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post #9331 of 9462
i picked mine up 2 weeks after i took it in to a local shop. they also replaced the capacitors, and i haven't had any problems since. much cheaper ($0) than buying a new receiver.

so why exactly can't our units support 3d?
post #9332 of 9462
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Originally Posted by tuffluck View Post

so why exactly can't our units support 3d?

The standard didn't exist when the receiver was released years ago so it couldn't be supported.

You don't really think that Onyko would develop a firmware upgrade to support it, did you? Does your name mean nothing, tuffluck.

My first receiver from around 2002 was HDMI 1.0 (a single port!) so it didn't support many Blu-ray features, not even 24 fps.
post #9333 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Priest77 View Post

Replace an old reliable Onkyo 737 to get the TrueHD...So far, I like the amp and ALL the features - wow, a lot for the cash. I do my own setup, using the Avia DVD - ran into an odd scenario - any feedback appreciated. I let Audyssey run first, and it set FCR crossover at 80hz - seemed OK. Double Bass is therefore off (only on for Full Range). After setting the levels etc. with Avia, I ran some plunge tones to test the hand-offs and bass management. To my surprise, the amp did not hand anything off to the sub when the tone went below the 80hz FCR crossover point. If I set the FCR speakers to full range, assume it won't either. Therefore, the only way to get LF sound managed (handed off to sub) would seem to be full range LCR and Double Bass. This seems strange, or maybe I missed something - I repeated the test several times. Two questions:

1) Has anyone seen a really good description of Onkyo bass management (still looking for one that satisfies my tech curiosity)? Does turning off double bass = no bass management?
2) Has anyone else seen this situation?

Many thanks.
jrp

I seem to be having this same problem. When I set the 606 crossover to 80 Hz, the subwoofer tone from Avia is almost all coming from the speakers??? I have DoubleBass set to OFF. Anybody else have similar problems with bass management?
post #9334 of 9462
I see I've asked this before but never got an answer.
post #9335 of 9462
What switch or special splitter can be used for 3d video and hd audio through the 606?
post #9336 of 9462
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Originally Posted by swak View Post

What switch or special splitter can be used for 3d video and hd audio through the 606?

You will not be able to make this work. I have spent a lot of time looking into this and unfortunately you cannot make it work without spending the money you would spend on a new receiver.

All the solutions out there repeat the signal but cannot re-direct the return HDCP signal for 3D. The only way the Repeaters/splitters work with 3D is if all devices are 3D compliant.
Basically if you get a splitter/repeater the 3D data will go out to and be repeated to the TV and to the receiver. The receiver will not know how to reply for the 3D HDCP handshake and thus will ignore the packets or return a null signal. Since the 3D player will not receive the signal or will get the null signal it will stop sending 3D data.

There are powered HDMI splitters that can complete the 3D data handshake for you and forward only the audio to the receiver, but they all cost more than a new 3D comparable receiver.

I have resigned to this fact and just bought last years NR609 model at half retail price---Through Vanns.com
post #9337 of 9462
What about a blu-ray player with 2 outputs, e.g. Panasonic 310?
post #9338 of 9462
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Originally Posted by angryht View Post

What about a blu-ray player with 2 outputs, e.g. Panasonic 310?

I have never seen this before but from what I read just now, it seems like it allows you to diverge the HDMI outputs to have one be for audio and one for Video.
I think you may have found a solution good sir.

**Edit.

Well that could have saved me at least $150. Oh well, at least I will have a new Receiver that has a built in fan and Burr-Brown DACS.
post #9339 of 9462
I actually have a panny 310, I was thinking about how to hook-up my boxee box for 3d and hdmi audio through the 606. would monoprice have a device like you mentioned? thanks for your reply.
post #9340 of 9462
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

There are powered HDMI splitters that can complete the 3D data handshake for you and forward only the audio to the receiver, but they all cost more than a new 3D comparable receiver.

I have seen several hdmi powered splitters that are suppossed to support 3d from monoprice that seem affordable but, none say they can send audio only from one output to the receiver? Would this work, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 or are you referring to something special?

I have three 3d sources; a PS3, BOXEE BOX, TIVO with cable card so would this work, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 ? One output to my 3d adapter, the other ouput to the 606?

