The Official 9G Pioneer General Discussion Thread - Page 101

Just hang in there man. I was able to get in early on my local Tweeter list (Showcase) and not even on a national level so I'm in the same boat. I've been waiting for a long time and an extra 1.5 to 2 months are not going to kill me.

I'll be surprised if I get mine any earlier than mid to later July. I'm thinking more like mid to end of July early Aug.


Besides, I've got enough in my life keeping me busy and I really don't have lots of time to watch TV. But when I do it's going to be nice!

Will the new G9s need the break in DVD? If so, I'm going to buy one rather than download it because my computer cannot burn DVDs.

I know that some use full frame TV, though it's hard to find a channel that does not have some kind of frozen/attached call letter/artwork attached to their video signal. There's also been some debate if the break in DVD is hard on the display when compared to regular video.

+1. Same issues I had. Home Media Gallery was my must have for wanting the 8G Elite, and w/o the online discounts available on the 9G Elite, ordered the 5020FD and BDP-51FD from Robert last week. (Don't know what he was selling the 111FD for, because I was outside his market region to get a quote.)

I am curious about this as well. The only plasma I have ever owned was a floor model that was already broken in. I watch alot of HDTV, so can I use that instead as long as it fills the screen and has nothing permanent (like a callsign) on the screen?

And how careful do you have to be in the first couple hundred hours? Are things like the channel guide a problem if they aren't on screen for more than a minute?

Frankly this whole "Buy a Pioneer Blu-ray and a Pioneer AVR if you really want to get the best out of your Kuro!" sounds like so much blatant salesmanship/upselling I would frankly make sure any so-called expert who is trying to get you to bite on this doesn't have a vested interest in your wallet!

Nor would I buy anything from someone spreading this "information" without laying my eyes on the result myself.

Buying the Pioneer AVR and Pioneer Blu Ray if you want to get the best out of your Kuro is a true statement. I spoke to one of the forum gods and he told me about the features that are given when these units are combined together. I do not work on commision so you can't say that I have a vested interest in my wallet.

Hey Alex,
Which "god" would that be?
If he sells Pioneer, hmm.....I wonder.

P.S. You have been GREAT to deal with at Invision, can't wait to get my set!

Cheers!

Oh, yeah, will I need Pioneer HDMI cables with that? lol!

I agree! Some manufactures excel at different aspects of HT and some come up short. "Brand matching" seems so Joe-Six-Pack to me. I've been in to HT since the mid 90's and I've never had my display/video source/audio from the same manufacture. Pioneers upcoming BD players seem promising, so it's POSSIBLE I might actually have two out of three going here, but the AVR is something I can do better...Then again I'm in to seperates anyway.

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Robert, he is the man to talk to.

You mean the guy selling Pioneer equipment?

No offense, but seeing is believing. Also, I am a fan of resellerratings.com which ultimately was one of the reasons I went with Invision.

Again,
Cheers!

I just put down my deposit on a 5020 at Invision. I had been trying to decided between the 50 and 60. I saw the current gen Kuros at Best Buy Monday. I was shocked at how frickin huge the 60" was. I'll be putting it in a smallish room and that 60" was way too big.

I have a 50" RPTV right now. I guess the upgrade will be in image quality alone and not in size. That's alright, I can't wait!!!

I am certain (and I 'll bet that you are too) that this "sweet deal" is strictly for employees and MAYBE immediate family...so you are not being any "friend" asking another to get your rearski a big discount. You are setting your "friend" up to get f-i-r-e-d.

Anybody have the 5020/6020 power requirements numbers? thank YOU.

Exactly. Why is his name DTV Tivo salesman (or something along that line). If he was biased or if he only sold pioneers, wouldn't it be Pioneer salesman. Wild, if you went with invision, but an invision employee suggests a competitor (kind of), wouldn't it mean that the competitor is really good and knows what he is talking about. Robert saw, and Robert believed. As you said, seeing is believing.

Gotcha, didn't know which "Robert" he was referring to.

I stand corrected/admonished

Lord knows I don't want to incur the wrath of ..... well, anyway, sorry if I offended!

I agree. I only use one connection on the TV, the HDMI port. I have all my components connected to my Pioneer receiver.

Fired is right they did away with family using the Best Buy discount because it was being abused like no other. Plus, they monitor what they buy and how many of the same items they buy. Also, paying cash for an employee purchase is a dead give away.

Trust in Robert, he will not steer you wrong.

Here's a montage of info about matching the new Pioneer components I've gathered from AVS. I'm just the messenger, so you can take it for what it's worth...

Personally, I think it will help...particularly the settings on the new Pioneer Blu-ray players.

The new Pioneer players will have a "Pioneer PDP" mode (and other modes such as CRT, etc.)

"The new BD players, when set to Pioneer PDP output mode, sends data that takes full advantage of PDPs dither and virtual grayscale driving technique."

Now about the deep color feature with the new Pioneer Blu-ray players...
There is some debate if the higher bit color feature is more true to the signal or not, however from what I'm reading it seems to help when there's gradation of colors and show up as smooth looking as oppose to seeing lines (bands of color).

U need an avr with HDMI 1.3 plus Deep Color support. Not all 1.3 avrs support deep color (it doesn't have to). plus, as of now there are not 444 12bit src (apart from a few boutique video processors) so not really tested. Now with the pio planning 12 bit 444 output, we will see another wave of new receiver models that support this.

The new Pioneer receivers will have...
HDMI Deep Color / 30-bit / 36-bit 4:4:4 color depth / X.V. Color Support"

Yes, everyone buy from Alex!!!

Dude, it is best buy, not exactly a career!!! If you get fired from BB you can always go work at Circuit City or Walmart

The 8th gens dont NEED them it is just recommended. I am sure it will not hurt on the 9'gs as well

For those of us that haven't been around since 8G, what is the recommended break-in process that's being carried over?

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hey d nice can we expect reference settings from you for the 9gs this year non elite....