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post #151 of 185
8/20/09 at 7:15pm
^^^^^^^^
Sorry if I gave the impression that these downloads are free. They're not.
You have to have purchased Archives.
It has a plastic card with a code to get access to the down load site.
BTW, these flac downloads are not a sure thing.
A member on the Hoffman forum, ArchivesGuy has mentioned that lossless downloads were in the works but access is limited to Archive purchasers.
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post #152 of 185
8/20/09 at 8:12pm
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Good summary post at Thrasher's Wheat:

http://www.thrasherswheat.org/2009/0...-archives.html
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post #153 of 185
8/21/09 at 1:23pm
Should we consider this a discussion thread for Neil Young's release, or a general Blu-ray audio thread???
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post #154 of 185
8/21/09 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Should we consider this a discussion thread for Neil Young's release, or a general Blu-ray audio thread???

General Blu-ray, of course right now for rock anyway, we only have Neil. I was hoping Apple would release the remastered Beatles in Hi-Rez, DVD-A or BD.
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post #155 of 185
8/21/09 at 2:41pm
Yes, rock is lacking in the releases, but I just ordered the Quincy Jones 75th Birthday Celebration to see if we could get some decent content there. The Chris Botti stuff is nicely recorded, and shows off the format, but it's "easy listening" at best.
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post #156 of 185
8/21/09 at 2:59pm
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Yes, rock is lacking in the releases, but I just ordered the Quincy Jones 75th Birthday Celebration to see if we could get some decent content there. The Chris Botti stuff is nicely recorded, and shows off the format, but it's "easy listening" at best.

Whats on that disk? Is it in 5.1 BD. I'm not one to buy a disk just because it's recorded well. I collect 5.1 disks, mostly rock. I have well over a hundred 5.1DVD-A and SACD disks. Problem is there are only a few more left to buy or should I say, I want. I thought that music on BD would take off. I read there are more BD players out there than DVD-A and SACD players combined. So there should be a growing market.
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post #157 of 185
8/21/09 at 3:20pm
Yes, a growing market, but I think it's still too expensive to produce to begin with as compared to plain ol' CDs. Considering the market has gone to downloading MP3s, how many labels are willing to "grow" into the Blu-ray disc market? Chris Botti is 7.1 and the Quincy Jones concert is 5.1. The review of the Jones disc by Forum member JWhip on www.intotheblu.com led me to buy this one.
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post #158 of 185
8/22/09 at 7:46pm
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I like Neil Young but I'm sorry, $34.99 plus shipping for a BD disk is absurd. He's milking his supporters.

This is the wrong economy to fleecing your fans but of course value is a personal decision and some will lap it up. That's their choice.

Neil isn't milking anyone on this. Based on the relatively modest number of buyers for a project of this scope he'll be lucky to break even, let alone make obscene profits.
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post #159 of 185
8/22/09 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by kevin j View Post

If hi res on Blu ray's to really take off there needs to be Blu ray audio players in cars and portable Blu ray audio players[if the price is right i'd buy one in a heartbeat]imho.

Panasonic just announced an in-car Blu-ray player.
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post #160 of 185
8/22/09 at 11:18pm
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...not sure you'd hear the glory of 24/192 in-car, particularly while it's moving, but, well, there ya go...

Talk, got any inside info on whether or not Neil's licensed the platform to other artists?
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post #161 of 185
8/23/09 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by Talkstr8t View Post

Panasonic just announced an in-car Blu-ray player.

Wow, I can watch a HD movie in full 24/192 7.1 Surround Sound while I am driving to work.....sweeeeeet!


Seriously, I would be surprised if they made that unit 24/192 for a car, the road noise would make it worthless. I suppose this is really for the kids in the back seat to watch a HD movie but even then, I would think the small screen in a minivan would have trouble doing justice to the HD look. Since my kid is long gone not much here for me either way, since I really don't watch movies while I drive. The biggest advantage for people that do watch in cars is that the movie you buy for the HT is now compatible with the car player, you don't need two versions. I would be surprised if Hollywood doesn't try to stop this. I am sure they would rather make the public buy two versions.

