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post #2461 of 9462
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Originally Posted by klemsaba View Post

What commands don't work? I haven't tried many commands but the most important ones work just fine with my Harmony 360 remote: switching inputs and volume.


I wasn't able to change volume even. And on the remote that came with the Onkyo 606 I had to select receiver repeatedly, which is what clued me in to why the 880 would not do anything. I couldn't tell you exactly which commands now as it was only on my system for one day before it was replaced by the original sweet Denon 1803. No signal from the components was a deal killer in itself that forced my hand in taking it off even sooner than I would have liked.
post #2462 of 9462
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/608onk606/

It got an outstanding review here, but less so at CNET. If it had a Sony logo on it at CNET, it probably would have been an 8.4.

Good review...

I did not really like how CNET reviewed it, they were complaining about no Phono input! WTF! I'm sure there are still few ppl that listen to phono. I am glad that there is no phono input its a waste of space IMO!
post #2463 of 9462
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Originally Posted by aydu View Post

I use a Harmony remote with my system and the 606 presents no problems or issues. I don't have commands entered as macros, just the setup from the Harmony database. Everything works like a charm.

Same here, Im using the harmony 550 and it works fine with my 606. In fact, overall I am please with this receiver. I have not had any of the problems that have been expressed on here like the buzzing or humming. It does run a little hot, but so did my other onkyo. I ran the audyssey test and I am impressed with the results after a bit of tweaking. I do have one question though.... Does anyone have any experience with the denon avr 789? I know there is a tread dedicated to it and the 1909, but no one is posting about the 789. I saw it at CC when I bought my 606 and I wondered if it would be better or pretty much the same as the 606. I know this is the onkyo thread, but any input/feedback on the 789 would be greatly appreciated. I ask this cause I know it new and I cant find any reviews of it anywhere.
post #2464 of 9462
Hi - Recently I bought an Onkyo 606 and a Mits 73835 RPTV to use with my PS3. They are connected together using HDMI 1.3a cables. and have run into a strange sizing issue on some sd dvd's (most dvd's are fine). this is the first time i have an HDMI input on my TV so maybe this is old news. basically the image only occupies about 1/4 of the screen. its centered, but has black space (about 1 foot) on each side and it has the correct aspect ratio. i tried to change the video ouput setting on the ps3, the hdmi output on the 606, but i either got the image to be even smaller, or it fills the entire width of the screen but still plenty of black space top/bottom (1 foot). a friend of mine tells me that its the fault of that particular dvd (The Edge). I find that hard to believe that with all the controls on these devices you can't adjust the size of the image to fit the screen. I saw a simililar issue at another persons house playing "Jaws" through a Sony BD player connected to some AVR and into a Sony flat panel. Similiar issue, a correct aspect ratio image, but it only filled about 1/4 -1/3 of the screen with significant black space surrounding all sides. At the time I figured it was some setting he had wrong (still do). Now that I am experiencing this issue, I am looking for help. Thx -yurij
post #2465 of 9462
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Originally Posted by NeilK View Post


Another serious issue I found was having to select the Receiver button on the remote in order to send commands to the receiver. This defeated using the Harmony 880 universal remote as each command would have to be entered as a macro pressing the receiver button first. A remote that comes with any unit should have that unit as its default and should not require selecting the unit each time you want to send a command to it.

Don't know what you're talking about having to push the receiver button before entering a command. I'm using a harmony remote with my 606, and everything works just fine on all my inputs.
post #2466 of 9462
I just bought a 606 for use in my new home theater in my house that is currently under construction. The receiver will be housed in an equipment closet and output via HDMI to my projector. I think I'll also want a small tv (~13" or smaller) to also be in the equipment closet so I can make adjustments w/o turning on the projector or so I can make adjustments while in the equipment closet..

