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post #2341 of 9462
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Originally Posted by carolinablues View Post

Hi all,
I just got around to using the bi-amp for a pair of KEF iQ3s with my 606.

Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to use the bi-amp feature to drive 2 sets of speakers?

For example, hook up the "high end" feed to the KEF's

and use the "low end" feed to drive a pair of floorstander?

I'm guessing the 606 uses some internal crossover when in bi-amp mode.

I just don't want to blow anything up.

Thanks in advance.

I've switched the receiver setting to biamp with my 7.1 system and it just sends a duplicate front left and right signal to the other speakers.

You can try it and it won't do any harm. When you switch back to the normal setting, you'll have to reselect the crossover setting for your back speakers from the available options, so take a look at what crossover is being used first, so you can just reselect it.

I believe when yu biamp speakers, the crossover is internal to the speaker, so the receiver doesn't do anything but use the crossover selected for the front r & l speakers.
post #2342 of 9462
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Originally Posted by aydu View Post


I believe when yu biamp speakers, the crossover is internal to the speaker, so the receiver doesn't do anything but use the crossover selected for the front r & l speakers.

Glad to hear it is atleast safe to try!

The 606 manual shows hooking up the surr back speakers to the "woofer" terminals of the speaker. And hooking up the front speakers to the "tweeter" terminal of the speaker.

My iQ3 speakers have 4 terminals (i'm assuming 1 for tweeter/ 1 for woofer).

Because of this diagram I just assumed that the 606 sent the "highs" to the tweeter, and the "lows" to the woofer using some type of cross over to decide.

Is this not the case?
post #2343 of 9462
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Originally Posted by carolinablues View Post

Glad to hear it is atleast safe to try!

The 606 manual shows hooking up the surr back speakers to the "woofer" terminals of the speaker. And hooking up the front speakers to the "tweeter" terminal of the speaker.

My iQ3 speakers have 4 terminals (i'm assuming 1 for tweeter/ 1 for woofer).

Because of this diagram I just assumed that the 606 sent the "highs" to the tweeter, and the "lows" to the woofer using some type of cross over to decide.

Is this not the case?

This is not the case. Just remember to remove the jumpers from your speakers that connect the high and low inputs.
post #2344 of 9462
I've been searching through these forums trying to decide on an AVR. I'll most likely need 3 HDMI inputs, PS3, DVR and DVD player (maybe). I've been seriously considering the 606 since it has the most HDMI inputs and the price is great. The only issue I have is the complaint of the hum that seems to be permeating through this thread.

Has anyone taken a poll or head count to see how many owners actually have this issue? Is it widespread or just a few who seem to post alot about it. If it is the former, we'll then I'll have to take a serious reconsideration at other brands. If its the later then I'll probably take the chance and get this one.

Thanks

Zetachi
post #2345 of 9462
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Originally Posted by dom6918 View Post

Thats your specific issue serious..most are all affected by the HDMI input..thanks for this...im swapping my receiver today and will ask for the B!

Um, nope, it's not just me. Read the thread and you'll see it affects a bunch of people. It ain't just HDMI that gives the buzz.

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Originally Posted by dom6918 View Post

didnt work

You need to hit Display and then push Standby on the actual receiver, not the remote. Then it'll work.
post #2346 of 9462
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Originally Posted by glemigh View Post

5.5 * 120 (volts) = 660 watts.

George

Oh yeah. I remember now from school. Amps * volts = watts.
Thanks. Draws more than I thought! The European version only draws 550 watts according to the manual.
post #2347 of 9462
You need to hit Display and then push Standby on the actual receiver, not the remote. Then it'll work.[/quote]

Thanks..bad news for me..it was the sub that blew not the buzzing Onkyo..so the shop are replacing the sub and didnt replace the buzzing Onkyo..damn...

