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post #901 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:01am
MY 606 IS DOING MY HEAD IN... my ps3 when playing games that are Dolby Digital etc etc are not making the amp like up accordingly..

it shows as PCM MULTICH HDMI

why wont it light up dolby or the dts signs?

it does the same when playing dvds through ps3 they dont make it light up either...

i only got it yesterday and pretty narked that it aint working right..

can anyone help???????????
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post #902 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by c86c View Post

MY 606 IS DOING MY HEAD IN... my ps3 when playing games that are Dolby Digital etc etc are not making the amp like up accordingly..

it shows as PCM MULTICH HDMI

why wont it light up dolby or the dts signs?

it does the same when playing dvds through ps3 they dont make it light up either...

i only got it yesterday and pretty narked that it aint working right..

can anyone help???????????

You PS3 is doing all the decoding for you. Don't worry - if the receiver says it is receiving Multi-channel PCM via HDMI, then the PS3 is providing that M-ch PCM by decoding the audio formats.

There is a setting in the PS3 to have it output DD and DTS as raw bitstream, but you won't hear anything different. The PS3 also decodes TrueHD and DTS-HD MA for you from BDs, and still the 606 will not light up anything other than M-ch PCM. You need an advanced audio bitstreaming BD player to get the raw advanced audio codecs to the receiver via HDMI.

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post #903 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by c86c View Post

MY 606 IS DOING MY HEAD IN... my ps3 when playing games that are Dolby Digital etc etc are not making the amp like up accordingly..

it shows as PCM MULTICH HDMI

why wont it light up dolby or the dts signs?

it does the same when playing dvds through ps3 they dont make it light up either...

i only got it yesterday and pretty narked that it aint working right..

can anyone help???????????

Your receiver is working fine. It's your ps3 that doesn't work the way you think it does. Press the Display button to see what kind of signal you're receiving. It's not DD or DTS. The only game I have that plays in DD or DTS is Drake's Fortune.
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post #904 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:20am
gta 4, warhawk..
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post #905 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

You PS3 is doing all the decoding for you. Don't worry - if the receiver says it is receiving Multi-channel PCM via HDMI, then the PS3 is providing that M-ch PCM by decoding the audio formats.

There is a setting in the PS3 to have it output DD and DTS as raw bitstream, but you won't hear anything different. The PS3 also decodes TrueHD and DTS-HD MA for you from BDs, and still the 606 will not light up anything other than M-ch PCM. You need an advanced audio bitstreaming BD player to get the raw advanced audio codecs to the receiver via HDMI.

shinksma

so does this mean the amp wont pick the dolby true hd properly? or the ps3 is just actually crap lol
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post #906 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by c86c View Post

so does this mean the amp wont pick the dolby true hd properly? or the ps3 is just actually crap lol

Your 606 is working fine and actually so is the PS3 for its capabilities. If your receiver decodes the audio signal, then your "nifty" lights will come on. When your player decodes and sends a PCM signal, the the receiver will show PCM Multichannel.
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post #907 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:50am
this is some clever s$^t lol ok thankls people.. instaed of having ps3 autimatical find everything, i selected it only to find DD, DTS n all that, dont have 7 speakers so 5.1 with lights will do!!

oh heres another question!!

my speakers for the center and rear are sony ss-490's the rear can handle 120 and center 150 watts maximum input..
as the amp is 140w output will it blow my speakers?
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post #908 of 9415
6/16/08 at 10:50am
I just got a 606 to go with my new panny 50PZ85U and everything is working fine except I'm not getting a picture, only sound from my Direct DVR.

I connected the DVR using S-video and audio cables to ( CBL/SAT in ) on the 606 as per the manual. I have HDMI out to the TV. What did I miss?
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post #909 of 9415
6/16/08 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by 1brokebrother View Post

do you mean if
Left = 9ft.
Center = 10ft.
Right = 9ft.
Sub = 9ft..

you change your settings to

Left = 1ft.
Center = 2ft.
Right = 1ft.
Sub = 1ft
I think that would be the lowest relative setting?

