The Onkyo TX-SR606 Owners Thread - Page 204

If you run HDMI from your PC to receiver, you will only be able to output the video from the receiver via HDMI - the 606 does not convert the digital HDMI to component. It isn't clear to me how you have your PC connected to the receiver.

It is possible the TV and/or PC are not properly communicating the HDCP handshake via the receiver. Does the TV get the video properly if you connect directly from PC to TV?

It is also possible your PC is defaulting to a resolution/refresh rate the TV doesn't like, such as 1080p if your TV is only happy with 1080i, for example, or a refresh rate of 72Hz (most TVs usually only like 60Hz, unless specifically 24fps-compatible).

Just a few suggestions...

shinksma

Yes, but I'm still in the process of actually doing it. I've been taking some pics along the way. I'm hoping to have it done by the end of this week. I'm still looking for a nice but cheap grille to go over the fan, but I might have to settle for a home depot 8"x6" grille.

Try turning on your gear in the preferred order: TV -> AVR -> Xbox
I think I read somewhere on this forum that doing that should help with the handshaking of the HDMI signals.

razrx

Ok. I'd like to see your pics if its possible. I'm thinking of doing something similar at some point. Thx

Thanks for your suggestions Shinksma. I will try a few of them this week. At the moment I've reverted back to S-video to the receiver. I have read a bit, and I think it is the HDCP handshake problem...

You're right - my TV is only capable of 852 x 480 (which is 480p right?). I think it's time for a new TV....this one last all of three years. Damn technology.

What I wanted to do (in a perfect world to have the least amount of cables was:-

PC via HDMI to the 606. My TV is connected by a HDMI-DVI cable (it has no HDMI input...the piece of crap...)

-James

If your TV is only 480p in actual displayed resolution, then indeed you probably have a non-HDCP DVI input, which means all HDMI sources like PCs, BD players, even DVD players, etc will fail to recognize the TV as a safe destination, and you will get no image.

Yes, it sounds like a good time to upgrade. You do have the advantage that LCD and plasma flat-panel TVs, and DLP-rear-proj TVs, have all fallen a huge amount since you bought your TV, and you should be able to get a nice HD (720p or 1080p) set for probably the same price you paid three years ago for 480p.

IMHO, AFAIK,

shinksma

Hmmm... I just realized that I am going to have to calibrate my TV one way for multiple sources since I am running everything through the 606... anyone see a way around this rather unsettling dilemma?

i had this problem too - my sources were: xbox 360; wii; hd-dvd and cable box (i've since gotten rid of cable and am using rabbit ears, which provide much better high-def picture quality for the networks than i was getting from time warner in los angeles) and my tv is a samsung lnt4065f. if your TV has multiple viewing modes per input, you could do calibrate each to suit individual sources...
what i did was:

xbox 360: i ended up running HDMI from my 360 directly to my TV, and running a fiber optic cable for audio from the 360 to the 606 - i use the TVs PC setting for the 360, so this was key for me.

everything else: run through the 606 via HDMI (hd-dvd and cable box) or component (wii). the samsung has 3 different viewing modes per input that i had tweaked to my liking for the source - i used the "standard" mode for cable and the "movie" mode for the hd-dvd. i think i use standard for the wii, but i never turn it on, so i'm not sure. the samsung remote has a picture mode button on it that cycles through the presets, so it was easy to switch switch settings based on what i was watching. (now that i'm using rabbit ears for tv, it's moot, but it worked fine while i still had cable).

I recently completed my budget-minded htib upgrade and have the following setup:

606 Receiver
Polk Monitor 50 Fronts (Bi-amped)
Polk CS1 Center
PA-120 Sub
Polk Atrium 45 Surround
Vizio VM60 Plasma
Memorex Blu-Ray
Tivo Series 3 HD
Xbox 360

Audyessy set my fronts and centers to Full Range w/ Double Bass On and set my Atrium 45's to 120hz. I have two questions:

1) Will I lose any frequencies setting the front and center to 80hz? I seem to remember reading a thread that mentioned you could miss frequency ranges by setting the crossover manually.

