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post #2551 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Check out the Audyssey thread. You want to DISABLE the built in crossover physically on the sub, or set it to 120 if you can't.

Then run Audyssey and go to "speaker setup" and change the LPF to 120hz.

ah, gotcha. thanks for the info.
post #2552 of 9462
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Originally Posted by ThatsNotPudding View Post

One more point in favor of the black version. Seriously, I do not understand why anyone would choose their A/V equipment to be silver instead of black; silver just looks...old. Maybe all these other companies had to offer styles to match Motorola's DVR boxes (only in silver, right?).

Now, even more chilling is that some companies (even Onkyo, IIRC) are offering GOLD toned equipment - apparently to help keep your pimp hand strong.

Seriously, I do not understand why anyone would be so narrow-minded as to not respect the fact that not everyone's preference is the same. Personally, I like a mix. I have some black, some silver and even a DVD recorder/VCR that's gunmetal grey. All one color is boring to me but I realize that some prefer monotone.
post #2553 of 9462
All my components, HTPC, receiver (606), dish receiver are silver except PS3 is black. My rack is black and they match very well.
post #2554 of 9462
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Originally Posted by klemsaba View Post

When playing videos on my 360 downloaded from Marketplace it plays them in 2.0 PCM audio which sucks on the Onkyo compared to my Yamaha it replaced. This has me concerned more than anything. Any ideas on this problem? DVDs and HD-DVDs play fine and sound great on the 360.

Hey! I'm quoting myself!

I think I figured out what is going on. A lot of stuff on Marketplace is only 2.0 sound. I did manage to download an old Halo 3 trailer that was in Dolby Digital and the Onkyo responded appropriately. I changed my 'mad' icon to a 'confused' icon because it is still strange but I guess it is a Microsoft issue more than an Onkyo issue. I just never remembered my Yamaha having this issue.

Luckily I still don't think I'm hearing the infamous 'buzz' that others are hearing, or at least not to the degree others are hearing it.

I popped a DVD in the PS3 and noticed that the overall volume is lower than on Blu-ray discs. Not much but I had to increase my default volume up about 5 notches to get the same level. The PS3 is sending out PCM signals to the Onkyo.
post #2555 of 9462
I am really confused about the audyssey. Everyone says how great the audyssey is on the onkyo 606,but why would you change its settings. the audyssey listed my 4 polk r50's as full range, my polk csi3 as full range, my surround backs as 150hz. to old aiwa speakers i had from a long time ago and lpf of lfe at 80hz. and double bass as "on".old aiwa 150watt sub with volume knob and crossover frequency settings. phase switch of normal and reverse i believe.

My understanding from what i have been reading is that all speakers should be set to 80hz, and subwoofer to 120hz in the onkyo settings. what is the difference between the full it is giving me and setting it to 80 hz? any help is greatly appreciated.
post #2556 of 9462
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Originally Posted by kwaidonjin View Post

I am really confused about the audyssey. Everyone says how great the audyssey is on the onkyo 606,but why would you change its settings. the audyssey listed my 4 polk r50's as full range, my polk csi3 as full range, my surround backs as 150hz. to old aiwa speakers i had from a long time ago and lpf of lfe at 80hz. and double bass as "on".old aiwa 150watt sub with volume knob and crossover frequency settings. phase switch of normal and reverse i believe.

My understanding from what i have been reading is that all speakers should be set to 80hz, and subwoofer to 120hz in the onkyo settings. what is the difference between the full it is giving me and setting it to 80 hz? any help is greatly appreciated.

Audyssey gave me a similar setting with my Polk Rti4s. I changed from the full range for my fronts and center (CSi3) to 100 hz, and surround to 80 hz. Sub at 100hz (audyssey setting). If you want to get the best sound from your center and front, you would want most of your bass to be handles by your sub, so your fronts and center would have less load to handle, thus giving you more "clear" mid-range sounds. I wanted my surround back to handle little more bass so I lowered it to 80hz. I'm still tweaking them, so it's work in progress. I did read here that 80 hz cross is good point to crossover, but from Chris on the Audyssey forum, he suggested 100 hz cross for the sub.

Test your system and see which setting you prefer.
post #2557 of 9462
O.K. Kanon thanks for your help i will try that now. I notice the dialogue on my csi3 is not as clear as it was on my old receiver. What does the full range mean anyway?
post #2558 of 9462
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Originally Posted by kwaidonjin View Post

O.K. Kanon thanks for your help i will try that now. I notice the dialogue on my csi3 is not as clear as it was on my old receiver. What does the full range mean anyway?

I think that is similar to Large setting on other receivers, meaning that audyssey detected that your speakers are large and can handle low frequencies (bass). That's why double bass came on when you did your audyssey. i think.
post #2559 of 9462
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Originally Posted by kanon_101 View Post

I think that is similar to Large setting on other receivers, meaning that audyssey detected that your speakers are large and can handle low frequencies (bass). That's why double bass came on when you did your audyssey. i think.