Now for my question, does the 606 have the ability to output via HDMI and the composite simultaneously?
post #2467 of 9462
Okay, I'm ready to buy this receiver. What is everyones thought of this AVR on audio lag and buzzing??
post #2468 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

Okay, I'm ready to buy this receiver. What is everyones thought of this AVR on audio lag and buzzing??

Unless you're one of the unlucky few who gets a buzzing unit, there is no buzz and there is no audio lag on the 606.
post #2469 of 9462
I'm having an issue with my 606. On video upscaled over component (haven't tried anything over composite or s-video) after some time of watching the top portion of the picture becomes a bunch of garbled lines. Every time the amount differs but it's basically the same thing.

This doesn't happen with the item in question connected directly to the tv and switching to another device and then back to this one fixes the issue temporarily. Any advice? Should I just send it back to J&R?

After reading this thread entirely I'm thinking about just getting a different receiver entirely. Either a Denon AVR-2309CI or AVR-1909. Or perhaps someone else could recommend another receiver I haven't looked at.
post #2470 of 9462
Many receivers (and other devices) have a limited universal remote that you can also use for your tv or dvd player. The problem is that when you select a source, the remote assumes that you want to control that device, so you have to press Receiver to go back to controling your receiver. My Marantz SR5300 worked exactly the same way.

If you use a true universal remote like the Harmony, there is no need to first press Receiver, as the Harmony has a different way to determine which device you are controling. When you set up your Activities, you decide which device you want to use to control things like volume, channels etcetera. (Unless you are in Device mode.)
post #2471 of 9462
For the review at
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/608onk606/



how did UltimateAVmag get a green display on the 606. Mine's orange.
post #2472 of 9462
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Originally Posted by NineNineNine View Post



How did they get a green display on the 606. Mine's orange.

I think units with black cases have green displays and units with silver cases have orange displays.
post #2473 of 9462
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Originally Posted by grap3 View Post

I'm having an issue with my 606. On video upscaled over component (haven't tried anything over composite or s-video) after some time of watching the top portion of the picture becomes a bunch of garbled lines. Every time the amount differs but it's basically the same thing.

This doesn't happen with the item in question connected directly to the tv and switching to another device and then back to this one fixes the issue temporarily. Any advice? Should I just send it back to J&R?

After reading this thread entirely I'm thinking about just getting a different receiver entirely. Either a Denon AVR-2309CI or AVR-1909. Or perhaps someone else could recommend another receiver I haven't looked at.

Interesting. I have seen this issue (at least it sounds like the exact same issue) several times, but only when watching TV: the cable box is the only component connection, the BD/HD and DVD players are HDMI. I found turning off and on the cable box made the problem go away, and had assumed the problem was with the cable box. There were other issues with that cable box: I suspect it took minor damage from a nearby lightning strike or something, which made it "flaky", for lack of a technical term...

I upgraded to a HD DVR last week, and haven't noticed the issue since, but it was sporadic anyway - usually only once a week. I will also be connecting the new DVR via HDMI once I get around to it - can't be bothered to fiddle with the system right now.

But maybe I'll leave the component connections for a while and see if it happens again with my new hardware, in which case the receiver becomes suspect.

shinksma
post #2474 of 9462
One more question. Can you apply post processing on LPCM??
post #2475 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

One more question. Can you apply post processing on LPCM??

You mean like PLxII to a 5.1 source to 7.1, or other surround modes on 2-ch audio, etc? Yep, the 606 supports that for LPCM (and bitstreamed, AFAIK) audio.

If you didn't mean that, then what did you mean?

shinksma
post #2476 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

Okay, I'm ready to buy this receiver. What is everyones thought of this AVR on audio lag and buzzing??

I've been too busy to play any music games lately, but when watching TV/movies, I think the audio lag is pretty minimal. 1-2 frames at most.
post #2477 of 9462
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

You mean like PLxII to a 5.1 source to 7.1, or other surround modes on 2-ch audio, etc? Yep, the 606 supports that for LPCM (and bitstreamed, AFAIK) audio.

