The existing door is a high quality solid core masonite door but has to go. I will widen the rough opening for the equipment room and use it there.

As I mentioned above I am going to do a lighted marquee entry now, I wasn’t planning on this until a few days ago and here is my initial plan (please excuse the very draft diagram)



Question now that I am going to go with a new door do you all think it should swing in or out and left or right swing?

I know there are a ton of threads on doors but what should I order? Safe and sound? Or is there something other I should look at?

I am planning to install prior to hanging any rock so I can cut to fit, this is the right approach don’t you think? This may slow down the rock hanging a bit but what the hell I have been LOGANED!

The other issue I need to deal with is the central vac. It is in the correct position for the front left column but I need to whack off the inlet and move the tubing a bit. Not a big deal just having a problem finding the parts. Do you guys think this will look ok in the column? Any suggestions on this?



The only minor things left is cutting a hole for the 4 inch HVAC return for the equipment room and the 8 inch for the main room. The room was roughed for a square return at the floor. Need to change to accommodate the sound isolation issues shown in the diagram in a previous post. This will ultimately live in the new soffit.



I already ripped out the existing supply and it is ready for the flex vent



Well that is about it for now!

Jeff
post #12 of 698
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Sorry Fellas need to curb the posts for a bit....will explain later
post #13 of 698
? Was off to a great start!
post #14 of 698
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? Was off to a great start!

Got it worked out. A rogue Post came in last night that new a bit to much about the personal side of things....(reminded me of Utahs thread ) turns out to be a misunderstanding. I need to just remember that even though this board is like a bunch of buddies hanging out it is still the Inet. Need to keep it focused on the Man Cave only.

I am planning on getting the drywall hung next week. Question, after the first layer and fire tape I should let the mud and OSI dry prior to doing the second layer and GG right?
post #15 of 698
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I was down playing pool last night I had a vision! I have been trying to figure out how to do a snack area with the popcorn popper (with exhaust) and didn't want it to interfere/invade the main bar area (which is on the list too). Here is a concept sketch and is right outside of the main HT entry.




I think it will work out pretty well and be unique. I think I can come up with my own rack and pinion or just order a couple of these

I could probably even do a larger RP DLP TV up above. (save a few bucks and get a bigger screen vs a flat panel)

Not much to do on the HT until the drywall goes up.
cya later
post #16 of 698
Now that is something I want to see!
post #17 of 698
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Now that is something I want to see!

Me Too! Imagine this, you could program say "Skittles" on you remote and the appropriate lift comes up! Could have a small touch screen incorporated with all the candy selections on it an simply touch the right button. I think I will have to come up with a control board down the road to really take it over the top. First step will be to mock up the lift in the shop. Seems pretty straight forward though. Toughest part will be engineering against it binding up I would imagine.
post #18 of 698
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Hey Big, do you think the 8 " a sec travel would be to fast? They have a 4" a sec too. Don't want the candy to "jump" when it stops. thinking about ordering one to start to play with

With 27 inches of travel the lift would fully be deployed in
8 inch = 3.37 seconds
4 inch = 6.74 seconds ( might be a bit more dramatic)
post #19 of 698
I think this is a "Logan" moment. Debating the speed of the candy lift when you don't even have the theater drywalled. Bro, you need to get focused. I am speaking from experience.
post #20 of 698
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LOL I was thinking the same thing! I am in holding pattern until next weekend on the sheet rock..
post #21 of 698
Power vent for the popcorn popper... Now there is something I never thought of.

I have had mixed feelings/feedback on a popcorn popper. My wife feels it would be a pain to clean as she has used one at my kid's school before. That said, I left my options open and ran an extra plug to the back corner of my Theater that is sort of dead space anyway... As it happens it is the exterior corner of the house so venting would be pretty easy... My wife is aka "blood hound" and obsesses over every smell so anything with an exhaust vent would be a bonus to all involved.

So now I have something else to think about... (ie. something to think about rather that work on the HT... Man, it never ends...
post #22 of 698
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Originally Posted by RPh Drew View Post

Power vent for the popcorn popper... Now there is something I never thought of.