BTW add my support to the comment someone made earlier about the disappointment the new Beatles releases are not available in 24/192. I would have definitely gone that route if I could. Knowing the industry, that version will be available in a year or two so I can buy the collection all over again. Is that being cynical or just being a realist?? I wonder?????
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post #162 of 185
8/23/09 at 9:42am
I do remember seeing that there will be a Blu ray version of the Beatles remasters in the next year or so so i'd say you're being a realist.
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post #163 of 185
8/23/09 at 12:51pm
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...not sure you'd hear the glory of 24/192 in-car, particularly while it's moving, but, well, there ya go...

Talk, got any inside info on whether or not Neil's licensed the platform to other artists?

I don't know about specifically licensing the platform, but it's reasonable to assume that Neil and his production folk are talking to other industry legends about putting out similar projects.

- Talk
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post #164 of 185
8/23/09 at 12:53pm
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The biggest advantage for people that do watch in cars is that the movie you buy for the HT is now compatible with the car player, you don't need two versions. I would be surprised if Hollywood doesn't try to stop this. I am sure they would rather make the public buy two versions.

There's nothing Hollywood can do even if they did want to stop it - the in-car version is still a legitimate Blu-ray player. Besides, many of the major releases now bundle a DVD with the Blu-ray Disc, so the studios appear to be looking to add value rather than force additional purchases.
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post #165 of 185
8/24/09 at 3:18am
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Originally Posted by kevin j View Post

I do remember seeing that there will be a Blu ray version of the Beatles remasters in the next year or so so i'd say you're being a realist.

This is something I'm very interested in. Do you have a link or a source for this info?
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post #166 of 185
8/24/09 at 7:27pm
It was talked about on Steve Hoffman's website[Stevehoffman.tv]
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post #167 of 185
8/25/09 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by kevin j View Post

I do remember seeing that there will be a Blu ray version of the Beatles remasters in the next year or so so i'd say you're being a realist.

Of course I find this out after I have already ordered the CD set. Oh well, I suppose I can sell the CD's next year when the Hi-Rez version is available. Sucks for me, great for the recording industry.
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post #168 of 185
8/25/09 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by JMartinko View Post

Of course I find this out after I have already ordered the CD set. Oh well, I suppose I can sell the CD's next year when the Hi-Rez version is available. Sucks for me, great for the recording industry.

I ordered the CDs and I knew that the hi-res versions were\\are a distinct possibility.
Martinko, which Beatles set did you order? Stereo or mono?
I ordered the mono set.
2 weeks tomorrow
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post #169 of 185
8/25/09 at 8:45pm
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sorry, guys... I don't mean to be a party pooper, but thought y'all would like to know there already is a thread discussing the Beatles stuff (un-ironically also started by me - who knew that the same demographic buying NYA would buy these!)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1160414
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post #170 of 185
8/26/09 at 6:51am
Shark, despite the inclusion of Neil Young in the title, we've established that this is a discussion thread for BluRay audio, and not just the archive set.
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post #171 of 185
8/27/09 at 11:36am
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I ordered the CDs and I knew that the hi-res versions were\\are a distinct possibility.
Martinko, which Beatles set did you order? Stereo or mono?
I ordered the mono set.
2 weeks tomorrow

I ordered the stereo set. I have most of the early albums in vinyl in mono, and in my own case as a kid, when the albums were first released I always bought the stereo copy after Rubber Soul and relished the stereo mixes of the later albums like Sgt. Peppers and the White album. I played recording engineer for a few local bands as a youth, and learned a lot of mixing techniques from listening to the stereo tracks one side at a time. I debated long and hard about the trade, but since I already still have most of them in vinyl in the English Parlaphone (?) release I went for the stereo version. I haven't played the records in ages in fear of damaging them. I recently upgraded to a new turntable (ProJect, not a real pricey one), and may pull some of them out now for a spin and comparison. I actually considered buying both, but had a hunch there might be a high rez version out some day, and thought I just can't justify that many copies.
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post #172 of 185
8/27/09 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post