My only hope now is that my mother in law (who is refusing to install her sr905 due to her fear it will blow up like the previous 3*875s shes had) will swap my 606 for her 905!
post #2348 of 9462
Mine shows:



I do hear a buzz trought the sub and speakers at around volume 20 or even at 0. I disconnect the sub from the receiver and voila.

Got an idea of what should i check and also, what cable are you guys using? On both, speakers and Sub.
post #2349 of 9462
Hope this hasn't been asked a thousand times before:

Does the 606 allow to disable the OSD display?

The reason why I'm asking: My current Denon 1908 always shows an (very old-school and ugly) OSD whenever you go into the menu. And when it does, it replaces the video source that I'm currently watching (satellite stb or PS3, both connected via HDMI). This is completely useless since it would be no problem to navigate the AVR's menu using the front display, but there is no way to disable the OSD.

I found that the recent Yamahas (at least the 663 and 863) that are capable of displaying the OSD via HDMI have the same issue.

I would have no problem with an OSD at all, if it would be displayed as an overlay over the original video source. But this would obviously require that the AVR's video converter/scaler is active all the time, processing HDMI input sources instead of just passing them through. The new Harman Kardons do exactly this, and their overlaying OSD is pretty nice, but a scaler that is always active has some other disadvantages.

So again the question is, how is this situation on the 606?
post #2350 of 9462
hi, sorry for this question which may have been asked, but i am too tired to search through 79 pages.

i have been wanting to get this for a little while now, and was just curious if its possible to output a component connection through the HDMI output. It would making switching between devices much easier.
post #2351 of 9462
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Originally Posted by hendrix141 View Post

hi, sorry for this question which may have been asked, but i am too tired to search through 79 pages.

i have been wanting to get this for a little while now, and was just curious if its possible to output a component connection through the HDMI output. It would making switching between devices much easier.

Ofcourse. Although the video will probably get processed even if you put it on THROUGH. But as long as you don't upscale the video, you should get a good result none the less.
post #2352 of 9462
For what it is worth, I checked for the "Hidden Menu" and Firmware Version last night and got the following results. All button selections were from the receiver itself and not the remote (did not work).

The serial number of my unit is 1841029711 and I purchased it on 06/13/08.

Hidden Menu Results
UNKNOWN->_ _ _ _ _

Firmware Results
MAIN1.02/08414A

With the above firmware, I do not have the buzz/hum problem that others seen to have. Have turned the volume all the way to Max and have not heard anything I wasn't supposed to. Very happy with this receiver so far.

Now, for my Hidden Menu results. What the heck did I get? I pushed and held the "Display" button on the receiver for the required amount of time to get to where I did. Was I supposed to push something else to go to a different screen from there? I tried the Tone +/- buttons and that did nothing except change my tone settings.

Any ideas about the Hidden Menu results I got?

Thanks,

Steve
post #2353 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Old Deuteronomy View Post

Hope this hasn't been asked a thousand times before:

Does the 606 allow to disable the OSD display?

The reason why I'm asking: My current Denon 1908 always shows an (very old-school and ugly) OSD whenever you go into the menu. And when it does, it replaces the video source that I'm currently watching (satellite stb or PS3, both connected via HDMI). This is completely useless since it would be no problem to navigate the AVR's menu using the front display, but there is no way to disable the OSD.

I found that the recent Yamahas (at least the 663 and 863) that are capable of displaying the OSD via HDMI have the same issue.

I would have no problem with an OSD at all, if it would be displayed as an overlay over the original video source. But this would obviously require that the AVR's video converter/scaler is active all the time, processing HDMI input sources instead of just passing them through. The new Harman Kardons do exactly this, and their overlaying OSD is pretty nice, but a scaler that is always active has some other disadvantages.

So again the question is, how is this situation on the 606?

The setup menu replaces the video entirely. The only exception is when adjusting the audio delay setting - the menu allows you to temporarily restore the video to check for sound alignment with the video. Once you've done the check, you go back to the menu system.

