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post #9151 of 9462
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Originally Posted by scowl View Post

But if your criteria for purchasing is only narrowed down to companies that don't release products that self-destruct, there is a wide range of moderately priced consumer products to choose from. I have receivers from Yamaha, Panasonic, and even a very old Onkyo that are still running perfectly.


Companies don't stay in business very long by releasing nothing but faulty products, but the SR606 has made me question if Onkyo is occasionally willing to let some junk pass through. If they had acknowledged that covering a board with heatsinks with another board was a bad idea before releasing it, they could have redesigned it and moved the board over (it's not a large board if I remember right). I suspect they figured that most likely the components would last three or four years and customers would be back to purchase Onkyo's latest receiver. They gambled and both sides lost.

It all makes for an interesting conversation. I manage the engineering test department for a company that make adapter boards for enterprise level servers. I can tell you that even at this level every design takes costs and time-to-market into consideration. The pressure on consumer products is even higher. To stop and redesign even just the mounting location of a single board like the one in the 606 could kill the product due to NRE costs or by delaying the release. But get it wrong, repeatedly, and you lose your credibility in the market. Tough business, I'm glad I'm not in it. I'm also glad that I used a credit card that extended the warrany on my 606 so it didn't cost me anything when it failed after two years and two months!

None of the manufacturers is flawless, sometimes you don't know just how close some of your equipment is to failing under the cover. Just look at the Consumer Reports reliability ratings, none of them are zero. I don't know where Onkyo falls, I'll have to dig up a Consumer Reports annual edition and take a look.
post #9152 of 9462
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Originally Posted by lament View Post

Just got a call from the repair shop.. it's ready to pick up.

For those interested, 10 capacitors were replaced (6 of 1 type, 4 of another is what the receipt shows). Works great now.
post #9153 of 9462
Finally heard back from Onkyo and they agreed to fix it at no charge. I'll be taking it in to the nearest service center (10 min. away from me ) tomorrow. Will update you all when I get it back.
post #9154 of 9462
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Originally Posted by EvlAsh View Post

Finally heard back from Onkyo and they agreed to fix it at no charge. I'll be taking it in to the nearest service center (10 min. away from me ) tomorrow. Will update you all when I get it back.

Good to hear. I like to hear when a company stands by their product. Mine was repaired as well but in warranty. I have since replaced it with another Onkyo, the 1007 which has been an excellent receiver for me now going on a year and a half.
post #9155 of 9462
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Originally Posted by badgerpilot View Post

Good to hear. I like to hear when a company stands by their product. Mine was repaired as well but in warranty. I have since replaced it with another Onkyo, the 1007 which has been an excellent receiver for me now going on a year and a half.

I just picked my 606 up from Norman's Electronics in Atlanta. I'm @ 7 months out of warranty, and Onkyo covered the repair.

Unfortunately, not much detail on the invoice I signed for $0.00, but it seems like they replaced the HDMI board (part number 1B211573-1A1) and 1 capacitor (part number 374721044T).

I'm plugging it in tonight, and it will sit on top of an open rack, with >2 feet of open space on all sides. Hopefully it will work and stay cool and happy for the foreseeable future, or until I'm ready to pay for a replacement.

I'm pretty happy, because I loved the receiver when it was new and 100% functional, and I don't need any of the features of the newer models (yet). Onkyo has done alright by me, and if I can bellieve that they fixed the design flaw with their board placement, I'll probably buy one of their products when I'm in the market.
post #9156 of 9462
Yeah the tech at the place I dropped off mine said that replacing full boards is pretty rare. Mine only needed 10 new capacitors.
post #9157 of 9462
Picked-up my Receiver this morning from the service center. I don't know how many capacitors were replaced, but looking through the top grill, it looks like at least one was replaced. The invoice doesn't state what was replaced; it just says "Authorized Service Center Repair". Anyway, went through the setup and every thing looks good. I'll know for sure later on tonight or tomorrow.
post #9158 of 9462
Need some help. Not sure what is wrong. Blu Ray plays with great picture but no sound. Just started doing it. When I switch the 606 to the Blu Ray, it displays the device, but the HDMI flashes, then it shows only DSP. What does this mean? Thanks in advance for your assistance. Also, when I go onto "settings", the "speaker setup" is not highlighted, but if I scroll to it or past it, it will light up and stay lit up. I also tries switching the HDMI connection with the regular DVD player which has picture and sound. Again, the Blu Ray showed picture but no sound.
post #9159 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wouldtoo View Post

Need some help. Not sure what is wrong. Blu Ray plays with great picture but no sound. Just started doing it. When I switch the 606 to the Blu Ray, it displays the device, but the HDMI flashes, then it shows only DSP. What does this mean? Thanks in advance for your assistance. Also, when I go onto "settings", the "speaker setup" is not highlighted, but if I scroll to it or past it, it will light up and stay lit up. I also tries switching the HDMI connection with the regular DVD player which has picture and sound. Again, the Blu Ray showed picture but no sound.