I hadn't either until I read it on here a while back, seems like a no brainer once you think about it- or should I say smell about it

Jeff
post #23 of 698
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I have had mixed feelings/feedback on a popcorn popper.


I got a proper Popper more for the visual statement it makes about it being a theater.

In reality 99% of my popping is one bag of Orville's Smart Pop in the Microwave. Low fat and it limits how much I'm going to eat at one sitting. If I load the big gun, I get great, fat loaded popcorn and I can't stop until it's all gone.
post #24 of 698
MAN! Now that I see your whole plan, it's pretty amazing! I would love to have the space to have a true dedicated room with an entry like that. Remote control candy shelves. That is cooler than the lights on Big's bar. And I thought my plan to put a monitor in the bathroom was cool.

Quote:


I think this is a "Logan" moment. Debating the speed of the candy lift when you don't even have the theater drywalled. Bro, you need to get focused. I am speaking from experience.

So am I. You've got some momentum, keep it going!

Good luck!
Tom
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

Remote control candy shelves. That is cooler than the lights on Big's bar.

That was the intent .........need to come with your "A" Game on here. Bigs room is a tough egg to crack! I think I have it all figured out. I am going to run the concept by my cabinet guy to get a better idea for the above part. Mainly to figure out the wood/color of the main bar as I want it to match.

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And I thought my plan to put a monitor in the bathroom was cool.

It is wish I would have thought of it, to late for me to incorporate!

Thanks for the words of encouragement!

Jeff
post #26 of 698
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It has been a while since I updated….well that’s cause I have had nothing to update. And this post is pretty weak too! Some of these pics have been done for a while but thought I would share.


Installed the 8 inch return




Rerouted Central VAC to enter into left front column




Rerouted all of the 12 zones of whole house audio, Intercom system and a few others.

Before


Snake stuck in the conduit! My snake is about 80 foot shorter now!


After
xxx

Lighted movie poster wiring behind to the wall



I did discover that the 4 inch return I installed for the equipment room is in fact a supply from ZONE 1!



It was getting a bit warm in the theater and I went to check the programming on the thermostat and it is all mucked up. Turn on the air and the so called return was blowing cold air! So of course I had to contemplate what to do. I decided to leave this and run a new return from the other end of the room. should work OK.

Sounds crazy but actually pretty easy mistake once I took a closer look at how the zones were run.

I still need to extend my door jamb (have the materials) tonight and install the integrity gasket tonight and build out the corners for dryawall. With any luck drywall this coming weekend.

Cheers Jeff
post #27 of 698
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I have also given some thought to the masking system. Here are a few mock ups.



Eventually I wan to build a control board so I can have more AR’s to mask but the first go will be 2 position.


And the panel design. I intend to use overhead sliding screen parts for this. We have Pella sliders and it struck me that the screen is much like a masking panel.



I have the actuators on order for both the Masking system and the candy lifts. Should be fun setting these up and testing in the shop J

Jeff
post #28 of 698
You're masking system looks really interesting.

I had a good laugh at your "...snake is 80' shorter" comment from an earlier post. Been there, done that, but it still makes me laugh.

Great progress.

CJ
post #29 of 698
You just go ahead and spend your time on the masking system. Yeah, that's right...you jsut go on ahead on that masking system. It makes me HAPPY you're spending time on a masking system...bwa hah haaa haaaa!!!!!!!
post #30 of 698
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Originally Posted by carboranadum View Post

I had a good laugh at your "...snake is 80' shorter" comment from an earlier post. Been there, done that, but it still makes me laugh.

CJ

I screwed up when I built, should have ran 3 inch PVC but elected to run 2 3 quarters flex. And I must say that freaking snake was STUCK!

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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

You just go ahead and spend your time on the masking system. Yeah, that's right...you jsut go on ahead on that masking system. It makes me HAPPY you're spending time on a masking system...bwa hah haaa haaaa!!!!!!!

Oh mister Loganator....this is part of the plan to lure you in with my brilance why you are tracking the progress of the Masking system I will flank you on the right! Out on nowhere and in the blink of an eye the drywall will be up and I will be motoring along....well that is the plan anyway.

Really just killing time before the Rock is hung, at this point it seems it will never be off the floor and on the walls/ceiling.
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