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post #241 of 2871
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Originally Posted by billiam View Post

If Samsung had a 46A650 but with a matte or semi-matte screen, I'd probably have one already and stopped reading AVS

They kind of do, the xx69 series.
post #242 of 2871
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Originally Posted by stlgasman View Post

They kind of do, the xx69 series.

Had one for about a week, but I got one with the flicker problem that were prevalent with the last builds of the xx69 series (I had a 46"). Its a visual defect that can affect big parts of the screen, so I returned it. Kinda glad I did, as a 46A650 can now be had for roughly the same price.

I've been debating the W vs Z for a while, but with LED backlight and OLED techs coming in the near future, I think I'll save a few bucks now and just have the W hold me over till the new techs come down in price.
post #243 of 2871
Good morning, all! Last Friday I picked up a 40w4100 at my local BB (10% coupon, RZ certificates, plus good financing). I chose it over the Samsung 650 because it could be had for $50 to $75 cheaper and I just don't think I'd like the glossy screen and TOC. It was a completely blind buy as they didn't have one on display, but I had owned a 40V4100 previously for about a week so I figured they'd be comparable. I've never had a 120hz set but thought if I don't like it, it can always be turned off. The tv has an excellent picture out of the box, better than the V4100 IMHO. My V had that "warmup" effect others have talked about which was kind of annoying. I have a ps3 and 360 connected via hdmi and both look really good. I only have basic SD cable w/HD local channels, so I really can't experience a lot of HD programming, but what I have seen has been impressive. The W makes for a nice computer monitor, and I just love Sony's PIP and P&P. I also really like the new TV Guide feature. It works great after my initial setup. The Motionflow has been an interesting feature. I do believe it helps w/ motion blur, but I haven't exactly had a chance to view alot of sports and fast action stuff either. I did put in a bluray of Enchanted, w/animated opening, and together w/CineMotion Auto 1 it made for a completely new experience. Very 3-dimensional! So far I have liked everything about this tv save for one flashlight in the bottom left corner. Does anyone know if these can go away over time or should I try to switchout the set? It's only noticeable on a blank screen or while watching a letterboxed movie. Anyways, that's my initial less than 2 day old impression. I think it's an excellent set. I will try to post some pics if I can figure out how to do it. Have a great day!
post #244 of 2871
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post #246 of 2871
soonerfanjps,could you,please,take a close up picture of the label on the back of tv wich state a voltage requirements?
post #247 of 2871
Hey CAT! I can't get behind the tv to take a decent picture but it says 120V~60hz@230W. I hope this is the info you are looking for.
post #248 of 2871
Thanks! -Yep,this is it.
post #249 of 2871
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Originally Posted by avwilly View Post

in the best buy where i work when i displayed the 40w4100 i put them side-by-side with an 40A650 and i calibrated both with same settings and i didn't see much difference playing pirates of the carribian blu-ray. i would say both are excellent tvs in my case im going for sony 46w4100 because 2 reasons.

1.- I don't like the red color of samsung
2.- sony price is better

now in best buy system says we are getting the 46" in July 8 i hope this be not true because i can't wait to buy this tv im afraid some day im gonna end buying the 40".

Thanks for the info. I was going to check out the W4100 today but have some things I need to take care of so I'll probably do so after work tomorrow.
post #250 of 2871
Got a great deal on an XBR-4 from a local Sony Store here in So Cal (less than list price for new W4100 and was all set to pull the trigger...and did not! Looked at both TVs side-by-side playing different sources - Blu-Ray on XBR4 and HD (1080I?) TV feed on 4100. I have some issues that may be unique to my room, mounting on an old brick fireplace so really trying to keep the weight down (originally was thinking about Sharp 5264U because of the slim design but the picture just doesn't compare to Sony or Samsung). Anyway, the XBR is a better picture if you come from a film b.g. like me and like more"cinema-type" blacks, hard to exactly pin that down, but the 4100 looked more LCD-like than the XBR, IMHO. But the 4100 really looks like a great set with most of the bells and whistles as the XBR, except perhaps a bit less juice on the video processing side, the 10 bit color space thing (really not an issue yet given today's source material) However, one big "little thing" is 4 HDMI inputs on the 4100 v. 3 on the xbr. I say get as many HDMI inputs as possible to future proof things - with HD cable box, Blu Ray Player and Apple TV, I'd be already maxed out on the xbr and no room for any gaming inputs or whatever else comes down the line. My main question for this thread is the Samsung A750 vs the W4100 as those two seem like head-to-head competitors, I assume. I personally don't like the XBR styling with all the extraneous glass and bezel, but it is, again, IMHO, the best commercially available LCD image out right now. I really want a 65" LCD given how big my room is, but can't afford it. Just to throw one more TV in the mix - has anyone seen the newer 120Hz Sharp 52"??? SE94U
post #251 of 2871
I can get this model for a pretty good discount... how is this model compared to a Samsung 52" a550 series?
post #252 of 2871
Better than the A550 yeah
post #253 of 2871
Could anybody give me some impressions on the sound quality of the Sony W series TV's?

I close to buying either a 40" or 46". Will be using it as a stand-alone TV without any home theatre system attached.

In other words, I'll be depending solely on the W's built in speakers.

I have a 2 year old Samsung, and the speakers on it are terrible. I've heard people say that the Samsung A550 an A650 series also have bad speakers.

I'm seriously hoping the Sony speakers will be substantially better.

