Official Samsung LNxxA750 Owners Thread - Page 100

Pixel refresh rates mean nothing, it's just marketing. The pixels hold their state for 8.3 ms (120 Hz refresh rate).

I bargained my price to something close to Amazon.com at CC. I placed Brandsmart Against CC, and to my surprise CC won.

But Brandsmart would have matched, but they didn't have the table i wanted, so i decided to go with CC.

Looks to me like LIST PRICE has dropped again, at least for the 40" sets.

The MSRP for the 40" was originally 2,599.
In May, MSRP was reduced to 2,299.
Now it seems that MSRP is 2,099 (at least according to Big River.)

Edit: Note that I am talking about MSRP, so I don't think this post is in violation of forum rules....

wow, i hope they are coming out with a new bezel, but probably just a counter to the z series

I mentioned the drop in MSRP a couple of days ago in the 650 thread. Looks like there should be much more room for online retailers, such as amazon, to discount the sets. The reduction in MSRP has yet to result in proportionally lower prices though...

Sorry, must have missed your post! Scoop goes to hypertrophy.

Ehh, that doesnt matter. Actually, i posted it in the 650 thread, so you get all the credit here!

Re: Wireless LinkStick, could someone try plugging in a WiFi USB stick with a Ralink RT73 chipset and see if it's recognized?

anyone watching there 75 series to TrueHd or DTS-HD? If so how are you doing it?

It works fine. What exactly are you asking???

I've watched mine in AMP demo mode, baseball, soccer and tennis...I honestly can't tell the difference...can someone tell me what I should be seeing with AMP on and off?

go watch movie credits scroll up the screen, that'll give you a better understanding.

I promised a while back I would look at the Avia II motion tests and report back on how film mode does or does not improve deinterlacing of 480i material.

I thought about not posting these findings because:

A. I am a complete amateur and do not know what I am doing
B. I don't want to trigger a bunch of rumors
C. My setup is pretty low tech anyway

So take this for what it is: one idiot's test with an old (standard def) DVD player. I am sure I am overlooking some important factors.

DVD Player is a JVC XV-N50, connected to the Samsung LN40A750 via component. (Firmware 1004)

Tried each test 3 ways:

1. With DVD player outputting interlaced, 750's film mode OFF
2. With DVD player outputting interlaced, 750's film mode ON
3. With DVD player outputting progressive

(In all cases, AMP off, noise reduction off, edge enhancement off, black enhancement off, etc.)

Moving Zone Plate 2:3

When the DVD player outputs 480i, this basically tests the TV's deinterlacer for film;
when the DVD player outputs 480p, it tests the PLAYER's deinterlacer for film.
In both cases, the set has to scale to 1080.

Results:

1. The vertical resolution (as seen on the horizontal wedge) was very bad in the first configuration (film mode OFF).
2. With film mode turned to Auto, it was marginally better, but not by much.
3. Switching the DVD player to 480P was WAY BETTER.

--> Set does not deinterlace film as well as the DVD player; film mode helps a little but not enough.

Moving Zone Plate Video

1. The set did a so-so job when the DVD player was set to interlaced output.
2. Film mode off/auto made no difference. (I guess the set was able to identify the material as video.)
3. The DVD player completely hosed this when set to progressive.

--> The TV deinterlaces video better than the player. Film mode on auto does not seem to errantly detect a film source.

I noticed that my DVD player did not correctly identify the source as video (it has an indicator which tells you if it thinks it is dealing with Film or Video). But even manually overriding the settings to tell it the source was video, it was still a complete mess unless I let the TV handle the deinterlacing.

Conclusions:

What does all this mean?

• Clearly, my dvd player does a better job deinterlacing film than the 750 does, at least when it comes to moving wedges.
• Film mode does not seem to do harm when left on auto.

So for now, I have my DVD player set to 480p and film mode set to auto (The film mode setting will have no effect with DVD's, since I have the player set to 480P. It may or may not offer some help with digital cable, but at least it is doing no harm.)