2) Is 120hz the best setting for the Atrium 45s? Would it be better to cross front/center/surround all at 80hz?

I started noticing the buzz tonight. I've had the receiver since Sept or so. Never had the problem before.

When my display says "DSP" I hear the buzz. When I switch sources so it says "HDMI", no buzz. Do I really need to send it in to Onkyo? The receiver is my HDMI switcher and I think I'd go crazy without it since my TV only has one HDMI and all my remote's macros are programmed with the receiver in mind.

Is there a post describing the buzz? I got new speakers all around (Infinity Primus series) and tonight I noticed when my PS3 was on but not playing a movie my front speakers were buzzing with white noise. I turned my PS3 off, the buzz cut out for a second and then continued. Any ideas?

EDIT: my PS3 is hooked up via HDMI to my 606

thank God so far my reconditioned 606($299) has been performing flawlessly.....meaning no buzz of any kind unless I turn off subwoofer under speaker setting and no hum noise of any kind at the highest volume.

knock on wood......I hope I didn't jinx myself.

Is turning the subwoofer off under speaker settings a known cause of the buzz? Because I just did that two days ago after getting my new speakers (still waiting on my new sub, should be here tomorrow).

The Onkyo web site has a list of product features for the TX-SR606. Under the Amplifier features section, it lists "Non-Scaling Configuration". What does that mean? Thanks.

Onkyo's description of non-scaling.
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/technology...onscaling.html

It's for people running 5.1 without a subwoofer.

Ha! Wonder if their "Non-scaling Configuration" *feature* is what causes the buzz when the Subwoofer is set to None.

I know this has most likely been beat to death in this thread, but searching through 100 pages or so might not be the most efficient way of getting an answer....so here goes.

I'm thinking of getting one of these receivers, and I'm a bit curious to know how widespread this buzzing issue is, and how hot is "hot" when talking about the heat this puts off.

Now all I have is a PS3 and a L and R speaker at the moment. I'm slowly upgrading my system, and would at some point add 5.1 surround and might even add a stand alone blu-ray (even though the PS3 does that as well) but those additions wouldn't be for some time down the road.

I appreciate the help. Thanks!

I dont have an audyssey mic, and im running a 4.0 system with no center channel yet.

I have Infinity Primus P362B fronts and Klipsch SS.5 for the surround being powered by ONKYO tX-SR606.

I need to know how i can adjust the equalizers. I understand that each room may require a different setting but if some one can go over each frequency and tell me what its controls that would be great.

Thanks
AR

Nope. Not for me at least. Running 4.0 and the 606 knows it. No buzz whatsoever. So far it seems in the main to be a grounding issue, sometimes with things you wouldn't think you'd need to ground (coaxial cable in line or antenna line in; sometimes equipment sharing an outlet), there have been only a handful of people who've had problems they couldn't track down and have returned it (at least who've posted in this thread). Some who've gotten it have simply turned off the Auddisey EQ and seen some reduction of the "buzz."

Crakarjax - I don't honestly see an issue only having one TV calibration, especially if you've benchmarked it with one of the DVDs. I've had my 46" Aquos LCD set one way the entire time I've had it without issue (upscaled DVDs, Xbox 360, HD, and SD broadcasts all look wonderful). I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to have this option, I just don't see the benefit if you're running the best calibration settings?

Jpodz - You're right, it's been done to death and you really should search the thread. I have no buzz and the heat is not even as bad as my older, higher quality Sony ES receiver.

The rest of you - Still enjoying the crap out of this system. Still not a hiccup yet (mine's a $299 refurb too like Swifty7's). I promise to learn how to use multi-quote in the future, just not today.

Got the same thing, here's mine with the 7.1 monoprice wallplate.