Changing settings like that makes no difference to the delays. It is the relative distances that matter. In both cases above, the center will be set to the minimum delay, and the others will have an additional 0.89 mS of delay.
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post #910 of 9415
6/16/08 at 12:53pm
Curious on the whole matrixing of bitstreams.. if you dont matrix a bitstream of truehd to 7.1, do the rear speakers basically not output any sound.. or is it just the side speakers spread across the back?

Has anyone tried comparing matrix to not matrixed to see if the full 7.1 sounds that much better?
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post #911 of 9415
6/16/08 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Sain View Post

I just got a 606 to go with my new panny 50PZ85U and everything is working fine except I'm not getting a picture, only sound from my Direct DVR.

I connected the DVR using S-video and audio cables to ( CBL/SAT in ) on the 606 as per the manual. I have HDMI out to the TV. What did I miss?

Why would you use an Svid cable for the video? Doesn't your DVR have an HDMI out? Sounds like you need to play around with the assignments on the receiver (hit the setup button on your remote and have at it).
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post #912 of 9415
6/16/08 at 12:57pm
Would like to test my 5.1 surround setup on 606. Can you recommend best movie to test the system?
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post #913 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by mac707 View Post

Why would you use an Svid cable for the video? Doesn't your DVR have an HDMI out? Sounds like you need to play around with the assignments on the receiver (hit the setup button on your remote and have at it).

The DVR doesn't have HDMI. I believe with the hookup I described above the receiver should recognize it by the default setting and shouldn't need to be assigned but it's not working.
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post #914 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by FadeToOne View Post

He apparently means to say he has super human hearing. The speed of sound in 50 degrees F is 1110 ft/s or so vs 1170 ft/s or so at 100 degrees. Given that you're room is usually less than 20 feet, suffice it to say you wouldn't notice the difference between the two at the approximate 0.017 seconds max it takes for the sound to it your ears.

If I understand him correctly, Rumeck was referring to how sound bounces off of things. As these objects, materials, walls get hotter they become more dense and when they become more dense the sound doesn't reflect as much as becomes flat. Environments that are humid often have a drop in sound and ambience. He frequents at another audio forum and they get pretty deep talking about it.
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post #915 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by markm75 View Post

Curious on the whole matrixing of bitstreams.. if you dont matrix a bitstream of truehd to 7.1, do the rear speakers basically not output any sound.. or is it just the side speakers spread across the back?

Has anyone tried comparing matrix to not matrixed to see if the full 7.1 sounds that much better?

If the soundtrack is 5.1, your SB speakers will be silent. If it's 7.1, then you'll get whatever was recorded in the SB channels.
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post #916 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Sain View Post

The DVR doesn't have HDMI. I believe with the hookup I described above the receiver should recognize it by the default setting and shouldn't need to be assigned but it's not working.

What about component outs on the DVR? I'm just asking because S-video PQ is pretty bad. If it's not working, even though you think the inputs are assigned correctly I'd still go in and check.
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post #917 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by Gmo0ve View Post

If I understand him correctly, Rumeck was referring to how sound bounces off of things. As these objects, materials, walls get hotter they become more dense and when they become more dense the sound doesn't reflect as much as becomes flat. Environments that are humid often have a drop in sound and ambience. He frequents at another audio forum and they get pretty deep talking about it.

Humidity, I believe. Sound absorption changes significantly with humidity - but not temperature. Well, if you got down to the dew point, maybe, but that's not usual indoor temperature. I would be very surprised if wall and object density change enough to change the reflection coefficients significantly over the range of temperature in the typical home, say 60F to 85F.
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post #918 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

If the soundtrack is 5.1, your SB speakers will be silent. If it's 7.1, then you'll get whatever was recorded in the SB channels.

Thats what i figured...