If I'm not mistaken, DSP stands for Digital Signal Processing. As far as your sound through HDMI issue is concerned, make sure that HDMI(x) is enabled in the digital section (menu 1-3) of the Input Assignment menu.
post #9160 of 9462
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Originally Posted by EvlAsh View Post

If I'm not mistaken, DSP stands for Digital Signal Processing. As far as your sound through HDMI issue is concerned, make sure that HDMI(x) is enabled in the digital section (menu 1-3) of the Input Assignment menu.

I checked to make certain the correct HDMI Input was checked. Then I even switched the inputs for the Blu ray player and the regular DVD player. With both, the Blu ray has its great picture, just no sound and the 606 isn't displaying it as HDMI, which just glades before going to only DSP. The regular DVD player shows the HDMI DSP on the display. Don't know if it is with the Blu ray or the 606. Thank you for your response
post #9161 of 9462
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Originally Posted by wouldtoo View Post

I checked to make certain the correct HDMI Input was checked. Then I even switched the inputs for the Blu ray player and the regular DVD player. With both, the Blu ray has its great picture, just no sound and the 606 isn't displaying it as HDMI, which just glades before going to only DSP. The regular DVD player shows the HDMI DSP on the display. Don't know if it is with the Blu ray or the 606. Thank you for your response

Have you had your Onkyo serviced for this hdmi problem before? I'm asking because was a thread about people experiencing gradula hdmi failures with their Onkyo 606.
post #9162 of 9462
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post


Have you had your Onkyo serviced for this hdmi problem before? I'm asking because was a thread about people experiencing gradula hdmi failures with their Onkyo 606.

No I haven't. I am thinking about upgrading, so maybe now is the time to do it. I will look back in the thread and see what I can find. Thanks
post #9163 of 9462
Well, it seems I'm in the same boat as a few of you having some of the HDMI daughterboard problems. I have three devices hooked up to the 606 (BR, HDDVD, and UVerse). When I turn on the BR player (assigned input DVD) it takes several minutes to even come up, gives me the "no signal" error. I purchased the 606 back in mid-late 2008 and I really don't want to deal with the hassle of calling Onkyo to tell me I'm no longer under warranty. Hmmm I think it' time to purchase a new receiver.
post #9164 of 9462
is anyone here outputting hdmi sound from a radeon videocard?

i have a radeon hd6950 and decided to give hdmi audio a go and for some reason it only gives me the option to do 2 channel. not 6 channel that i wish (the card will do up to 8 channel). this SHOULD work. ive asked around and have seen that it will do this. ive got a good quality hdmi cable from monoprice, and im running windows 7 x64. ive also tried a few different drivers. anyone have any ideas? is this a windows thing or is my 606 being wonky?

post #9165 of 9462
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Originally Posted by delrmx01 View Post

Well, it seems I'm in the same boat as a few of you having some of the HDMI daughterboard problems. I have three devices hooked up to the 606 (BR, HDDVD, and UVerse). When I turn on the BR player (assigned input DVD) it takes several minutes to even come up, gives me the "no signal" error. I purchased the 606 back in mid-late 2008 and I really don't want to deal with the hassle of calling Onkyo to tell me I'm no longer under warranty. Hmmm I think it' time to purchase a new receiver.

Wouldn't want to block your path to a new toy, but my 606 was purchased in June 2008, and Onkyo just paid for the out of warranty repair for HDMI issues this month. If you're ready to spend the money, though, enjoy your new receiver!
post #9166 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Devil98 View Post


Wouldn't want to block your path to a new toy, but my 606 was purchased in June 2008, and Onkyo just paid for the out of warranty repair for HDMI issues this month. If you're ready to spend the money, though, enjoy your new receiver!

I would agree, try for a fix for free and then use the 606 as a backup or in another room.
post #9167 of 9462
I too fell victim to the failing HDMI board. Luckily I caught it under warranty and got it repaired for free (less my shipping costs to the MI service center).

They replaced 8 caps total. I can get more details from the invoice if anyone wants them. I also picked up an Antec Veris A/V cooler as a future safeguard as I don't see me needing to upgrade for at least 2 years. It was $50 at my frys.
post #9168 of 9462
Pedro,
You might try using one of those so-called "Green" power strips/surge suppressors (also available at Fry's) and hook it up such that it is triggered by the Onkyo receiver and supplies the cooler. That's what I did with mine and it works like a charm. Now the fan turns off when the receiver does.
post #9169 of 9462
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Originally Posted by pedro0223 View Post

I too fell victim to the failing HDMI board. Luckily I caught it under warranty and got it repaired for free (less my shipping costs to the MI service center).

They replaced 8 caps total. I can get more details from the invoice if anyone wants them. I also picked up an Antec Veris A/V cooler as a future safeguard as I don't see me needing to upgrade for at least 2 years. It was $50 at my frys.