Anybody?
post #254 of 2871
i think they'll be good. better than the sammy at least. check out the thread below or use the search

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post13877573
post #255 of 2871
how does the 52" version of this look with SD content?
post #256 of 2871
What is a TOC and film b.g. ?
post #257 of 2871
Touch of Colour, or sometimes known as Transparent and Opaque Colour, since that's the process they used in the styling of the bezel. That's Samsung's gimmick... Sony's a lot more conservative with their styling, for the exception of that "glass hole" that they use. Also, they use a semi-matte screen on their W4100, so it won't distract you AS much, which is good, plus the PQ is probably better than you'd expect for an 8-bit panel.
post #258 of 2871
Yellowtip,

The sound on my 40" w4100 is very good. I've discovered that if you turn on THEATER mode, the sound on a DD 5.1 source is outstanding. It seems to create a surround sound w/o the tv surround sound option even being turned on. DYNAMIC config also sounds excellent, especially on music. Hope this helps.
post #259 of 2871
I've settled on a 52W4100 as my next set. The only thing holding me back now is the where-to-buy decision, which can be almost as hard as the what-to-buy decision.

I'd like to buy at Costco, just for the 90-day return privilege and extra year of warranty. But I'm guessing they won't carry it, they'll get a Costco-specific variation of it like they did last year. FYI, I just checked their site today and they only 52" LCD remaining is the Mitsu. So hopefully they're getting ready to roll over to 2008 models.

The local big box stores aren't stocking it yet. Only CC even shows it on their web site, and it's at $2999 MSRP.

Anyone have any suggestions?
post #260 of 2871
I guess just wait until they start sellin em eh
post #261 of 2871
Hi all,
I'll be expecting delivery of my 52W4100 that I ordered online tomorrow ... very very excited!

Is there anything that I should take note of before accepting the delivery? Any one has any settings that I can use? I have settings that I got from the W3000 thread, do you think that will work? I will keep everyone posted and give my first impression and mini review soon. Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Ron
post #262 of 2871
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Originally Posted by zfmax View Post

I've settled on a 52W4100 as my next set. The only thing holding me back now is the where-to-buy decision, which can be almost as hard as the what-to-buy decision.

I'd like to buy at Costco, just for the 90-day return privilege and extra year of warranty. But I'm guessing they won't carry it, they'll get a Costco-specific variation of it like they did last year. FYI, I just checked their site today and they only 52" LCD remaining is the Mitsu. So hopefully they're getting ready to roll over to 2008 models.

The local big box stores aren't stocking it yet. Only CC even shows it on their web site, and it's at $2999 MSRP.

Anyone have any suggestions?

I just posted above that I ordered the set last Thursday and will be expecting delivery tomorrow. If you don't mind the risk of purchasing online, you can get a pretty good price. I'll let you know how it goes. PM me if you want to know more about the price and where I ordered from. I'm new to the forum, so I'm not sure if I can post those information.
post #263 of 2871
Was in Fry's today (once again) comparing sets. I still think the XBR is better than the Sammy 52A750 (I know those are separate threads - bear with me). Fry's told me they will be getting the SonyW4100 in a week or so and will sell for list at $2999. The red glowing bezel on the 650 and 750 Samsungs is weird looking to me, but the PQ on both sets is pretty great. I'd be curious to know what people are paying online for Sony W4100 if that info can be posted. I've seen it as low as $2148 (that includes shipping). At any rate, I don't understand why some manufacturers are providing 4 HDMI inputs (Samsung and new Sony) while others (XBR, Toshiba) are not. And why does Samsung have an ethernet port, and new Sony does not? The long way of asking this: is will the Sony W4100 be network friendly in any way? Can I pipe content into it through an Apple TV, if all my HDMI ports are used up?

PS - whomever asked what "film b.g." means, I work in the film industry and am used to watching imagery on screens, typically captured and projected on film, not electronically (that's obviously changing very rapidly these days!)
post #264 of 2871
i believe the ehternet port on the 650 is for firmware updates and RSS news and weather feeds or whatever it is. if you want to stream content from your Apple tv, you need a DLNA capable set which is available on the 750 and Z4100 but not on the W and 650.
post #265 of 2871
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Originally Posted by diabolyte View Post

i believe the ehternet port on the 650 is for firmware updates and RSS news and weather feeds or whatever it is. if you want to stream content from your Apple tv, you need a DLNA capable set which is available on the 750 and Z4100 but not on the W and 650.

That's too bad. I need a minimum 52" for my family room (very large) and based on various threads on AVS Forum, doesn't look like the Z series comes that large. Which leaves me with the 750. Any clues as to when Sony will update XBR 52" sets and will they be DLNA compatible? I can't believe every manufacturer is not thinking about wireless and home networking, but then again, if they pour that R&D into their sets, there's nothing for us to buy a year from now
post #266 of 2871
I heard that the 750 doesn't stream large files(movies) very well using DLNA.

btw. the PS3 has DLNA and it does it very well so you don't need a DLNA capable tv to stream content.
post #267 of 2871
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Originally Posted by diabolyte View Post

i believe the ehternet port on the 650 is for firmware updates and RSS news and weather feeds or whatever it is. if you want to stream content from your Apple tv, you need a DLNA capable set which is available on the 750 and Z4100 but not on the W and 650.

According to the manual, the Z4100's DLNA feature only works for pictures and music, not video.
post #268 of 2871
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Originally Posted by diabolyte View Post

btw. the PS3 has DLNA and it does it very well so you don't need a DLNA capable tv to stream content.

Indeed.
post #269 of 2871
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Originally Posted by diabolyte View Post

i believe the ehternet port on the 650 is for firmware updates and RSS news and weather feeds or whatever it is. if you want to stream content from your Apple tv, you need a DLNA capable set which is available on the 750 and Z4100 but not on the W and 650.

Firmaware updates for Samsung A650/A750 are through USB port (on the left side of the panel), thumbdrive, not ethernet port.
post #270 of 2871
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My 52W4100 comes in tomorrow.

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