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post #4981 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Scmedic View Post

Hey guys... Ran Audyssey after moving into the new home... Have a 2-tower/center/sub setup with the sub behind the couch.. Having a hard time with the dialog being drowned out by the rest of the sound.. Especially during The Dark Knight.. Suggestions? Sorry if this is dumb, I'm a bit new to this..


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Originally Posted by Jim Shaffer View Post

My main speakers always drown out the center on loud movies. The only solution I've found is to permanently set the center up 3 or 4 dB. (One of these days I'll try setting the mains down a few dB instead, since sometimes I still have to turn the volume down when a movie really gets loud.) But it seriously annoys me that Audyssey is supposed to be taking care of equalizing everything -- the volume, the tone, and the delays -- yet it consistently fails on this issue. I wonder if the people mixing the sound for movies are assuming that everyone will be listening at theater volume in their homes, because the higher I turn the volume the less the disparity seems to be (even with Dynamic EQ and Cinema Filter both on) -- but I can't listen to it that loud most of the time.


I have the same problem with Dark Knight. Also, when watching NFL game yesterday (NE vs. Oakland) my sound was going crazy between dialogue and NFL music. Hopefully increasing the db on center will help. I am constantly reaching for the remote.
post #4982 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Brandon C. View Post

...Could you elaborate possibly on just how to do the grounding techniques you have mentioned I would like to give them a try. What is an isolation transformer?...

To ground a chassis of any component you simply find a convenient hold-down screw (typically on the back) and attach a wire of sufficient gauge to it... then you can attach the other end to a common grounding source. Chassis grounds are often used as a return path for the electronics in a component but unfortunately there may be a difference in potential between chassis of various components. Connecting chassis grounds together is one way to reduce or eliminate potential differences between components which can otherwise sometimes result in humming.

Earth ground is exactly what it sounds like... using the earth as an infinite electrical charge sink. A stake (often copper or aluminum) is driven deep into the earth and electrical wires are connected to it most often to allow static charges or lightening's high-voltages and any induced currents to discharge into the earth. The ground at your electrical box main as well as your plumbing should be attached to this earth ground. Any roof antennas should likewise have an earth ground. So one way to make sure your shielding (on any coax cable entering into your house) is grounded is to pass it through a simple grounding block (a couple bucks from Radio Shack) which in turn is grounded to a copper rod driven into the ground.


Here is a definition of Isolation Transformer from Wikipedia: "An isolation transformer is a transformer, often with symmetrical windings, which is used to decouple two circuits. An isolation transformer allows an AC signal or power to be taken from one device and fed into another without electrically connecting the two circuits. Isolation transformers block transmission of DC signals from one circuit to the other, but allow AC signals to pass. They also block interference caused by ground loops."

I suggest you Google the terms "hum and buzz" and "Isolation Transformer" and read up on why sometimes coax cable from an outside source would need to be isolated from your receiver.

Here is a good starter article for you to read http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/co...m-hum-and-buzz Good Luck... hope I've helped some.
post #4983 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Gaelinic View Post

Hello,

I'm fairly new to audio and I'm not that technical. I have a Panasonic plasma 42" TH-42PZ77U. I got passed the meltdown a couple weeks ago through the warranty. I also have a Blue ray DMP-BD30k.

I bought the Yamaha YHT 5.1 last year. The user manual reads that the HDMI inputs in the receiver do not run sound. Instead, the receiver just passes the sound directly to the TV. It does not pull the sound out. Three different guys at Best Buy assured me that the receiver played audio through HDMI "because HMDI cables carry sound."

But, I came acorss the ONKYO TX-SR606 Black 7.1 Channel Receiver today. It reads that it has 4 HDMI inputs and converts the various audio/video inputs and pushes through the HDMI output. The only flaw I see is that one reviewer posted that the subwoofer pops when the receiver on or off.

Will this receiver give me 1080p for my Blu-ray player, Xbox 360, and Comcast cable?

Also, is the ONKYO TX-SR606 Black 7.1 a good deal at $350 with free shipping? I need answers tonight by 10 pm.

Thanks.

