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post #9241 of 9462
>I'll be happy to answer questions, but I can't guarantee a speedy response as >I work a lot.

I know this is a very old thread but I'm not sure where else to ask.

I bought one of these used and had to repair the famous HDMI/OSD issues which I did. Now the receiver seems to work perfectly but there are two things I simply have not been able to figure out.

One
The remote control constantly seems to stop working. I know about hitting the 'receiver' button before others but that doesn't work. When I am finally able to hit the right combination, it only lasts a few moments then stops responding again. No receive/confirm light.

I know the remote is ok, at least, I can see other devices reacting to it's transmit and it's got new batteries. There seems to be some trick and I've yet to find it, even after resetting the remote.

Two
I cannot find a way to input a composite signal to have it come out of the main HDMI port. HDMI inputs switch just fine and I've gone through the various settings but cannot find a solution to getting composite out of HDMI.

I don't even care if the video is upconverted or not, I just wanted this receiver to be able to switch composite/component/HDMI out to one single port. I have been using a mix of complicated switching and wanted to simplify things.

Any help from you or other 606 users would be so appreciated. I've posted asking help in the forums a few times now with no replies.

Thanks very much.
post #9242 of 9462
I too went through the HDMI/OSD problem and fixed them thanks to input from old threads.

I am still facing two issues and cannot seem to find anywhere what so ever that has any active users or folks that might at least remember these units enough to help someone out.

The two issues are;

Remote does not seem to work. Commands are a hit and miss. I've reset the remote, I do press Receiver before other buttons but when it finally works, it only works for a few commands then stops.

The other issue is that I do not know how to output composite through the HDMI port. I could care less if the signal is upconverted, I just wanted this receiver to consolidate all of my hardware.

I sure would appreciate help or a lead on where I can get some.

Thanks.
post #9243 of 9462
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Originally Posted by nlsteele View Post

And the good news is that Onkyo has come around to seeing things from their consumer's perspective and so are generally honoring one-time out of warranty fixes for HDMI board issues. You'll each want to contact Onkyo support to get the process started; have your purchase information ready (date, seller).

I have emailed Onkyo customer support twice over the past couple of weeks and have not received a single response from them. Not even to acknowledge that they received my email and will get back to me. I am very disappointed as I have been a loyal Onkyo customer since 1976. I had to buy another receiver, but it sure wasn't Onkyo this time.
post #9244 of 9462
I think my next hardware will be good ol American made stuff before it vanishes completely. Time to pay a little extra and perhaps get support from a company that gives a hoot about customers. This overseas stuff is getting to be long in the tooth. I can't count how many complaints I've seen from people saying they are just plain left hanging.
post #9245 of 9462
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Originally Posted by rjom View Post

I have emailed Onkyo customer support twice over the past couple of weeks and have not received a single response from them. Not even to acknowledge that they received my email and will get back to me. I am very disappointed as I have been a loyal Onkyo customer since 1976. I had to buy another receiver, but it sure wasn't Onkyo this time.

I bought a nicer (Japanese) Denon unit to replace my 606 before I got the post warranty repairs and put it in the bedroom (their Chinese units suffer lots of ills).

Try calling Onkyo instead of emailing. Most people have had more success going that route first. They'll have you email your information to them, but it'll get you connected to a service rep who will be responsible for your case.
post #9246 of 9462
I've had the HDMI problems and the service center replaced the capacitors so mine is working fine (for now anyway!). A buddy of mine has a 606 that keeps tripping out. By that I mean the internal amp shuts itself down when the volume is turned up. He's had it in to the shop and they have told him there may be an impedence issue the speakers or maybe a stray wire???? They are Klipsch speakers. Any ideas?
post #9247 of 9462
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Originally Posted by angryht View Post

I've had the HDMI problems and the service center replaced the capacitors so mine is working fine (for now anyway!). A buddy of mine has a 606 that keeps tripping out. By that I mean the internal amp shuts itself down when the volume is turned up. He's had it in to the shop and they have told him there may be an impedence issue the speakers or maybe a stray wire???? They are Klipsch speakers. Any ideas?

The shop sounds right on this one. It's usually a stray wire touching the back of the AVR and shorting (use banana plugs), or his speakers could have a particularly challenging impedance (<4u) along their frequency response range that causes it to overdrive and shut down. This is often true of speakers with larger drivers in paired designs, which many Klipsch offerings have. Given Klipsch's usual sensitivities, though, I'd suspect bad speaker connection wiring first.
post #9248 of 9462
Thanks, nl, I appreciate the troubleshooting advice!
post #9249 of 9462
You're very welcome!
post #9250 of 9462
Hello everyone.

My receiver was bought in December of 2008 and is out of warranty. However, I went to the ONKYO site, sent an email to the service department describing my issue and that I have seen numerous people with similar issues on the forums. ONKYO agreed to do a one time fix.

I sent my receiver to a location in Atlanta GA and it should be back in a few weeks.

