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post #31 of 2871
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Originally Posted by CATYPH202 View Post

Look,they are not in my living room so I judged PQ as TVs was set by salespersons.Most normal people will see briter source first and from greyter distance.Period. BTW -when I ajusted at BB 1 new little sony m4000 to my (and yours) liking ,some couple liked some dynex above much better,so we cant blame S.Persons.

ahh, I see. so from what I gather, the greater contrast and brightness catches peoples' eyes more on the showfloor but at the cost of crushed blacks. yeh I agree you can't judge the overall PQ at most stores because of the poor source and calibration. one of the reason plasmas always look so bad at BB
post #32 of 2871
Depends on how SD processing is, too. Sony is definitely known for high-end SD upscaling with their Bravia Engine, so let's hope that still holds true this time around with their second-gen technology.
post #33 of 2871
52" show as in-stock at Crutchfield:

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...00&c=4&tp=1626
post #34 of 2871
Is this model capable of passing through 5.1 audio from the HDMI inputs through the optical out port or is that only for audio from OTA signals?
post #35 of 2871
My 52W4100 was just delivered, once I get it unpacked and setup I'll post up some pics of it.
post #36 of 2871
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Originally Posted by Hargert View Post

My 52W4100 was just delivered, once I get it unpacked and setup I'll post up some pics of it.

nice. looking forward to it. also post your first impressions too.
post #37 of 2871
ooh any pics yet?

also does anyone have an idea of Canadian availability of the V and W series? I asked 2001 Audio Video and they said they haven't ordered any of the new Sony models yet... not sure about futureshop/bestbuy and others though...
post #38 of 2871
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Originally Posted by diabolyte View Post

nice. looking forward to it. also post your first impressions too.

Yes, let me know if I may find the 46" version worth it later on.
I would like the 52", but I just don't see that fitting on a stand that's only 4' wide.
post #39 of 2871
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Originally Posted by fireballz View Post

ooh any pics yet?

also does anyone have an idea of Canadian availability of the V and W series? I asked 2001 Audio Video and they said they haven't ordered any of the new Sony models yet... not sure about futureshop/bestbuy and others though...

I asked Audio/Video Unlimited and they ordered two 52W4100 and both have been sold already. They didn't know exactly when it'll ship, but guesstimate around June or mid-June and MSRP is somewhere between 2999-3299.

It sucks that Canadians always get things much later than our neighbors down south and we get gouge in prices too. If Sony doesn't deliver these new sets out by the end of the month then I might have to grab the samsung 650, my local shop is offering me a killer of a deal on the 650; one that I almost couldn't refuse. however, I still want to see how the W4100 will turn out, plus I've been turned off recently by the numerous reports of the clouding, purple haze and whatnot thats been plaquing the 650. so I don't want to rush things and have terrible regrets later, but this waiting is killing me.
post #40 of 2871
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Originally Posted by fireballz View Post

ooh any pics yet?

also does anyone have an idea of Canadian availability of the V and W series? I asked 2001 Audio Video and they said they haven't ordered any of the new Sony models yet... not sure about futureshop/bestbuy and others though...

I called up sony style Canada today and they said the 40" W4100 should be on their site on May 26th. So I'm hoping thats the same for Best Buy and Future Shop.
post #41 of 2871
I'm excited to be going down to Denver tomorrow to take a look at the 52w4100, which has reportedly been spotted there. I will try to take pics, although I'm not sure where my camera is at the moment. This will be the deciding factor on whether I'm waiting for these to show up on Big River, or waiting for these to drive down the price of the 650 on Big River. Of course, it might be best to wait for reviews to start coming in . . . grrrr . . . want tv now . . .
post #42 of 2871
Sorry for the delay I am in the middle of a move and the wife wanted me to help with that rather then play with my new toy.

Here are my impressions and I will try to get the pics up once I get home tonight from work.


First it comes with all the basic you would expect to see manual, remote, paper work. I was a little concerned when I opened the crate as some of the foam inserts were broken and the TV was kind of leaning forward. I had the delivery guy give me a hand and got it out and set-up with my new cable box.

The TV came with the picture in vivid mode that made everything WAY too bright and kind of washed out. Once I set it to normal or custom it looked much better. I am connecting via an hdmi cable but due to a settings problem on my set top box I can only get SD 480p out put on it. My initial impression was WOW. The set looked very good even with the default settings, the colors do not have the over the top look that I see on a lot of sets. The best way I can put it is everything looked very right. I did notice a little bit of skin tones looking a little red but was easily fixed my adjusting the color settings. By far for a screen this size this is the best I have seen SD look.

As I had no HD content to try I dragged my computer from the other room and connected it. I had some trouble getting the display right (was too big to fit on the screen) until I went into the settings and turned on per pixel setting and everything snapped right into place. I ran some basic solid color backgrounds to make sure I had no dead or stuck pixels (I don’t!) I also did not notice any flash lighting or banding. I then ran Assassins Creed and Crysis with all the details maxed and at max res. I did not notice and blurring or trails even in quick scenes. You can not use motion flow and the game mode at the same time. I did not notice any gaming lag in the normal viewing mode and I did not care for the how game mode looked compared to normal so just played in normal mode with standard motion flow on. The motion flow looked very good in the little I had to look at it and I have not noticed any tearing or smearing. I have had a couple of times where the signal breaks up and a section will look blocky for half a second but I am fairly certain that is a problem with the signal from my provider as it did that my old tube as well. When connected to the PC everything is smooth as gravy.