Awesome pictures and a very nice setup. When we buy a house I hope I have the patience to fish wire through the walls too and don't give up out of my otherwise crippling laziness.

Is that 12 AWG wire?

Thanks. My patients was wearing believe me, it was a PITA. It's 16AWG from monoprice.

I've got mine all set up to be sent off tomorrow. If you can suggest something i'd appreciate it. I'd much rather not pay to ship it and insure it.

I used this for 2 weeks, no issues at all. The other day the buzz and hum actually happened while it was on. I was playing xbox live, left the room for about 20 mins and when i came back, i was in a part where there was no sound, and i noticed the buzz then for the first time.

I've tried resetting it, unhooking everything and hooking it back up. It almost goes away if i disable the audyssey, otherwise i only hear it when it's turned up around 40. But it doesn't sound as good without audyssey. I hooked it to an extension cord and plugged it in in a different room, still same problem. Buzz goes away if i unplug the hdmi sources. I don't see how it could be coaxial or anything. The only thing i have hooked to it right now is my xbox 360 going through hdmi to receiver then hdmi out to tv. Coaxial for the tv goes into the tv, those are the only things hooked up.

Tv is a 34xbr crt, and speakers are def tech bp7002's. If you have any other suggestions i'd appreciate hearing them.

If this problem just arose with the same use as normal that didn't produce it before it does sound like a failure that developed over time and use. The only things I can suggest offhand are: 1) switching out the HDMI cable and seeing what happens, and 2) plugging the Xbox 360 into the extension cord outlet (but making sure that outlet is from a different breaker section; you probably already did this and it's likely if it's a different room, but I know some of our breakers are running three different room outlets). If the buzz goes away with the HDMI sources unplugged it does sound like it's traceable to the HDMI connection in some way; it appears from previous posts (I'm no electrician or engineer) that they do transfer a great deal of power and electricity, so grounding issues or cumulative power issues can be transferred to the 606 through HDMI cable as some people in this thread have found.

I work at Circuit City and right now with the liquidation they are selling the 606 for 350. You have to find a store that still has one but our store was at 30% off and that is cheaper than anywhere I have seen online.

nlsteele,

I really appreciate your suggestions. Upon deeper inspection i found that it is on in the HDMI out output. I just ran to the store and swapped it out with a different HDMI cable, and the buzz is still there. I also bought a new grounded surge protector that allows the coax to go through it. I don't think that the coax is the problem, but it has allowed me a bit cleaner install. It seems that the hum has lessened. Can any of you tell me if you can hear a hum at all when you put the volume at 45 with no music or anything playing, and audyssey enabled? I think maybe one of the two things helped. It seems like it isn't so severe, but I can still here it. The reason i suggested volume at 45 is because i have mine capped there.

When it turn it up with audyssey on i can hear a hum, no audyssey, i don't hear a hum. No hum with audyssey on when HDMI out is unplugged. I realize i could use component, but I might as well get this fixed now. Anyone have any other suggestions?

Also, I know this doesn't sound the greatest but I do live in a trailer, and i ran the extension cord all the way down to the other end, so i know it's on a different breaker.

Thanks for the tip, I will check it out tonight!

I think I remember reading somewhere that to ground it, you should take a piece of wire, and unscrew one of the screws on the case, put it under the screw and then connect the wire to the copper water line of the house. Would this work? would this be the best way to eliminate grounding issues and figure out once and for all if i need to send it in?

from your first post, it looks like you aren't using a sub. if that's correct, have you tried setting "Sub" to "Yes" in the speaker setup menu? this has solved the buzz problem for at least a few folks on here, and for a friend of mine who got a buzzy 606. and, if your front speakers are full range, my understanding is that setting Double Bass to Yes/On will prevent you from losing any low end with this configuration (could be wrong on that...)

I just tried it...and I think it fixed it. Now my question is....is this a problem that should be fixed? or just worked around?