Interesting Note: I believe the source of the problem will still be existing, so I will need to change where I place my receiver so it can have more air circulation. I may even put a small fan behind it and keep it running.

Dwaine
post #9251 of 9462
Same deal for my 606 bought back in Aug. 2008. I had to ship it all the way to Syracuse, NY though. Seems like Atlanta would have been a lot closer....and quicker.

Doesn't the repair (or upgrade as United Radio is calling it) solve the problem w/ the board not handling the heat? Or should I still try to mount a fan?
post #9252 of 9462
The repair replaces capacitors with heavier duty ones that can bear the heat better. They may fail eventually too, but certainly not at the seeming one-year rate of the old ones. If you find ways to better ventilate your 606 (more space around it; a cooler location; fans to draw air through it; etc.) it will certainly extend the life of those and other elements. How much is debatable, as is how long the new caps would last under normal use.
post #9253 of 9462
All this talk about peoples units dying and needing repair is scaring me. I've had my 606 for about 3-4 years now. I haven't had a problem (yet), but I've also always had a fan on top of it to help with heat dissipation. As well as a good 6" of clearance above it.

I'm starting to wonder if I might be hurting myself in the long run by babying this thing too much. For example, what if it lasts another 3-4 years before these problems arise. Will Onkyo still repair it for free like it has for all these other people?

Is there a way I can get it repaired now even though I'm not having issues. Since it is a known issue, would it be kinda like a recall thing where they could preemptively fix it?
post #9254 of 9462
Quote:
Originally Posted by ned4spd8874 View Post

All this talk about peoples units dying and needing repair is scaring me. I've had my 606 for about 3-4 years now. I haven't had a problem (yet), but I've also always had a fan on top of it to help with heat dissipation. As well as a good 6" of clearance above it.

I'm starting to wonder if I might be hurting myself in the long run by babying this thing too much. For example, what if it lasts another 3-4 years before these problems arise. Will Onkyo still repair it for free like it has for all these other people?

Is there a way I can get it repaired now even though I'm not having issues. Since it is a known issue, would it be kinda like a recall thing where they could preemptively fix it?

ned4spd8874,

There's a guy on eBay that will do the HDMI switching problem repair for 75.00 including return shipping. Just search for Onkyo TX-SR606 and look for the listing that says "HDMI Repair Service." He has an excellent track record (based on his feedback). And, yes, it's probably just a matter of time before you will need it. Onkyo used very low voltage-rated capacitors (4V) and not the highest available temperature-rated parts (they used 85 degrees C vs 105 degrees C which is now readily available). So, once you have these guys on your HDMI card, you should be good for years!

Just a thought . . .
post #9255 of 9462
Quote:
Originally Posted by ned4spd8874 View Post

All this talk about peoples units dying and needing repair is scaring me. I've had my 606 for about 3-4 years now. I haven't had a problem (yet), but I've also always had a fan on top of it to help with heat dissipation. As well as a good 6" of clearance above it.

I'm starting to wonder if I might be hurting myself in the long run by babying this thing too much. For example, what if it lasts another 3-4 years before these problems arise. Will Onkyo still repair it for free like it has for all these other people?

Is there a way I can get it repaired now even though I'm not having issues. Since it is a known issue, would it be kinda like a recall thing where they could preemptively fix it?

I, too, am in the same boat. I have had my 606 since 2008. I have 3 USB fans on top of it that run whenever my TV is on. The only time I really push the 606 is when I'm watching BD. Otherwise it usually set at a moderate level. So far no problems from my 606. I've thought about sending it in for "repairs" too, but I hate the ideal of paying the shipping and waiting 3-5 weeks to get it back. IMO, if it last another 3-4 years, I'll be very happy and will probably be in the market for a new A/V receiver at that time anyway. I'm more frighten of it acting up in the next year. If that happens, like ned4spd8874 is wondering, will Onkyo still do a free fix on it???

No clear cut answer, but I do like DBacksFan5205 solution of possibly using the ebay guy for a low cost fix if Onkyo won't flip the bill if needed.

Ghpr13
post #9256 of 9462
It looks like as long as you give it lots of air circulation, this unit will last a long time. I'm sure that's how Onkyo tested it and that's why they decided to save a few bucks by putting in cheaper capacitors. There have been capacitors rated up to 125C around for at least ten years.