You can make various audio adjustments on the fly using the audio button. This allows things like enabling nite mode, adjusting channel levels, etc. The video is not affected while doing this.
post #2354 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Thunderduck View Post

Now, for my Hidden Menu results. What the heck did I get? I pushed and held the "Display" button on the receiver for the required amount of time to get to where I did. Was I supposed to push something else to go to a different screen from there? I tried the Tone +/- buttons and that did nothing except change my tone settings.

Any ideas about the Hidden Menu results I got?

Thanks,

Steve

You only have a very short time to press the + and - buttons before the hidden menu disappears again.
post #2355 of 9462
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Originally Posted by drfruit View Post

You only have a very short time to press the + and - buttons before the hidden menu disappears again.

So, once I get this screen "UNKNOWN->_ _ _ _ _" I would then immediately press the + or - buttons to get where I want to go. Are these the Tone plus or minus buttons on the receiver?

Once I get to that area, will the selection stay on the screen long enough for me to do something or am I once again in a race against time?

Thank you very much for your help.
post #2356 of 9462
New PS3 firmware update released..anyone try it and see if it removes the buzz? i doubt it...but hey....
post #2357 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Thunderduck View Post

So, once I get this screen "UNKNOWN->_ _ _ _ _" I would then immediately press the + or - buttons to get where I want to go. Are these the Tone plus or minus buttons on the receiver?

Once I get to that area, will the selection stay on the screen long enough for me to do something or am I once again in a race against time?

Thank you very much for your help.

UNKNOWN probably refers to an inactive input/source. I get that when I turn on the Onkyo with all my other equipment turned off. You may have to change to another source or just play with it or wait until you get the info screen (MAIN...etc), then use the plus/minus buttons (yes, those next to Tone). You have to keep pressing them every second or so, or the hidden menu disappears. This makes it hard to write down the info unless you have a better memory than me.
post #2358 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Barry Royse View Post

Hi all, I have seen this question asked, but never an adequate answer, so forgive me if I've missed it. When I power up my system, the receiver switches from cab/sat input (correct) to game input. I have no devices mapped to game, and no tags associated with that mode. I have hdmi in and hdmi out, with all CEC controls enabled in both the receiver and the display. According to the manual, when the correct mode (cab/sat) is selected and has HDMI(auto) showing on the display, (it does), the receiver scans for an input signal. There is no signal associated with game mode. It's an annoyance more than a problem, but I'm hoping someone has a fix for it.

Thanks


Just to update, I called Onkyo support and a factory reset was suggested. Didn't fix the problem, so I called them back, and they told me to send it to an authorized service center because "there is a problem with it". So if anyone else has this problem, the only "fix" seems to be repair.
post #2359 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Barry Royse View Post

Hi all, I have seen this question asked, but never an adequate answer, so forgive me if I've missed it. When I power up my system, the receiver switches from cab/sat input (correct) to game input. I have no devices mapped to game, and no tags associated with that mode. I have hdmi in and hdmi out, with all CEC controls enabled in both the receiver and the display. According to the manual, when the correct mode (cab/sat) is selected and has HDMI(auto) showing on the display, (it does), the receiver scans for an input signal. There is no signal associated with game mode. It's an annoyance more than a problem, but I'm hoping someone has a fix for it.

Thanks

I had a similar problem when I had my 606, but only when I had the HDMI CEC controls set to "Enable". You might want to disable the CEC to see if that fixes the problem.
post #2360 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Bugs View Post

I had a similar problem when I had my 606, but only when I had the HDMI CEC controls set to "Enable". You might want to disable the CEC to see if that fixes the problem.

This sounds much more likely to me. There's only a 50/50 chance your receiver is at fault. I wouldn't go to all the trouble of sending your receiver to Onkyo unless you're positive they've identified this as a 606 problem and can tell you exactly what they plan to do to fix it. I'm guessing that if it is a 606 problem, it would require a firmware update to fix.
post #2361 of 9462
I know there was someone on this forum who sent their 606 to Onkyo and got it back. Did they fix the buzzing?