Even though your front speakers can handle low frequencies, your entire system will be MUCH more efficient if you cross them over ~80hz. That way your speakers AND receiver don't have to struggle pushing out bass, which is a huge power hog. Let the sub (and its built in amp) handle the hard work because thats it's specialty.

This way your speakers can play louder and more accurate with less distortion because its focusing on the mid-bass which it does best, and at the same time reduces a huge load on the receiver.
post #2560 of 9462
I just recently bought a TX SR 604. I have connected my cable box and my dvd without any issues but my WII is giving me some trouble. I am connecting it through composite video. I connected it to Video1 input and then set the input to video1, I only hear the sound but get no picture. Between my tv and the receiver i have HDMI and Component connection. I believe this system does not do up conversion through HDMI.
Please let me know if i also need composite between the receive and the Tv.

Thanks
Anand
post #2561 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Even though your front speakers can handle low frequencies, your entire system will be MUCH more efficient if you cross them over ~80hz. That way your speakers AND receiver don't have to struggle pushing out bass, which is a huge power hog. Let the sub (and its built in amp) handle the hard work because thats it's specialty.

This way your speakers can play louder and more accurate with less distortion because its focusing on the mid-bass which it does best, and at the same time reduces a huge load on the receiver.

or just get better speakers?
post #2562 of 9462
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Originally Posted by rangaswamy View Post

I just recently bought a TX SR 604. I have connected my cable box and my dvd without any issues but my WII is giving me some trouble. I am connecting it through composite video. I connected it to Video1 input and then set the input to video1, I only hear the sound but get no picture. Between my tv and the receiver i have HDMI and Component connection. I believe this system does not do up conversion through HDMI.
Please let me know if i also need composite between the receive and the Tv.

Thanks
Anand

is there a 604 owneers thread..?

looks like according to
http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?cl...m=TX-SR604&p=i
that one does not have upscaling.. so that means you will have to plug composite out on the back of your reciver and plug that into your tv as well as the hdmi
post #2563 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Buckeye911 View Post

Seriously, I do not understand why anyone would be so narrow-minded as to not respect the fact that not everyone's preference is the same. Personally, I like a mix. I have some black, some silver and even a DVD recorder/VCR that's gunmetal grey. All one color is boring to me but I realize that some prefer monotone.

hahah who would want gold?ur stuff would look sooo tackyy
post #2564 of 9462
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Originally Posted by NKrader View Post

hahah who would want gold?ur stuff would look sooo tackyy

Since it is available, there must be some market out there. I suspect in the right set-up, the gold finish could look quite nice. Some people find the Black and Silvers that are so de rigueur around here to be pedestrian, and want something other than what the commoners want.

Personally, I prefer black AV components. But not enough to make such a big deal out of it, or to not procure a device because it was only available in silver.

And making fun of a color choice with little punctuation, no capitalization, and poor spelling and grammar, is, well, tacky. IMHO.

shinksma
post #2565 of 9462
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Originally Posted by NKrader View Post

is there a 604 owneers thread..?

looks like according to
http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?cl...m=TX-SR604&p=i
that one does not have upscaling.. so that means you will have to plug component out on the back of your reciver and plug that into your tv as well as the hdmi

FYI, i already have component and HDMI, do i also need composite?

AR
post #2566 of 9462
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Originally Posted by rangaswamy View Post

FYI, i already have component and HDMI, do i also need composite?

AR

im guessing yes thats why i upgraded to the 606 over the 506 because i only have to have one cable running to the monitor..

anyone else? im pretty sure that if your have a signal comming in one way on that reciver you have to have it going out the same way..

-Nick
post #2567 of 9462
I just picked up an external 2 channel amp for a good price. I plan on setting up for 2 channel music down the road. However I was wondering....

Question: is there ANY way I can use the external amp to drive my 2 front speakers for the time being? I know the 606 doesn't have pre-amps but perhaps using the Zone 2 outputs??
post #2568 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

I just picked up an external 2 channel amp for a good price. I plan on setting up for 2 channel music down the road. However I was wondering....

Question: is there ANY way I can use the external amp to drive my 2 front speakers for the time being? I know the 606 doesn't have pre-amps but perhaps using the Zone 2 outputs??

There's no way to use an external amp for the front speakers with this receiver. Zone 2 only plays analog inputs and is usually a few milliseconds off from the main zone.
post #2569 of 9462
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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

There's no way to use an external amp for the front speakers with this receiver. Zone 2 only plays analog inputs and is usually a few milliseconds off from the main zone.

Yeah just read the manual. the zone 2 outputs are meant to be connected to another pre-amp or integrated amp, so the volume is fixed.