Or maybe this one which has 2 inputs and 2 outputs, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #9341 of 9462
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post


I have never seen this before but from what I read just now, it seems like it allows you to diverge the HDMI outputs to have one be for audio and one for Video.
I think you may have found a solution good sir.

**Edit.

Well that could have saved me at least $150. Oh well, at least I will have a new Receiver that has a built in fan and Burr-Brown DACS.

Yep, that's the best way to go, in fact, that's why they started putting two HDMI outputs on some 3D players to take care of just that problem.
post #9342 of 9462
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Originally Posted by swak View Post


I have seen several hdmi powered splitters that are suppossed to support 3d from monoprice that seem affordable but, none say they can send audio only from one output to the receiver? Would this work, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 or are you referring to something special?

I just tried this and while the 3D video went to the tv, audio was not output from the receiver. I used new HDMI cables (24awg hi-speed) too.

I guess I need to decide whether to upgrade to a 3D compatible receiver (609?) and move the 606 to my bedroom.
post #9343 of 9462
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Originally Posted by lagsun View Post

I just tried this and while the 3D video went to the tv, audio was not output from the receiver. I used new HDMI cables (24awg hi-speed) too.

I guess I need to decide whether to upgrade to a 3D compatible receiver (609?) and move the 606 to my bedroom.

You probably have audio set to the amp rather than the TV. I tried using one of these as well but you can't have the audio go to the amp as well as the TV, it's one or the other I ran RCA audio to my TV in addition to the HDMI which then solves the problem which is not a big deal since the TV isn't going to produce 5.1 anyway from it's tiny speakers.
post #9344 of 9462
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Originally Posted by badgerpilot View Post


You probably have audio set to the amp rather than the TV. I tried using one of these as well but you can't have the audio go to the amp as well as the TV, it's one or the other I ran RCA audio to my TV in addition to the HDMI which then solves the problem which is not a big deal since the TV isn't going to produce 5.1 anyway from it's tiny speakers.

I used a 3D blu-ray from a PS3 as the source and was able to get sound from the TV if I set up audio to pass through the splitter and 606. Since I can direct connect the PS3 to my TV and then run optical from the TV back to the 606 already there no need for the splitter. Now I need to decide if I want 3D with 7.1 all the time or just switch cables when watching something 3D.
post #9345 of 9462
I am using optical from my PS3 to my to my 606. I want to split the hdmi but the splinter that is said to work is over $200 http://m.hdtvsupply.com/at-hd-v12.html
post #9346 of 9462
Has anyone else had this issue?:

I have 4 devices connected to my Onkyo via HDMI (Comcast box, DVD player, Blu-ray player and XBOX 360)

Except for the signal from the cable box, everything else takes a good 5-10 minutes before the Onkyo seems to detect a signal from the other devices and I get a picture. Almost as if it has to warm up.

If I go to watch TV, it comes up right away, and then later if I want to switch to one of the other activities they come up no problem. Its just when I try to do them from a cold start.
post #9347 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker View Post

Has anyone else had this issue?:

I have 4 devices connected to my Onkyo via HDMI (Comcast box, DVD player, Blu-ray player and XBOX 360)

Except for the signal from the cable box, everything else takes a good 5-10 minutes before the Onkyo seems to detect a signal from the other devices and I get a picture. Almost as if it has to warm up.

If I go to watch TV, it comes up right away, and then later if I want to switch to one of the other activities they come up no problem. Its just when I try to do them from a cold start.

Snowmaker,

Your description sounds to me like the VERY typical 606 HDMI switching problem. You can get it fixed quickly and very reasonably by going to eBay and perform whatever search you need in order to locate the listing entitled:

"ONKYO TX-SR606 7.1 A/V RECEIVER HDMI REPAIR SERVICE"

This guy has outstanding feedback and exceptionally fast turnaround time.

Best of luck to you!
post #9348 of 9462
Call Onkyo first. They have done the repair out of warranty for some. It's worth a try before paying. If they don't, the eBay fix is reasonable like the previous poster mentioned or you can fix it yourself if you can solder. There is a thread on AVS with step by step instructions. Good luck.
post #9349 of 9462
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Originally Posted by badgerpilot View Post

Call Onkyo first. They have done the repair out of warranty for some. It's worth a try before paying. If they don't, the eBay fix is reasonable like the previous poster mentioned or you can fix it yourself if you can solder. There is a thread on AVS with step by step instructions. Good luck.