I dont know if I can go without it for 2 weeks.
post #2362 of 9462
Could some one please let me know if I can turn off the Video upconversion. And if so how. I have a feeling my samsung 51F did a much better job.

If I cant prevent upconversion I will have to return the unit.
post #2363 of 9462
I just realised that 606 will not upconvert if the source is HDMI. http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/...6_manual_e.pdf
(pg 102)

I have an HD-DVR that's connected to the TV via HDMI. What is happening to my SD channels ?? I would try and connect it via component today and look for differences.
post #2364 of 9462
hey guys,

i have a 606 hooked up with a PS3 via HDMI.

My TV( sam 67a750) says "MODE NOT SUPPORTED" when i switch to the DVD imput on the 606.

any ideas what could be wrong..

i have checked that HDMI 1 is selected and plugged into the back of the receiver. is there anything on the PS3 that i need to select so that video goes out of the HDMI port?

-- Chad
post #2365 of 9462
Has anyone managed to set up a FiOS remote to control the Onkyo 606? I tried all the Onkyo codes that listed in the FiOS remote materials and some would turn the unit on but not off; others would turn it off but not on. It would be more useful if I could do both

If you've succeeded, please post the input code that worked for you.

Thanks!
post #2366 of 9462
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Originally Posted by AceWriter View Post

Has anyone managed to set up a FiOS remote to control the Onkyo 606? I tried all the Onkyo codes that listed in the FiOS remote materials and some would turn the unit on but not off; others would turn it off but not on. It would be more useful if I could do both

If you've succeeded, please post the input code that worked for you.

Thanks!

Harmony
post #2367 of 9462
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Originally Posted by gogol View Post

I just realised that 606 will not upconvert if the source is HDMI. http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/...6_manual_e.pdf
(pg 102)

I have an HD-DVR that's connected to the TV via HDMI. What is happening to my SD channels ?? I would try and connect it via component today and look for differences.

Go into setup and under output, set it to "Through".

Hold Display for 3 secs when your cable box is off to get to the menu where you can adjust sharpness/saturation, etc.
post #2368 of 9462
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Originally Posted by floridarsxts7 View Post

hey guys,

i have a 606 hooked up with a PS3 via HDMI.

My TV( sam 67a750) says "MODE NOT SUPPORTED" when i switch to the DVD imput on the 606.

any ideas what could be wrong..

i have checked that HDMI 1 is selected and plugged into the back of the receiver. is there anything on the PS3 that i need to select so that video goes out of the HDMI port?

-- Chad

figured it out, bad HDMI cable

-- Chad
post #2369 of 9462
how do you hard reset the 606?

-- Chad
post #2370 of 9462
And there is good news and bad news.

First off: This is my second 606. The first returned to crutchfield for the buzz issue- this second one was sent into onkyo to see if they could fix it.

My setup- two polk monitor 70 in the front, a crap center channel. Everything runs through hdmi, apple tv, dvd, and xbox 360 to a panny. Its all hdmi.

The buzz: would show up every time a dolby digital source was used- no matter the device. If Audessy was turned off then the buzz would disappear.

The repair: Sent into onkyo about two weeks ago. Im not sure what they did (they suggested they did a hardware fix) but the firmware is now 1.03.

The result: Here is the bad news- it still buzzes! How horrible is that! I was about to through the thing out the window. I played around for awhile and remembered that some people were getting luck with turning off the dyanmic eq- so it tried this- success! There is no buzz now with audyssey engaged, a DD source, and dynamic eq off. So I guess its half fixed.

Conclusion- I'm not sure If I'm going to return it to crutchfield. Those HKs look pretty good. I'll have to think about it. BTW- The customer service at onkyo was good- but the thing is only half fixed.
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