If you didn't mean that, then what did you mean?

shinksma


like applying DSP soundsettings. My current sony only lets me do direct, my friends yamaha allows the LPCM to be fed post processed.
post #2478 of 9462
I have an onkyo 604, can anyone tell me how to reduce the base on the front speakers?

I have the infinity 362b connected to it and i need to reduce the bass cos i live in an apartment.

Thanks
Anand
post #2479 of 9462
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I'm having an issue with my 606. On video upscaled over component (haven't tried anything over composite or s-video) after some time of watching the top portion of the picture becomes a bunch of garbled lines. Every time the amount differs but it's basically the same thing.

This doesn't happen with the item in question connected directly to the tv and switching to another device and then back to this one fixes the issue temporarily. Any advice? Should I just send it back to J&R?

After reading this thread entirely I'm thinking about just getting a different receiver entirely. Either a Denon AVR-2309CI or AVR-1909. Or perhaps someone else could recommend another receiver I haven't looked at.

Mine used to do this at various times as well. When I first installed my unit it was fine and did not do it at all. Then after a couple weeks I unhooked all the cables and rewired the system, soon after I was getting the exact same issue you are describing. Annoying as all hell, I to had to switch inputs to get it to go away. Anyways, I finally traced it down to the HDMI cable that was hooked up to the "out" on the 606 to my Samsung DLP. I knew that particular cable was old, and a first generation HDMI. I replaced it with a new 1.3a version cable and the issue has never returned. It seems to me you might be able to fix it by reseating your HDMI out on each end (606/TV) if that doesnt do it try a different HDMI cable.
post #2480 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

One more question. Can you apply post processing on LPCM??

Yes you can apply post processing to LPCM only if the sample rates are < 48khz. Anything above and the processor can't handle it, such as SACD. As far as I know this is not a limitation for the Denon 1909

This includes sound modes AND Audyssey EQ.
post #2481 of 9462
Has anyone bought from Crutchfield or some place within the last week? I am looking to pick one up and want to see if those B serial numbers are starting to show up yet.
post #2482 of 9462
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

Interesting. I have seen this issue (at least it sounds like the exact same issue) several times, but only when watching TV: the cable box is the only component connection, the BD/HD and DVD players are HDMI. I found turning off and on the cable box made the problem go away, and had assumed the problem was with the cable box. There were other issues with that cable box: I suspect it took minor damage from a nearby lightning strike or something, which made it "flaky", for lack of a technical term...

Here are two images with the issue:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/grap3/P1030850.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/grap3/P1030852.jpg
post #2483 of 9462
i heard u can't get 7.1 dts-hd and true hd to pass through the onkyo 606 properly

i will probably have a 5.1 setup at first would like to move on to a 7.1 eventually... anyways i heard the yamaha 663 does this properly, and also the difference between bitstream and pcm is?

i have a ps3 currently and i want to get the high def sound in 7.1 and pass a signal through a receiver (1080p) that doesn't get destroyed or tampered w/ by the receiver...

cnet claims this receiver has poor video processing and movies sound better than music

this throws me off completely and makes
post #2484 of 9462
Hi everyone! I've been reading through this thread in the hopes of finding a post that resolves my issue, but no luck.

My issue is with the video display. All audio works perfectly, but video doesn't display for my DVD and Satellite TV. I tried various settings and read through the manual twice, but found no resolution. Here's my set-up:

Satellite connected using HDMI - audio works, but no video
XBox connected using HDMI - audio and video work
DVD connected using Component - audio works, but no video
Output to TV is HDMI to DVI (1.3b technology)

All receiver settings have been triple checked using the manual. In addition, my OSD has never appeared. I wonder if the issues with my Satellite and DVD are related to the OSD? Furthermore, I tried connecting the output to the TV with Component video. In that scenario, the XBox and Satellite didn't work but the DVD did.

