Originally Posted by CT_Wiebe
The Pioneer Elite model warranty is only good if you live within 200 miles of the dealer (and have a store receipt). It will not be honored, if you buy it on-line.biglen
-- They are both good AVRs. The 1018 is not an Elite model and the VSX-01 is. The Elite models (usually) have more robust power supplies and some extra features. However, the Elite models have to be picked up in person, and you have to live within 200 miles of the store, or the warranty will be invalid (as I said above).
CT....I have no doubt that Pio is reigning in on-line sales...for the most obvious reason, to hold margin on their products. It's been discussed ad nauseum in these forums regarding this topic for a number of different manufacturers.
Setting price aside for a moment, I can't get as good of information at any dealer I've ever talked to from the biggest of the B&Ms that sell Elite (BB/Magnolia) as I can here. I don't even know where the nearest Elite B&M dealer is. I've got plenty of BBs...no Magnolias. Last time I was in Chicago, I paid a visit to ABT. I knew more than they did about Elite. Plus, they're 5 hours away from me.
So, B&M so far offers nothing to me as far as purchasing an Elite piece.
Finally, there's price. The swing is pretty big between B&M and on-line.
So, I take my chances in finding an authorized dealer who will sell to me on-line or over the phone.
That too, has its own perils....even and authorized dealer. Digital Bits is the most recent one. I've heard of that fiasco. But, that can happen to any store (bankrupt).
It also leaves open the question about what happens to warranty if someone moves, or your store goes out of business?
I don't see how Pio can enforce it, personally. Just like I don't see how any other manufacturer can enforce "non-warranty" claims on a piece that should have a warranty.
If they're authorized Elite dealers, and they sell on-line, outside of that 200 mile radius, I'll buy. The worst that can happen is I have to send my unit back to the selling dealer via Fed-Ex or UPS for warranty repairs.
Unauthorized dealers? Can't speak for them. I shy away from them, anyway. You never know if you've got "grey market" goods, whether they actually stand by the product if something goes wrong, etc.