I've been choking my cheap Yamaha replacement for three years in the spot where the SR606 steadily died in a just few months.
post #9257 of 9462
Hello all. I am in the process of repairing the HDMI board on my receiver and I'm having trouble figuring out how to remove one of the cables. It's a black 5-wire cable that goes from the HDMI board to the board underneath it. I'm not sure if the wires just pull out like the other flat cable or if I need to pull the connector. Thanks for the help.
post #9258 of 9462
Press down on the white connector and the cable will come right out.
post #9259 of 9462
Thanks for getting back to me. I did just about everything but that. Got the wires out and got them back in though. Looks like everything is working. FYI to anyone out there planning to do this repair there a Youtube video detailing how to do it. But he only says to get 5 capacitors. There are 10 of the 100 mf 4V capacitors on this board. He probably got lucky replacing the ones he did to get his system back. I ended up replacing three and I got my HDMI back. So I would recommend getting 15 capacitors because they are fragile and the leads can break off easily.
post #9260 of 9462
Well I replaced the capacitors on my HDMI board, but when putting everything back together, I crossed two of the wires that go into the white connector. Once I corrected the problem, (after powering up), the receiver just clicks. What did I do and is there a way to correct my mistake?
post #9261 of 9462
That group of 5 wires looks like it supplies the power which is probably bad news if you reversed the wires. There is hope though because it looks like the voltages are all the same. The labels on my board say; GND, 12V, GND, 12V, GND. Most semiconductors (the chips on the board) operate at 5 volts. Theres probably a circuit on the board that converts one of the 12 volts to 5 volts and it may have blown out. Do you get anything on the receiver? Display, Sound or Video (non HDMI)? If not, you might check to see if a fuse blew. I would also double check the connectors to make sure everything is plugged in.
post #9262 of 9462
I get nothing on the display. When I plug it in the red light for standyby is on. When I press the power button I just get a clicking noise with nothing else, no display. I changed the 2 fuses that are easily visable but no change.
post #9263 of 9462
I believe that two of the wires got put into the same hole. If this makes sense, looking at the HDMI board with the HDMI connections at the top, the connections for the white connector has 5 holes. I think the 4th and 5th wires touched and got put into the same hole.
post #9264 of 9462
The two wires touching is unfortunate. That means that they most likely created a short that damaged some other component on the unit. Since you're not getting anything it's probably some part of the power converter circuit that converts the AC voltage to DC. On the plus side the HDMI board is probably OK. If I remember correctly that five wire cable connects to a board thats underneath the HDMI board. You can inspect the board components and see if anything looks burnt out. If so replace the component(s) and see if the system powers up. Otherwise you're going to have to decide if you want to repair or replace the unit. FYI, I was looking at replacements yesterday (prior to completing my repair) and I saw a nice Denon unit. The AVR1612. It's available from several retailers for Around $349 and it's got a lot of good reviews.
post #9265 of 9462
Thanks for the suggestions. I will take a look at the other boards and see if I can do anything.
post #9266 of 9462
Nothing I can see on the other boards that appears to be blown.
Any suggestions from anyone would be welcome.
post #9267 of 9462
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Originally Posted by tharry View Post

Nothing I can see on the other boards that appears to be blown.
Any suggestions from anyone would be welcome.

I had the same thing happen to me. Turns out that there is a hidden fuse related to shorting out the 12V lines on the HDMI white 5-wire connector. Look at your huge transformer. See the green boards connected to the transformer? There should be a label that says "5A/125V" and a hole through that board that allows you to see the condition of the fuse which is mounted on the underside of this small green board. I replaced this (blown) fuse and the problems you describe went away. Hope this helps!
post #9268 of 9462
Thanks for all the great information this forum provides. I, too, was experiencing the common "no signal" message when trying to connect with my PS3. To get a signal from my Directv HD DVR I usually needed to switch inputs back and forth before the input was active.

After reading about the success some of you were having changing out the 4 capacitors identified by Onkyo I decided it was worth a try. I had fixed my wife's Samsung LCD power issue by replacing capacitors, however; that was my only experience with soldering.

It took some time to desolder the faulty capacitor but eventually I was able to solder the new 100uf 35v capacitors (Radio Shack). I plugged in the unit and fired up the PS3 input. I heard a click and the picture came up immediately. I switched over to Directv and same thing...instantaneous HDMI switching

Going on Day 4 and absolutely ZERO issues. The entire fix costed me six bucks and about 2 hours of my time.

Thanks again for all the wonderful input from everyone!
post #9269 of 9462
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Originally Posted by DBacksFan5205 View Post

I had the same thing happen to me. Turns out that there is a hidden fuse related to shorting out the 12V lines on the HDMI white 5-wire connector. Look at your huge transformer. See the green boards connected to the transformer? There should be a label that says "5A/125V" and a hole through that board that allows you to see the condition of the fuse which is mounted on the underside of this small green board. I replaced this (blown) fuse and the problems you describe went away. Hope this helps!

WOW!! I love these forums. You were right on the fuse. Replaced fuse and everything seems to be up and running smooth.

You saved me from buying a new unit. Again thanks to everyone you helps out.
post #9270 of 9462
I too can not get an OSD. I do not get the "no signal" message. I only have 1 HDMI cable to TV (DVD and Dish box feed the 606). Never have a problem with the HDMI switching. I hadn't checked tweaked my Audyssey settings in a couple years and thought I'd do it yesterday, but it's very difficult without the OSD. Until my switching fails, I really don't want to send it in (or do it myself). Anything I should try to make sure it is (or is not) the capacitors?
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