I ordered the CDs and I knew that the hi-res versions were\\are a distinct possibility.
Martinko, which Beatles set did you order? Stereo or mono?
I ordered the mono set.
2 weeks tomorrow

You do need something to play in the car anyway.
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post #173 of 185
8/27/09 at 11:52am
I was researching the Beatle remasters hoping to find something about BD or high Rez. When I came across a listing of the engineers and other projects that they worked on. One project was remastering and remixing of the Lennon Legend CD/DVD. The DVD is in 5.1 Dolby and PCM, I assume the PCM is 24/48. I ordered it. Reviews of the 5.1 mix were very good. Video content held mixed opinions. Maybe this will be released on BD DTS Master.
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post #174 of 185
8/27/09 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by tmauceri View Post

You do need something to play in the car anyway.

Hey your right!
AFA Beatles hi-res, likely would be Giles Martin as he is doing the 5.1 for Rock Band and already did Love.
The digital masters are now 24/192 sooo on would hope that 24/96 would be the standard for any hi-res release.
I just thought of something, 24/192 mono blu-rays!
That would be cool.
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post #175 of 185
9/2/09 at 8:07am
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I watched/listened to the BluRay of John Mayall's 70th Birthday Concert last night and was blown away by the sound of the DTS-HD Master Audio track. I was not all that familiar with Mayall's work before, but am a fan now. The surround mix is especially good at highlighting the various instrumentalists - Mick Taylor's guitar in the left front, Eric Clapton's in the right along with some great trombone work by Chris Barber.
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post #176 of 185
9/2/09 at 7:21pm
According to what I read on Steve Hoffman's website a source at EMI has said that there'll be no Blu ray versions of the Beatles reissues[sorry].......I also read that there'll be a new Tom Petty live anthology that'll have a deluxe edition that'll include a Blu Ray disc[no mention of surround but we'll see] for $100.
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post #177 of 185
9/4/09 at 1:21am
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Just got this e-mail from the TP website:

"We are very excited to announce the upcoming release of Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers' The Live Anthology, a multiple disc set of recordings drawn from thirty years of live performances. The collection brings together material from 1978-2007 culled from hundreds of hours of live concert recordings covering every era of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ tours and represents the best tracks as chosen by producers Tom Petty, Mike Campbell and Ryan
Ulyate.

Along with powerful interpretations of their own classic hits and originals, The Live Anthology features the band tackling some of their best-loved cover material, from classics to obscure beauties to unexpected adaptations. The theme from TomPetty.com Announcing 'The Live Anthology'Goldfinger, the Zombies’ “I Want You Back Again,” the Grateful Dead’s “Friend of the Devil,” early Fleetwood Mac’s “Oh Well,” Booker T. and the MGs “Green Onions”, James Brown’s “Good, Good Lovin’” and many more. The Live Anthology is the band’s story told through the music alone; the producers made no fixes or overdubs.

In addition to offering The Live Anthology via digital outlets including iTunes, The Live Anthology will be available in the following four configurations, each with artwork and packaging by renowned contemporary artist Shepard Fairey (Studio Number One, Obey Giant).

1. A four CD set of 48 tracks.

2. A deluxe box set featuring 62 tracks on five CDs PLUS
- Two previously unreleased DVDs including the 1978 New Year’s Eve concert from Santa Monica, CA and the Martyn Atkins documentary 400 Days shot during the recording and tour for Wildflowers.

- A re-mastered vinyl of the 1976 Official Live 'Leg bootleg.

- A High Resolution Blu-ray Audio Disc featuring all 62 tracks in both stereo and 5.1 surround sound. This disc has 256 times more audio resolution than a CD.

- AND MUCH MORE (see details below).

3. A seven LP vinyl box set mastered directly from the uncompressed 24-bit 96K files and pressed on audiophile quality high performance vinyl.

4. The entirely unique Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers Superhighway Tour

The Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers Superhighway Tour is a first of its kind digital tour experience that delivers to ticketholders 24 of the 48 Live Anthology tracks over an 8 week advance period. During this period ticketholders will receive an insider’s view of those 24 tracks, whether through archived memorabilia, new band commentary, classic reviews from the vaults, and more amassed rare vintage Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers content.