Thanks. I can solder, if I had a soldering iron. Do you happen to have a link to the thread?

I'll see what I can do first. I'd hate to have to send it off somewhere.
post #9350 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker View Post

Has anyone else had this issue?:

I have 4 devices connected to my Onkyo via HDMI (Comcast box, DVD player, Blu-ray player and XBOX 360)

Except for the signal from the cable box, everything else takes a good 5-10 minutes before the Onkyo seems to detect a signal from the other devices and I get a picture. Almost as if it has to warm up.

If I go to watch TV, it comes up right away, and then later if I want to switch to one of the other activities they come up no problem. Its just when I try to do them from a cold start.

My problem is a bit different: Comcast takes about 50 seconds, my appletv and sony BluRay connect in about 5 seconds.
post #9351 of 9462
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Originally Posted by artshotwell View Post

My problem is a bit different: Comcast takes about 50 seconds, my appletv and sony BluRay connect in about 5 seconds.

Yeah, my Comcast takes a little time, its not instant, but not 50 seconds. If I left the box on all the time it probably would be instant.

I contacted support via their website and gave the serial # and the issue. If they approve an out-of-warranty repair, I show they have an authorized service center about 25 miles from me. Beats shipping it if they let me take it there.

I found the thread with the step-by-step DiY instructions, but don't want to do that if they're willing to fix it for me.

Which number did you guys call, the toll-free one, or the "201" area code one?
post #9352 of 9462
The toll free number. Be prepared to sit on hold.
post #9353 of 9462
Found this video on YouTube.


Just wish I had snagged a set of irons from my old job before they closed. I had nice ones in my office, but the company that bought us out tagged them and knew I had them.
post #9354 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker View Post


Yeah, my Comcast takes a little time, its not instant, but not 50 seconds. If I left the box on all the time it probably would be instant.

I contacted support via their website and gave the serial # and the issue. If they approve an out-of-warranty repair, I show they have an authorized service center about 25 miles from me. Beats shipping it if they let me take it there.

I found the thread with the step-by-step DiY instructions, but don't want to do that if they're willing to fix it for me.

Which number did you guys call, the toll-free one, or the "201" area code one?

I probably should have mentioned that I leave my Comcast box all the time.
post #9355 of 9462
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Originally Posted by artshotwell View Post


I probably should have mentioned that I leave my Comcast box all the time.

I mean ON all the time.
post #9356 of 9462
I just called Onkyo (had to call the 201 number for service). I was only on hold for maybe 2 minutes and then a guy came on and said I have to first email them all my info and they'll get back to me. He at least was familiar with the issue when I mentioned it.

So now I play the waiting game.......


At least my Harmony One arrived yesterday (replacement for my crapped out 620), so that's one issue resolved at least.
post #9357 of 9462
hello im new here, and this is my first post, my onkyo tx-sr606 is dead, i check the unit, and all the fuse are ok, except for the volume ic which is burned very badly. i order replacement of this ic and installed it... and also replaced the two +15v and -15v regulator ic, but no luck. the unit wont power on, any help is very much appreciated, i search the forum for a service manual for this unit, i cant find any... if anyone generous enough to share his service manual, i really appreciate it. thank you..
post #9358 of 9462
I unhooked mine from everything this morning and took it in to the service center. They say it will be about 2 weeks until I get it back.
post #9359 of 9462
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker View Post

I unhooked mine from everything this morning and took it in to the service center. They say it will be about 2 weeks until I get it back.

Wow, you're lucky. my local shop had to keep move for 6 weeks. They had to order a replacement hdmi board.
post #9360 of 9462
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

Wow, you're lucky. my local shop had to keep move for 6 weeks. They had to order a replacement hdmi board.

Got the call today that its ready for pick-up. 9 days only! I'll get it tomorrow.

I just hope all my level settings are still set. Does anyone know if they default stuff like that when repaired?
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