Any help would be welcome!
post #2485 of 9462
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Originally Posted by The Bruiser View Post

i heard u can't get 7.1 dts-hd and true hd to pass through the onkyo 606 properly

i will probably have a 5.1 setup at first would like to move on to a 7.1 eventually... anyways i heard the yamaha 663 does this properly, and also the difference between bitstream and pcm is?

i have a ps3 currently and i want to get the high def sound in 7.1 and pass a signal through a receiver (1080p) that doesn't get destroyed or tampered w/ by the receiver...

cnet claims this receiver has poor video processing and movies sound better than music

this throws me off completely and makes

I think you need to do some more reading on the matter. The 606 has NO problems with either a 5.1 or 7.1 setup for ANY of the HD codecs (trueHD DTS-HD) from bitstream capable players. Since your PS3 cannot bitstream HD codecs anyway, it will pass these along as LPCM. So essentially you're not even using the (built-in) advanced codecs in the 606 , but maybe someday down the road you will, just not with the PS3.

Read up on the processing a bit more. The 606 "video processing" abilities are ONLY for component, Svideo and component inputs. Anything HDMI (like your PS3) gets passed through untouched, so you will NOT get a loss of picture quality.
post #2486 of 9462
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Originally Posted by damon479 View Post

Hi everyone! I've been reading through this thread in the hopes of finding a post that resolves my issue, but no luck.

My issue is with the video display. All audio works perfectly, but video doesn't display for my DVD and Satellite TV. I tried various settings and read through the manual twice, but found no resolution. Here's my set-up:

Satellite connected using HDMI - audio works, but no video
XBox connected using HDMI - audio and video work
DVD connected using Component - audio works, but no video
Output to TV is HDMI to DVI (1.3b technology)

All receiver settings have been triple checked using the manual. In addition, my OSD has never appeared. I wonder if the issues with my Satellite and DVD are related to the OSD? Furthermore, I tried connecting the output to the TV with Component video. In that scenario, the XBox and Satellite didn't work but the DVD did.

Any help would be welcome!

Well thats a weird one. Since your xbox is showing a picture, I'm going to assume the connection from the 606 to your TV works just fine. When you talk about OSD, are you talking about things like volume control, or the 606 menu system? Keep in mind the volume OSD will not appear with HDMI.

I'm assuming you've gone through and setup your inputs properly by hitting menu, then input Assign, and selecting HDMI X for cable box and Component X for DVD. Make sure those are correct because it sounds like they're not. Just a guess.
post #2487 of 9462
I dont see the CNET review as negative at all. In fact they chose the 606 as the best receiver for under $500

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-home-au...vices/?tag=dir
post #2488 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Keep in mind the volume OSD will not appear with HDMI.

I'm assuming you've gone through and setup your inputs properly by hitting menu, then input Assign, and selecting HDMI X for cable box and Component X for DVD. Make sure those are correct because it sounds like they're not. Just a guess.

That answers the issue with the OSD As for the setup, I've gone through the setup several times and assigned all inputs properly. I've checked this countless times as I've been pulling my hair out over the issue all day...
post #2489 of 9462
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Originally Posted by damon479 View Post

That answers the issue with the OSD As for the setup, I've gone through the setup several times and assigned all inputs properly. I've checked this countless times as I've been pulling my hair out over the issue all day...

I wonder of your conversion from HDMI to DVI for your TV is doing this. I assume your TV doesn't have HDMI inputs? Doubtful, but i'm not 100%

Other than checking to make sure your sources are configured to output ok, I'm not sure what else to check.

Are you able to see the 606's blue menu system on your tv when you press setup on the remote?
post #2490 of 9462
grap3,

Thats what mine was doing, exactly.
It was only doing that when I was watching my HD cable box that is hooked up via component cables. Yes, turning on/off the cable box would fix it for a short while, as would switching to another input on the 606 then back to the original. It would inevitably always return at random times. I did not make any other changes to my HD box or the 606 other than replacing that HDMI cable and as I stated in my case it has never returned. I hope you figure it out as I know its pretty frustrating...
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