My wife did comment that it looked much better then she thought it would and the only other thing is she thought it would look bigger then it does.

If anyone has any questions I can try to answer them or look at it when I get home from work tonight.
post #43 of 2871
Not sure if this was mentioned earlier but can somebody give an overview of how the 52W4100 compares to the Samsung 650? Sorry I didn't have time to read every page of this thread. I read the specs but I want to know how they compare in real life.
post #44 of 2871
whoever gets this set first please test it for stutter with motionflow/ cinemotion auto1.
post #45 of 2871
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Originally Posted by davez82 View Post

whoever gets this set first please test it for stutter with motionflow/ cinemotion auto1.

...and smearing.
post #46 of 2871
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Originally Posted by Klamath View Post

...and smearing.

I know this may sound like a dumb question but is there standard test for these or are you just watching the set and looking to see if you see stutter or smearing? I will try the cinemotion when I get home tonight.
post #47 of 2871
To new owners of this set,
Please write your impression of Sony 120Hz technology in this set. Do you like it?
post #48 of 2871
I heard the new Sony's have a game mode where you can adjust the settings, is this true?
post #49 of 2871
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Originally Posted by bmac1632 View Post

I heard the new Sony's have a game mode where you can adjust the settings, is this true?

Yes you can adjust the settings in game mode. The defaults were not very good for me but I was able to adjust them to my liking.

Here are the pictures I took, they did not come out very well. Hmmm cant get images to display just cut links to see.

http://www.postyourimage.com/view_im...kVlZ1210213333

http://www.postyourimage.com/view_im...GOT81210213443

http://www.postyourimage.com/view_im...ucg21210213492

http://www.postyourimage.com/view_im...6dDr1210213531

http://www.postyourimage.com/view_im...IxUP1210213575

http://www.postyourimage.com/view_im...FWNf1210213608


I should get my set top box fixed tomorrow so will be able to put up some HD images then.
post #50 of 2871
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Originally Posted by YegorT View Post

To new owners of this set,
Please write your impression of Sony 120Hz technology in this set. Do you like it?

So far I like the 120Hz much better then I did in the store. It is not too over the top but I do notice the difference. I really like that it is not causing any tearing or smearing on anything that I have watched yet. This includes FPS gaming that has lots of fast movement. On the hole I am thrilled with the set so far.
post #51 of 2871
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Originally Posted by Hargert View Post

I should get my set top box fixed tomorrow so will be able to put up some HD images then.

What was the source for CSI?

More SD pictures would be much appreciated.

Thanks!
post #52 of 2871
Here's a few pics "hot linked" for you Hargert:


post #53 of 2871
Hargert, can you see if you can take any pics that show or not show motion artifacts like the pics below from an XBR4?
post #54 of 2871
Does the Sony KDL-52W4100 have a stand that swivels??? I saw somewhere that it does.. Perhaps the individual who actually posted pics and has this item in his house can comment.. Or , for that matter anyone who has actually has seen this model in person...

Again, im curious to know if this unit swivels, like the Samsung 650 series... Thank you..


jeff
post #55 of 2871
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Originally Posted by drivendriver View Post

What was the source for CSI?

More SD pictures would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

CSI was SD from my cable box as you can see I have it boxed in on the sides.

The stand does not swivel it is fixed forward.

I will try to see if I can get that motion artifacts that you showed. I have been playing several computer games (crysis, Sword of the Stars, WOW) on it and so far everything has been very smooth.
post #56 of 2871
That does look like one sleek looking TV. Can't wait for the 46", tho. Chances are, I probably may go with the Z4100, but at the very least, I can see if there's any much of a difference between the W4100 with an 8-bit, and Z4100 with a 10-bit. If not, well, guess I pretty much made up my mind.
post #57 of 2871
I know these are very nice sets but as has been said, the hole is hideous.
post #58 of 2871
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Originally Posted by Hargert View Post

CSI was SD from my cable box as you can see I have it boxed in on the sides.

The stand does not swivel it is fixed forward.

I will try to see if I can get that motion artifacts that you showed. I have been playing several computer games (crysis, Sword of the Stars, WOW) on it and so far everything has been very smooth.

WOW. Looks very good! Could you post more SD pictures from analog cable?

Also you are saying the stand does not swivel. Can you at least adjust it up or down like a regular PC LCD? It seems like the stand would be the only bad thing along with the hole with this TV..
post #59 of 2871
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Originally Posted by billiam View Post

Hargert, can you see if you can take any pics that show or not show motion artifacts like the pics below from an XBR4?

Poor source choice, Dead Rising employs some of the heaviest motion blur you're likely to find on the consoles (see also Lost Planet). If those are your shots billiam, I hope you had other displays handy for direct comparison. You could have very likely replicated the same effect on a CRT.
post #60 of 2871
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Originally Posted by Orta View Post

Poor source choice, Dead Rising employs some of the heaviest motion blur you're likely to find on the consoles (see also Lost Planet). If those are your shots billiam, I hope you had other displays handy for direct comparison. You could have very likely replicated the same effect on a CRT.

No, not my pics, I found them in another thread/post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13803675

Here's the other shot, from a Panasonic TH50PX60:
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