The Onkyo TX-SR606 Owners Thread - Page 50

I didn't see an answer to this one...
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Never mind, I found the answer (yes). Thanks.

did you hear any sound coming from the sub?
if no sound, then either your sub is dead or not hooked up properly.
if you got sound from the sub, then your microphone didn't hear it for some reason.

hi guys i was reading about your last few posts about passive passthrough and it worked. But I have one problem, I can only get video and no audio to passively passthrough.....is there a setting where I can enable audio to the TV speakers while the 606 is off?


thanks guys

I didn't set anything specific for audio out and the audio to the TV speakers just worked. That said, maybe there's someting about my settings that enabled the audio. You have the HDMI Output Resolution set to 'through', right? You have the 650 and I have the 750, but I doubt that makes any difference. I can't think why the audio signal wouldn't get passed through the HDMI along with the video. Could the issue be your 650 settings?

hmmm i just checked out my toshiba A35 and audio worked fined through the tv speakers, but for some reason my PS3 only does video out and no audio.


Edit:.................ok nevermind i think i fixed the problem , just had to go to the PS3 sound setting and put it in automatic.

BTW do u guys need to turn on the 606 first then turn it off before it goes into passive mode? or is there a sequence to enable this like turning on the source first than tv?

I've only checked this out using the Directv HR21 and it isn't sensitive to the order in which I turn on the TV or the 606. And no, I didn't need to turn the 606 On and then Off. Once I have the 'TV Control' set to 'enable', I can just turn the TV on and it does a 'Searching for Signal' and quickly sees the signal (video and audio) from the HR21.

EDIT: I was wrong about one thing. With the 606 on Standby, I turn the TV On and I get a "Searching for Signal" message and then the 606 turns On with no action on my part. The HR21 signal is displayed and then I can switch the 606 back to Standby and I still have audio and video on the TV.

ok i set the tv control to enable and it seems to work fine the first time. Turn on TV and then the PS3...works ok, but when I turn off my PS3 and then turn on my Toshiba A35....it gets no signal unless i turn on the 606 select the input the A35 is connected to then turn it off.

Anybody else having this problem with swtiching sources through passive passthrough?

Not the same problem, but see my EDIT in the last post. Interestingly, as long as "Power Control" is enabled, this works whether "TV Control" is enabled or disabled. I'm not sure what's going on here.

Will really appreciate if someone can help..!

I recall seeing a receiver with a karaoke function, but this isn't it. It has to mix the mic. to the other audio. Try a google and another model/brand?


TerryB
Take a look here:

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6035_102...sageID=2794615

No sound came out during the test. The light is on so it's getting power. I'll have to make sure it's hooked up properly. It's probably dead though, knowing my luck. Of that entire HTIB system, the only thing I know that works are the center speaker, front speakers and the DVD player.

When all else fails, read the manual. Just read the sections on page 81 (Control and Power Control) and page 82 (TV Control). I had skipped over this material because it seemed to apply only to the Onkyo proprietary RIHD control scheme. Buried in this material, as becool noted in his post, is a reference to the CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) system. I'll have to find out what CEC is, but in the meantime, I think that most of what we've been experiencing is explained in this section of the manual.

If you enable Power Control and TV Control and have the right TV:

• You may be able to get audio and video passed through the 606 when it is in Standby. (Works for me with my LN-52A750)
  
• Standby in this case is not exactly Standby, but something called Ready, which apparently consumes more power than plain ol' Standby.
  
• You may be able to turn the 606 On by turning your TV On. (Also works for me)

I still don't know:

• Why I'm getting an OSD of the 606 volume control over HDMI.
  
• Why the 606 switches from HDMI3 to HDMI1 on start up.

I tried the HDMI3/CBL experiment on my set but it didn't switch to HDMI1 . Maybe because nothing was connected to HDMI 1. Was your HDMI1 assigned to something?

You'r right about the volume display it shows on my display too. it s weird. i have to think about it

HDMI1 is connected to a PS3. HDMI3 is connected to the HR21.

I got it. the volume display shows only if there is no video input (blue screen) right?
which makes sense. if there s an HDMI video input it will pass through with no immediate display.

I also noticed that you dont need to set the HDMI output resolution to through in the passive mode to get the video. It works with all resolutions (720p, 1080i, Auto) except with 480p.

I'm getting the volume display even with video input. Shows up at the bottom of the screen: "TX-SR606 | xx". Where xx is the volume level. It only shows up when you adjust the volume and disappears after a couple of seconds.

After you make changes to Power Control and TV Control, you do have to cycle the 606 to Standby and then On to get the changes to take effect.

received mine last week and finally got a chance to hook it up today. It is replacing a really old pioneer elite 6.1 receiver. I currently have harman kardon speakers and and added another set for 7.1 audio. I thought setup was a breeze and it did a great job setting everything up and even got all the crossover settings and distances exactly right, but I did not agree with its 15DB down point or distance for my sub so I had to modify it.