Have you ever tried 7.1 matrixed .. any big difference?
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post #919 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by mac707 View Post

What about component outs on the DVR? I'm just asking because S-video PQ is pretty bad. If it's not working, even though you think the inputs are assigned correctly I'd still go in and check.

The DirectTV SD DVR only has S-Video and composite and I did go in and check and it looked to be right
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post #920 of 9415
6/16/08 at 1:56pm
I think this may have been mentioned previously, maybe in a different thread, but.. the xbox 360 outputs 1080p over component, since the update last year.. if using component to hdmi conversion, will this work..? I'm guessing it wont, just like the yamaha 663? So the only way around this is to use component out from the receiver to the tv (which i'm assuming it should have of course)..
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post #921 of 9415
6/16/08 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by markm75 View Post

I think this may have been mentioned previously, maybe in a different thread, but.. the xbox 360 outputs 1080p over component, since the update last year.. if using component to hdmi conversion, will this work..? I'm guessing it wont, just like the yamaha 663? So the only way around this is to use component out from the receiver to the tv (which i'm assuming it should have of course)..

No, it won't convert this to HDMI. If you download the manual from Onkyo's site, it has a chart in the back showing what signals will convert and what won't.
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post #922 of 9415
6/16/08 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by fyzziks View Post

Humidity, I believe. Sound absorption changes significantly with humidity - but not temperature. Well, if you got down to the dew point, maybe, but that's not usual indoor temperature. I would be very surprised if wall and object density change enough to change the reflection coefficients significantly over the range of temperature in the typical home, say 60F to 85F.

I don't know. You may want to take it up with him. I just wanted to know if my bi-amp configuration is correct. LOL.
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post #923 of 9415
6/16/08 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by Gmo0ve View Post

I don't know. You may want to take it up with him. I just wanted to know if my bi-amp configuration is correct. LOL.

I have a 606 and I know in the manual it tells you how to bi-amp and on the back of the receiver it is clearly labelled. Go check out your manual. Also make sure to to turn it on in the set-up menu.
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post #924 of 9415
6/16/08 at 3:23pm
I read the manual. I'm hesitant in fear that I'll break something so I wanted to verify if my configuration was correct.
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post #925 of 9415
6/16/08 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by markm75 View Post

Thats what i figured...

Have you ever tried 7.1 matrixed .. any big difference?

I don't have SB speakers.
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post #926 of 9415
6/16/08 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by Gmo0ve View Post

I don't know. You may want to take it up with him.

Not really.
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I just wanted to know if my bi-amp configuration is correct. LOL.

Sorry I missed that in your last post Yes, your connections appear to be correct.
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post #927 of 9415
6/16/08 at 4:41pm
Thank you. The fronts will sound ever-more sweet soon.
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post #928 of 9415
6/16/08 at 9:12pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Sain View Post

I just got a 606 to go with my new panny 50PZ85U and everything is working fine except I'm not getting a picture, only sound from my Direct DVR.

I connected the DVR using S-video and audio cables to ( CBL/SAT in ) on the 606 as per the manual. I have HDMI out to the TV. What did I miss?

in the setup, make sure that CBL/SAT channel isn't assigned to anything. keep it "-----" in 1-1.HDMI input and 1-2.Component video input
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post #929 of 9415
6/17/08 at 8:50am
Is it normal for receivers to be hot to the touch after use? My 606 runs very hot and I believe I had video & audio cutting out because of overheating. I setup a fan next to it to keep some airflow going but I'd much rather not have a fan running all the time. It's really obnoxious during quiet scenes of movies/tv.
Anyone else experience the same issue?
Alex
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post #930 of 9415
6/17/08 at 3:17pm
Some people have mentioned that Onkyos get anywhere from warm to hot. If you're looking at the face the heat is coming from the upper-right corner, towards the back end of the receiver. Make sure that it has proper ventilation for the heat to disperse.

You could try using fans with thermo sensors. You can just place them using a two-way tape in the areas where there's a lot of heat. They're quiet and will only turn on when heat rises to a certain temperature.
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