Gaelinic

The 606 will pass 1080P as output it will not upscale HDMI to 1080P (pass through). It will upscale video, Svideo, component to 1080I using HDMI out.
I don't think your Comcast cable is capable of 1080P output

As far as a deal goes here's one of the best.(tax and shipping included) A very reliable vendor
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...kyo-tx-sr606-b
post #4984 of 9416
Thanks for the explanation, I guess im gonna order one of those isolators and see what happens. I got my fingers crossed cause I know it has to have something to do the dishnetwork side of things seeing how everything else works properly with no noise. Last question and it may seem dumb but here it goes do I need two isolators or just one. My sattilite cable comes through my wall as one cable then there is a y splitter type metal box with two cables coming out and going into the vip722 box. I take it one is for hd and one for sd channels of sattelite? Should I jut place the isolator before the splitter or use one on each cable after the splitter?
post #4985 of 9416
Newegg just had it for $290 shipped...I just checked and they are now out of stock.
post #4986 of 9416
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Originally Posted by filmfanatic24 View Post

Hello all. New 606 user and I have a question. Here is my set up:

Onkyo TX-SR606
PS3
Scientific Atlantica Explorer 8300HD
Samsung LCD LN52A550


Both of these are going to the receiver via HDMI and then back out to the TV using HDMI. I have the receiver set on Pass Through, everything appears to be working fine.

My only question is that it seems like now when I watch either the DVR or the PS3 there is a strange visual glitch. It happens when someone is on the TV wearing a tie (think the talking heads on CNN or ESPN) or, like when I watched The Dark Knight in Blu-Ray the other night) when it is a long shot of buildings with a lot of windows. It appears as though the lines are moving even though the subject is stationary. I did not notice this before hand so I'm assuming that this is something that the receiver is doing.

I could probably go direct to the TV with HDMI and then to the receiver with Optical but I can't do that with the PS3 because I want the True HD sound.

Any thoughts on what could be causing this problem? Thanks in advance!

Concerning the Dark Knight and the building, I saw the same thing while watching it with a Panasonic BD35 hooked up to my 606...didnt think anything of it. I am going to hook it up directly to my TV and see if it changes.
post #4987 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Scmedic View Post

Hey guys... Ran Audyssey after moving into the new home... Have a 2-tower/center/sub setup with the sub behind the couch.. Having a hard time with the dialog being drowned out by the rest of the sound.. Especially during The Dark Knight.. Suggestions? Sorry if this is dumb, I'm a bit new to this..

You can use the Audio button on your Remote to increase the volume of the center speaker.
post #4988 of 9416
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Originally Posted by DrewB View Post

Newegg just had it for $290 shipped...I just checked and they are now out of stock.

Better yet if you can handle a Silver one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16882120065R
post #4989 of 9416
So, my nice new 606 worked beautifully for about 2 weeks. Then one day I turn it on and it locks up. I go through all the troubleshooting and after talking to Onkyo they tell me to take it to the local authorized warranty repair location. I bring it in and the person who checks it in says

"Oh. Onkyo 600 series. We get a lot of those in here."

THe 606 gets great reviews here and pretty much everywhere else. That one statement though ... that worries me.
post #4990 of 9416
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Originally Posted by BryanP1968 View Post

So, my nice new 606 worked beautifully for about 2 weeks. Then one day I turn it on and it locks up. I go through all the troubleshooting and after talking to Onkyo they tell me to take it to the local authorized warranty repair location. I bring it in and the person who checks it in says

"Oh. Onkyo 600 series. We get a lot of those in here."

THe 606 gets great reviews here and pretty much everywhere else. That one statement though ... that worries me.

I don't think that's a trade mark, my Onkyo 7.1 is 4 years old hasn't missed a beat.
post #4991 of 9416
I advanced-searched this thread several times to see if my question has been discussed, and could not find it (search results were multiple pages, too).

I'm using my PS3 as my source component via HDMI for BDs and DVDs, thus all signals are output as PCM. Therefore I am refering to the "listening mode" table on 'Analog and PCM Sources' on page 58.

Question #1 - are BDs output as 7.1 192kHZ, or 7.1 96kHZ? Not sure.

Question #2 - on page 58, "Analog and PCM Sources", I am assuming that the last 6 columns on the right, under the upper heading 'Multichannel' are all PCM sources. Manual doesn't clearly display this. Assuming this is true, why does the manual indicate 'game' multich listening mode is available for a multich 176.4/192kHz source format, when 'music' multich and 'movie/tv' multich are not? I wonder if that's a typo?

If it is not a typo, and BDs are 192kHZ, that would mean I would always want to listen to BDs (whether watching a BD movie or playing a PS3 BD game) in 'game' multich. This would also imply that 'game' multich listening mode is different than 'music' multich or 'movie/tv' multich.

Any thoughts on this? Thanks.
post #4992 of 9416
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Originally Posted by BryanP1968 View Post

So, my nice new 606 worked beautifully for about 2 weeks. Then one day I turn it on and it locks up. I go through all the troubleshooting and after talking to Onkyo they tell me to take it to the local authorized warranty repair location. I bring it in and the person who checks it in says

"Oh. Onkyo 600 series. We get a lot of those in here."