Upon the official street date of the album ticket holders will digitally receive the remaining 24 tracks on The Live Anthology, thereby completing the entire album.

Tickets for the entire 8 week SuperHighway Tour will go onsale soon and the Tour will start with a FREE PREVIEW including a FREE DOWNLOAD from The Live Anthology."

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I highlighted the relevant portions. The part about memorablia, reviews, classic content etc for digital download would at least for me seem likely to be used for the blu-ray as well but that's just my interpretation.
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post #178 of 185
9/4/09 at 3:31am
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Just got this e-mail from the TP website:

"We are very excited to announce the upcoming release of Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers' The Live Anthology, a multiple disc set of recordings drawn from thirty years of live performances. The collection brings together material from 1978-2007 culled from hundreds of hours of live concert recordings covering every era of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' tours and represents the best tracks as chosen by producers Tom Petty, Mike Campbell and Ryan
Ulyate.

Along with powerful interpretations of their own classic hits and originals, The Live Anthology features the band tackling some of their best-loved cover material, from classics to obscure beauties to unexpected adaptations. The theme from TomPetty.com Announcing 'The Live Anthology'Goldfinger, the Zombies' I Want You Back Again, the Grateful Dead's Friend of the Devil, early Fleetwood Mac's Oh Well, Booker T. and the MGs Green Onions, James Brown's Good, Good Lovin' and many more. The Live Anthology is the band's story told through the music alone; the producers made no fixes or overdubs.

In addition to offering The Live Anthology via digital outlets including iTunes, The Live Anthology will be available in the following four configurations, each with artwork and packaging by renowned contemporary artist Shepard Fairey (Studio Number One, Obey Giant).

1. A four CD set of 48 tracks.

2. A deluxe box set featuring 62 tracks on five CDs PLUS
- Two previously unreleased DVDs including the 1978 New Year's Eve concert from Santa Monica, CA and the Martyn Atkins documentary 400 Days shot during the recording and tour for Wildflowers.

- A re-mastered vinyl of the 1976 Official Live 'Leg bootleg.

- A High Resolution Blu-ray Audio Disc featuring all 62 tracks in both stereo and 5.1 surround sound. This disc has 256 times more audio resolution than a CD.

- AND MUCH MORE (see details below).

3. A seven LP vinyl box set mastered directly from the uncompressed 24-bit 96K files and pressed on audiophile quality high performance vinyl.

4. The entirely unique Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers Superhighway Tour

The Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers Superhighway Tour is a first of its kind digital tour experience that delivers to ticketholders 24 of the 48 Live Anthology tracks over an 8 week advance period. During this period ticketholders will receive an insider's view of those 24 tracks, whether through archived memorabilia, new band commentary, classic reviews from the vaults, and more amassed rare vintage Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers content.

Upon the official street date of the album ticket holders will digitally receive the remaining 24 tracks on The Live Anthology, thereby completing the entire album.

Tickets for the entire 8 week SuperHighway Tour will go onsale soon and the Tour will start with a FREE PREVIEW including a FREE DOWNLOAD from The Live Anthology."

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I highlighted the relevant portions. The part about memorablia, reviews, classic content etc for digital download would at least for me seem likely to be used for the blu-ray as well but that's just my interpretation.

Is there a release date?
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post #179 of 185
9/4/09 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by jayna_95 View Post

Not sure if this is the right thread, but I watched/listened to the BluRay of John Mayall's 70th Birthday Concert last night and was blown away by the sound of the DTS-HD Master Audio track. I was not all that familiar with Mayall's work before, but am a fan now. The surround mix is especially good at highlighting the various instrumentalists - Mick Taylor's guitar in the left front, Eric Clapton's in the right along with some great trombone work by Chris Barber.

Get a copy of the album "The Turning Point" from John. Still one of my all time favorite albums.
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post #180 of 185
9/4/09 at 7:21pm
The Tom Petty set'll be out sometime in November.
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