The real test would be to look at some actual material in all the various configurations. I will try it soon, but right now I have kids in the room saying "Dad, when are you gonna stop looking at those circles and let us play Smash Brothers."

Remember that I am an idiot, and don't assume this really tells you anything about how good/bad the 750 series is!

Please, others try this, or point out if I am ignoring an important factor.

I am aware that CNet gave the 650 a pass on a similar HQV test, as well as for 1080i material. I am hoping that others will run some of these tests and share their results as well.

Edit: Same results on FW 1008

Oh yeah, and the 46", the size I'm looking at, seems to have dropped off to $2,500 MSRP, which is sweet. That's about $300 less than the Z4100 I was looking at. Looks more like a no-brainer decision to go with ol' Sammy-boy already...

I got my 52" for less than that...

Uh, so it will help me watch film credits?

No, that's MSRP, Amazon has it for far less than that on the 46", trust me.
Just trying to stick with the rules at hand here as best I can.

The tech came today to fix HDMI2 "mode not supported" problem on my 46A750. He was planning to replace the main board. I showed him the off-angle viewing problem and clouding problem. Looks like they will replace the panel and main board at the same time. He needs to order the panel. I requested for a TV replacement. Not sure - whether that will happen or not. Any point calling samsung ECR?

I'm going to have my 40A750 serviced. It has screwed up audio in the right-hand channel. I thought about sending it back, but there are no clouds, etc, so I figured I'd let them fix it. I'd hate to get a new one with clouds, etc.

They told me NOT to install the 1007 firmware, that the problem is not the same. They also said they have been getting complaints about PQ after updating the firmware. (Sound familiar? I'm not going to name names....)

Anyway, this sounds nuts, but they are going to replace the main board. I said if that's the case, why not try the firmware first? They said if the replacement board with new firmware doesn't solve the prob, they can put the old one back in, with the original FW.

Geez.

When in doubt, replace the main board!

Seems to be their first line of attack.

It's a great receiver if you ever decide to get one (though by then I'm sure there will be newer great ones).

But I guess saving $1500 is always good.

A few have said they have had syncing issues, I'm not one.

I even run a DVI to HDMI from my laptop, start a movie that is playing on my laptop, listen to it via headphones from my laptop and the lips are in perfect sync. Even if HDMI2 isn't listed as PC.

When did you get the TV and from where? Before I they replace parts I'd rather just return it and get a new one from the store I got it from.

If you are past your return policy date, then yes call ECR (or whomever) and try to fight for a full replacement instead of just parts.

I got it from Samsung in exchange of my 4669.

I agree with Kokobucks. I think you are more likely to get a new one if you ask Samsung directly. I think local service firms stand to make more $ if they service the TV. Of course, many are very honest and have your best interests in mind, so if he gets you a new TV be sure to thank him and tip him.

If i were you, and are still within the 30 day return period, i would go that route instead. Not all samsung tech subcontractors are the same, but the one the company sent out to "repair" my replaced 71f didnt give a crap about my set. He was under a time constraint, and cared little about stripping screws. He used the power drill as though he was working for a race car team in the pit lane. Because he was not careful the first go around, he ended up removing the back panel and main board several times.

I just could not look at the set the same after it had been raped to such an extent. Luckily, the set has been replaced.

I begged CC to take my money and get close to the Amazon price and they were not interested so went the Amazon route and could not be more pleased. They are a world class orgainzation and you will not have a problem.

sound's good , getting ready to buy in the next week and a half, going to check prices over the 4th then purchase. And I have a feeling it will be the amazon route.

I am really in the market for the A650 series, but I hear the A750 doesn't have the two reported problems that the A650 has (or at least they aren't as bad) the purple haze and flashlight "backlight bleed" issues related to the A650.

Is the A750 free of those two issues?

No purple, but it does have issues with clouds/flashlights on many sets.

LOL! Well, the more I think about it, if I get all 3, I'll get another $500 or more off on the deal. Thus, making the receiver $1K...damn it! Why do I think about this stuff!

At any rate, thanks for the info, I'm headed to BB tonight to work on some numbers!