I think I am right there with you. Quick question. My Blu ray will play but without sound. If I switch it to the input that my regular DVD player is connected to, the same thing happens. But when the regular DVD player is connected, it has sound. Both are connected via HDMI. is it due to the board?
post #9170 of 9462
Don't know how or why, but sound came back today. Not sure how long it will last, but I am enjoying it haha.
post #9171 of 9462
I now have a 3D projector and the my 606 won't pass through 3D HDMI, as you all know, I'm sure. Can anyone recommend a decent, low cost AVR that is 3D capable? I'm not looking to pay very much, probably less than $300. Any recommendations?
post #9172 of 9462
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post
I now have a 3D projector and the my 606 won't pass through 3D HDMI, as you all know, I'm sure. Can anyone recommend a decent, low cost AVR that is 3D capable? I'm not looking to pay very much, probably less than $300. Any recommendations?
I'm in the same boat as you. I've had this receiver for a few years now and love it! But I just got a 3D TV and I can't use the receiver with it. My plans are to just hook the PS3 directly to the TV then run an optical audio cable from the PS3 to the receiver. Have you thought about doing that? It would definitely be a cheaper option!
post #9173 of 9462
Actually, I thought about it but dismissed it based on wanting pure audio. But for as little 3D use it will see I think optical would work fine. Thanks for the suggestion.
post #9174 of 9462
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

I now have a 3D projector and the my 606 won't pass through 3D HDMI, as you all know, I'm sure. Can anyone recommend a decent, low cost AVR that is 3D capable? I'm not looking to pay very much, probably less than $300. Any recommendations?

The Onkyo HT-RC260 is pretty well the equivalent of the 606 but with HDMI1.4 for 3D plus a couple other slight improvements over the 606 - except it loses the multi-channel analog inputs (as seems to be the trend with lots of receivers in the last couple years).

The 608 (true replacement for 606) is essentially the same as the RC260 but a bit more expensive usually, but you may find the nuances worth the little bit of extra cash.

Just a couple suggestions in the same product line,

shinksma
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So I've been running my 606 to my 480p LG plasma for a couple years now. Flawless operation. No dramas.

Now I plan to upgrade to the new Panny ST30 which is 1080p, and lots of 606 owners have had issues running 1080p through their 606's.

So, I'm scared to run 1080p through the 606 for fear of it breaking.

Forums (for good reason) tend to be full of the complaints. Are there any 606 owners out there running non-modified, non-repaired 606's that are doing absolutely fine with 1080p and with no issues?
post #9176 of 9462
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Originally Posted by nlpearman View Post

So I've been running my 606 to my 480p LG plasma for a couple years now. Flawless operation. No dramas.

Now I plan to upgrade to the new Panny ST30 which is 1080p, and lots of 606 owners have had issues running 1080p through their 606's.

So, I'm scared to run 1080p through the 606 for fear of it breaking.

Forums (for good reason) tend to be full of the complaints. Are there any 606 owners out there running non-modified, non-repaired 606's that are doing absolutely fine with 1080p and with no issues?

Both my 606s have been running solid since day-one (about two years for one, over 2 years for the other?) running 1080p24 content (and 1080i60). The HDMI daughterboard issues might be related to upconversion from component (my opinion based on what I've read, not scientific), not passthough of the 1080p HDMI signals. What source(s) do you have?

shinksma
post #9177 of 9462
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Originally Posted by nlpearman View Post

So I've been running my 606 to my 480p LG plasma for a couple years now. Flawless operation. No dramas.

Now I plan to upgrade to the new Panny ST30 which is 1080p, and lots of 606 owners have had issues running 1080p through their 606's.

So, I'm scared to run 1080p through the 606 for fear of it breaking.

Forums (for good reason) tend to be full of the complaints. Are there any 606 owners out there running non-modified, non-repaired 606's that are doing absolutely fine with 1080p and with no issues?

My TiVo runs 1080i but my PS3 runs 1080p and I haven't had any problems in the 2 1/2 years I've had it yet...knock on wood. But I also run a fan over the top of the unit to help with heat dissipation.
post #9178 of 9462
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

Both my 606s have been running solid since day-one (about two years for one, over 2 years for the other?) running 1080p24 content (and 1080i60). The HDMI daughterboard issues might be related to upconversion from component (my opinion based on what I've read, not scientific), not passthough of the 1080p HDMI signals. What source(s) do you have?

shinksma

Thanks to you and ned4spd for your replies.

The only HD source I have currently is a PS3. I might get an HD Scientific Atlanta cable box soon. My ATV2 is 720p only, of course.

Nice to hear that 1080p is working fine for some folks.
post #9179 of 9462
Well, I called Onkyo and they have agreed to fix the 606 (thanks again Devil98). I was just so fed up with frustration that I didn't even take the time and consider asking Onkyo to repair even though I was out of a warranty (purchased in November 2008).

Anyway, I just faxed them the information so I'm waiting to hear from them. The representative said I should hear baxk within 3 business days.
post #9180 of 9462
I have a 606 and I bought 3 USB fans to put on top of it. I have the fans hooked up to a powered USB hub, which is connected to the USB port on my Samsung LCD. Now as soon as I power up my LCD to watch TV or Blu-Rays, my fans turn on and stay on till I shut down my TV. The only concession I make is I still turn off the 606 a couple of minutes before turning off my TV, so as to help dissipate any heat rather than letting it cool down on it's own.

The other up side of this is that my fans are not running 24/7 anymore.

Ghpr13
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