One question though.....
I absolutely love the default listen mode function and am curious on what the most "generic best setup is" I currently have hd dvd, blu-ray, hd cable, and xbox 360 all connected through hdmi and chose DPLIIx as default for almost all sources and original signals except for the "pure audio" signals like plus, hd, ma, etc....those, I left alone. Do you feel this is the correct "generic setup" for most video sources????

As an added "Easter Egg" I was stunned that the remote controlled my pace hd dvr without programming........

From Wikipedia:

Consumer Electronics Control channel
The Consumer Electronics Control (CEC) channel wiring is mandatory although implementation of CEC in a product is optional. The CEC channel uses the industry standard AV Link protocol, is used for remote control functions, is a one-wire bidirectional serial bus, and was defined in HDMI Specification 1.0 and updated in HDMI 1.2, HDMI 1.2a, and HDMI 1.3a (added timer and audio commands).

The CEC feature is used to allow the user to command and control multiple CEC-enabled boxes with one remote control and for individual CEC-enabled boxes to command and control each other without user intervention. An example of the latter is to allow the DVD player, when the drawer closes with a disk, to command the TV and the intervening A/V receiver (all with CEC) to power-up, select the appropriate HDMI ports, and auto-negotiate the proper video mode and audio mode. No remote control command is needed. Similarly, this type of equipment can be programmed to return to sleep mode when the movie ends, perhaps by checking the real-time clock. If it is later than 11:00 p.m., for example, and the user does not specifically command the systems with the remote control, the systems turn off on command from the DVD player.

Alternative names for CEC are Anynet (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Theatre Sync (Sony), Regza Link (Toshiba), RIHD (Onkyo), Simplink (LG), Viera Link/EZ-Sync (Panasonic/JVC), Easylink (Philips) and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi). It's unclear to me whether all those alternative implementations of CEC are the same. Apparently Onkyo's RHID and Samsung's Anynet are at least somewhat compatible because my TV is able to command the 606 to turn on without any input from the remote. There are 4 pages in my LN-52A750 manual on Anynet. Something to read as I drift off to sleep tonight. It's possible that my 606 is switching from HDMI3 to HDMI1 on startup because the TV, via CEC, is telling it to do that for some reason.

Alright, I have the sub in the sub pre-out. I turned it on manually with the receiver controls and now the light is green on the sub but still no sound. I don't want to go through the trouble of shipping this thing back to Onkyo, any troubleshooting ideas?

yea I think your TV is very compatible with 606 the "TX-SR606 | xx" display is certainly coming from your TV not from the 606.

make sure you have your sub enabled in the speaker config.
if your sub has a manual crossover on it, set it as high as possible.
make sure the volume control on your sub is not at 0.
if your sub has a fuse on it, make sure it's not blown.
try setting your fronts to full band and enabling the double bass feature.
go to the speaker level calibration, make sure the sub is not set way down.

if still no sound, you'll have to take more drastic measures.
if your sub has speaker level inputs, unhook one of your front speakers and hook your sub up to that speaker wire. see if you can get sound.
instead of using the sub out from the 606, try hooking it up to the tape-out jack on the 606.

is still no sound, most likely your sub is dead.

Pardon my ignorance again, but is there any way for the receiver to remember the volume level you were at for a certain input?

For example, I use 35 for most everything except my hd-dvd player I want to keep it at 40. It isn't a big deal if I have to keep changing the volume, it would just be convenient is all.

Use Intellivolume to increase the level of the DVD input by 5db.

So is there a way to get volume control over HDMI input.
What is your set up to get the volume control on screen?

I have found that I can only get it if my input is anything but HDMI.
Component in - HDMI out = Volume OSD
HDMI in - HDMI out = No volume OSD

Help!!!

To get the volume OSD to work with HDMI, you need to have a TV that supports CEC (see previous posts). Go to setup/hardware setup/HDMI (7=>5), set Control, Power Control and TV Control to Enable. Cycle the 606 to Standby and then On. Should do it.

"Alternative names for CEC are Anynet (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Theatre Sync (Sony), Regza Link (Toshiba), RIHD (Onkyo), Simplink (LG), Viera Link/EZ-Sync (Panasonic/JVC), Easylink (Philips) and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi)."

I have a Samsung LNT-5271f that uses Anynet. Does this mean it should work? I will try it tonight....

Did you have to connect the RI cable (out) from the 606 to the Anynet input on the back of your Samsung tv?

http://www.riverparkinc.com/techpdf/...s%20manual.pdf

No, the only connection between the 606 and the Samsung is the HDMI cable.


Thanks for the link. Holy smoke, who knew there was a 56 (56!!) page manual for Anynet???

Is anyone able to tell how much more power it uses? I need to get me one of those Kill-a-Watt things.

Just a guess, but it seems like it should work.