I was hoping to use the amp for 2 channel music while leveraging the 606 as a preamp. Guess this won't happen. Bummer.
post #2570 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Even though your front speakers can handle low frequencies, your entire system will be MUCH more efficient if you cross them over ~80hz. That way your speakers AND receiver don't have to struggle pushing out bass, which is a huge power hog. Let the sub (and its built in amp) handle the hard work because thats it's specialty.

This way your speakers can play louder and more accurate with less distortion because its focusing on the mid-bass which it does best, and at the same time reduces a huge load on the receiver.

so what should my subwoofer setting be? I have it at 120hz. in the onkyo setup. On my sub it goes from 50hz to 150 hz. what would be a good setting to put that at? i have my volume set at half and the audyssey set it at -15db. Any help is greatly appreciated.....
post #2571 of 9462
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Originally Posted by kwaidonjin View Post

so what should my subwoofer setting be? I have it at 120hz. in the onkyo setup. On my sub it goes from 50hz to 150 hz. what would be a good setting to put that at? i have my volume set at half and the audyssey set it at -15db. Any help is greatly appreciated.....

120hz sounds a little high too me.. what speakers and sub are you running and as for volume thats all up too your ears becuase audyssey sets mine way way way too loud..
post #2572 of 9462
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Originally Posted by NKrader View Post

120hz sounds a little high too me.. what speakers and sub are you running and as for volume thats all up too your ears becuase audyssey sets mine way way way too loud..

I have 4 polk r 50's for surround a polk csi3 for center two old aiwa for surround back hidden from view and an old klh sub( which will be my next upgrade). I thought it was a 150 watt but it is a 95 watt. i had posted before that it was an aiwa sub, but it is klh.
post #2573 of 9462
Set the LPF of LFE to 120hz no matter what, otherwise you're going to miss some of the bass thats being encoded in the movie.

Set the fronts to 80hz as a starting point. Set the rears to >80hz if they're smaller than the fronts.
post #2574 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Set the LPF of LFE to 120hz no matter what, otherwise you're going to miss some of the bass thats being encoded in the movie.

Set the fronts to 80hz as a starting point. Set the rears to >80hz if they're smaller than the fronts.

bass at 120hz?
post #2575 of 9462
Hi guys, this is driving me nuts.

Got my Onkyo 606 set up with my Tosh HD-A1. When trying to play a disc with DDplus I keep getting pcm on the Onkyo's display. Cant get it to decode plus no matter what I do.

I have the A1's setting to output HDMI bitstream but still all I get is pcm. Is there something else I should do. The onkyo's sound settings appear ok as it outputs all codecs correctly with my Panasonic BD30.

Thanks
post #2576 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Steve V View Post

Hi guys, this is driving me nuts.

Got my Onkyo 606 set up with my Tosh HD-A1. When trying to play a disc with DDplus I keep getting pcm on the Onkyo's display. Cant get it to decode plus no matter what I do.

I have the A1's setting to output HDMI bitstream but still all I get is pcm. Is there something else I should do. The onkyo's sound settings appear ok as it outputs all codecs correctly with my Panasonic BD30.

Thanks

The A1 can't transmit DD+ as bitstream. You should have Digital Out HDMI set to Auto on your A1. It will bitstream the codecs it can and decode the rest to PCM.
post #2577 of 9462
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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

The A1 can't transmit DD+ as bitstream. You should have Digital Out HDMI set to Auto on your A1. It will bitstream the codecs it can and decode the rest to PCM.

Thanks heaps Kplex. I will check the settings.

Steve
post #2578 of 9462
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Originally Posted by ThatsNotPudding View Post

One more point in favor of the black version. Seriously, I do not understand why anyone would choose their A/V equipment to be silver instead of black; silver just looks...old. Maybe all these other companies had to offer styles to match Motorola's DVR boxes (only in silver, right?).

Now, even more chilling is that some companies (even Onkyo, IIRC) are offering GOLD toned equipment - apparently to help keep your pimp hand strong.

I have a silver 606. I bought it for the following reasons:

1. I didn't particularly like the way the styling of the 606 looked in black.

2. My cable DVR is silver with amber display lights. The 606 matches both the color of the unit and the display pretty well.

3. All my other components are black, so this gave a match to the DVR.

4. Most important - Wife liked the silver more than the black. Getting a comment like "oh, that's pretty" about an audio component is much better than "you're buying another black box?".

Albert Einstein wore the same outfit every day - suit, shirt, tie, shoes sox. Many argue that he was the smartest guy ever, but most of us go for some more variety. Same with receivers.
post #2579 of 9462
Can you rename inputs on this?? I don't seem to see it in the manual.
post #2580 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

Can you rename inputs on this?? I don't seem to see it in the manual.

No, that is one feature of the higher-end Onkyos that has not migrated to the 606.

Maybe next year's 607?

shinksma
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