THe 606 gets great reviews here and pretty much everywhere else. That one statement though ... that worries me.

I think Onkyo has occasionally a quality control issue. My first 606 went back to the shop for repairs after two weeks as well. Basically it overheated when the DSP had to do much processing, so e.g. in case of DD 5.1 decoding, and went into protection mode (shutdown to standby).

I got a new unit back, and so far it's working perfectly for 3 months. No overheating issues, great quality.

If I forget about the initial issues, the 606 is great value for money.
post #4993 of 9416
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Originally Posted by loekf View Post

I think Onkyo has occasionally a quality control issue. My first 606 went back to the shop for repairs after two weeks as well. Basically it overheated when the DSP had to do much processing, so e.g. in case of DD 5.1 decoding, and went into protection mode (shutdown to standby).

I got a new unit back, and so far it's working perfectly for 3 months. No overheating issues, great quality.

If I forget about the initial issues, the 606 is great value for money.

That sounds very much like what mine was doing. Hopefully they can fix it and that will take care of the problem.
post #4994 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Brandon C. View Post

Thanks for the explanation, I guess im gonna order one of those isolators and see what happens. I got my fingers crossed cause I know it has to have something to do the dishnetwork side of things seeing how everything else works properly with no noise. Last question and it may seem dumb but here it goes do I need two isolators or just one. My sattilite cable comes through my wall as one cable then there is a y splitter type metal box with two cables coming out and going into the vip722 box. I take it one is for hd and one for sd channels of sattelite? Should I jut place the isolator before the splitter or use one on each cable after the splitter?

Remember I've got the Vip 612 and you have the Vip 722... where both units have two tuners but only the 722 will send it to two TVs. The two cables going to my 612 have the same signals they are just feeding two separate tuners... I'm assuming its the same with the 722, therefore you should only need one isolation transformer to attach before the splitter (talk to/phone a Dish technician before you purchase to be sure you are getting the right transformer). You need to know that I am NOT an electrical engineer but rather just some guy who's been around audio and video stuff for a long time... to be clear, this is the logic I'm using: You don't have the problem with any component other than the 722, correct? You've replace the 606 at some point and the 722 at some point as well, correct? (the odds of getting two in a row with the exact same problem when no one else seems to have experienced it, is astronomical) You haven't mentioned whether the level of the 'sound' is linked to the 606 volume control but I'm guessing not. So, everything points to something in the line going to the 722... that's why my gut tells me its a problem with the installation ...either equipment or wiring is at fault. Good Luck...
post #4995 of 9416
Ok yesterday I finally heard what you guys are talking about, I closed all windows disconnected battery backups etc, and turned on my BD5K with the volume at -50 sure enough you can hear the hum when the BD player boots up. Turning the unit off and switching back and forth to different inputs had no effect either. Turning off both units has no effect either.

After scrutinizing over the hum/buzz trying to figure out why I didn't hear this before. I realized a week ago the low hum was actually coming from the BD player, a couple of days ago I was thinking it was the disc causing the hum when in any movie menu, but when you start the movie it went away. So yesterday I found out it wasn't the disc/player resonating after fiddling with all the EQ controls etc it did NOTHING DynamicEQ is not the culprit.

So after trying to kill the buzz with the tinkering which had no effect, remember when I said it happens in the movie menus or when the BD palyer just boots up but didn't hear after the movie was being played. So I load up my import of Fly Boys and with the volume at -40 I could faintly hear a hum so I stopped the movie and play it again and guess what no hum or buzz. So what happened? While in the players splash screen I decided to crank the volume past 11 and see if I could hear anything guess what... complete and utter silence. Urm...So I switch inputs and go back and shonuff the hum and buzzing is back. This also applies to pausing the movie and cranking out the volume to see if there is any noise complete silence.

The only way I found on how to completely eliminate the hum and buzzing is to start the movie and when it hits the first DD track stop the movie using the stop button on your remote. Or wait for the intro to the movie when the lossy tracks kick in and stop the movie this works every time and completely eliminates any noise coming from our 606's. I tested this at least for an hour and it works. It totally sucks but hey a small work around for this bug is repeatable and is fixed using this method every time.

I think it's a handshaking issue I don't think grounding the unit or doing anything will fix this bug, because if it were ground it would be there all the time. At least it can be eliminated completely using the work around and at least you can enjoy the movie without any distractions.

If you switch inputs it will default back to it's lousy state of buzzing and humming. But if you don't touch anything after the work around it behaves normal and you can watch and enjoy your favorite flick without aggravation throughout the movie. This is only affected in the HDMI ports everything else is fine the tuner etc optical from the cable box has no issues with the 606 buzzing it's just the damn HDMI ports being affected by this bug. I hope Onkyo can fix this via firmware and I hope it's not a hardware flaw but if it is I'll still keep my unit regardless because if it can be eliminated with a quick work around I can live with a few bugs.

Guys try this method and post back your results I'm sure this fix will apply across the board.

Regards, Gary
post #4996 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Jeff__B View Post

It's an LG 52LBX... I'll try looking at its audio menus, I haven't dont that yet.



Yeah, I noticed that it was changing to auto when I enabled TV control. Didn't seem to change the result though. Just seems odd that the 606 is able to "build" an HDMI signal that my TV can get audio and video from, but when the audio is absolutely necessary (606 is on standby) then the signal is somehow lacking.

Anyway, I appreciate the help from both of you. I'll figure something out.

Jeff__B, if you still are having issues, take a look at my post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14353835 it is something you need to control with the TV. In my case through Sharp's Aquos Link.
post #4997 of 9416
Does the Onkyo TX-SR606 have pre-outs for all channels? I have an amplifier so i'd be connecting the pre-outs of the receiver to the amp. The specs seem to indicate that pre-outs are available only for subwoofer, so i wanted to check from folks who have already bought the receiver.

Vick
post #4998 of 9416
No pre-outs on the US model of the 606, must have the 706 or higher.
post #4999 of 9416
i found my remote code for my hd dvd... now... anyone found the code for a Samsung 67a750 tv?
post #5000 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Nike-Air View Post

You may want to bump up intellivolume to +8db. I think it is under speaker menu, then source setup, and then intellivolume. I did this and I generally keep my volume around 15-20 for movies and gaming. This also improved the sound quality as well...that's to say it sounds better to me now anyway

thanks for this tip, i have had my 606 for months and was always annoyed i had to turn it up so loud.

Thanks!!
post #5001 of 9416
So what is the best, or preferred, Listening Mode for Blu-rays and DVDs?
post #5002 of 9416
Hi guys, sorry for the NEWBIE post but here goes..
My TV is a Pana PX8050U, it is not 1080P. For time being I have an old outdated dvd player I would like to hook up till I can afford something nicer and newer. I believe the DVD player only has RCA outputs. Can the 606 upscale this? What is the best method for a good picture? I am running HDMI from cable into receiver, another HDMI from receiver (606) to TV.. Thanks in advance..
post #5003 of 9416
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Originally Posted by hrdluck13 View Post

Hi guys, sorry for the NEWBIE post but here goes..
My TV is a Pana PX8050U, it is not 1080P. For time being I have an old outdated dvd player I would like to hook up till I can afford something nicer and newer. I believe the DVD player only has RCA outputs. Can the 606 upscale this? What is the best method for a good picture? I am running HDMI from cable into receiver, another HDMI from receiver (606) to TV.. Thanks in advance..

You may find it is better to be less aggressive about upscaling. Even though you have a 720p TV, you may get a better picture by setting HDMI on the 606 to 480p. Try both 480p and 720p and compare. Once you get a good upscaling DVD player like the Pioneer 410, then set the 606 HDMI to THROUGH.
post #5004 of 9416
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker View Post

So what is the best, or preferred, Listening Mode for Blu-rays and DVDs?

I like the defaults of Multi-Ch for PCM and the DD, TrueHD, DTS and DTS-MA codecs for bitstream
post #5005 of 9416
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Originally Posted by SkiSmuggs View Post

I like the defaults of Multi-Ch for PCM and the DD, TrueHD, DTS and DTS-MA codecs for bitstream

How do you activate these codecs? I cannot seem to get anything like those to display across my receiver?
post #5006 of 9416
You have to bitsteam them from a source device like a Bluray player.
post #5007 of 9416
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Originally Posted by kemac View Post

You have to bitsteam them from a source device like a Bluray player.

My BR player is hooked up with HDMI. I just thought I'd see things like "DTS-MA" or "Dolby True HD" on my receiver when listening to those types of tracks.
post #5008 of 9416
If your player is configuired to bitstream HD codecs and allow your receiver to do the decoding you will. If the player is doing the decoding your only going to see multi-channel PCM being input to your 606. Not all bluray players can bitsteam HD codecs.
post #5009 of 9416
Can someone please help?

I've had my Onkyo for a week hooked up and worked great. Now I try to turn it on, it comes on briefly then goes right back to Standby mode with the red light blinking?

Is it busted?
post #5010 of 9416
You might have a short in your speaker cabling. disconnect your speakers and see what happens, if it still shuts down with no speakers connected then it probably is busted.
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