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post #121 of 571
Most companies would try to sell you the speakers anyway. It does not surprise me that they recommended you buy elsewhere.

Try AV123. They have some very good speakers too. The link to the 5.0 setup is at a very good price. The center, of which I own one, usually cost about half of what they are charging for this setup. If you have the room for towers, these would sound very good, and they are all 8 ohm loads.

Anyone know why all links to AV123 is being blocked by AVS forums? Puzzling.
post #122 of 571
Emotiva is a standup company by any measure. They could have told you to try the speakers with your receiver but they see ahead more than just the sale in hand. If you had problems then you would be leaning away from Emotiva for other products and Dann, Lonnie, and the crew there understand that.

The main reason their speakers are 4 ohm is because their amps can and do take advantage of this by having substantial increases in power into 4 ohms. It doesn't work for everyone though, and they seem to be ok with this.

I use an SVS sub and actually had their speakers on my short list before deciding on Emotiva. They are another great company to buy from and I'm sure you'll be pleased with the service if not the sound. Let us know how everything works out and continue to drop by this thread. Your welcome anytime, owner or not.

Tim
post #123 of 571
Animo on the lounge got his 6.3 today (he bought it to use as a center with his custom speakers). He will be doing a review with his buddy tonight and posting his impressions and some pictures.
post #124 of 571
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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

Most companies would try to sell you the speakers anyway. It does not surprise me that they recommended you buy elsewhere.

Try AV123. They have some very good speakers too. The link to the 5.0 setup is at a very good price. The center, of which I own one, usually cost about half of what they are charging for this setup. If you have the room for towers, these would sound very good, and they are all 8 ohm loads.

Anyone know why all links to AV123 is being blocked by AVS forums? Puzzling.

Yes, Emotiva is a standup company and I will definitely be giving them my business and recommending them in the future. I picked up a trio of SVS SCS-01's since this is for about 95% home theater usage (I have RBH surrounds and an eD sub). So far, SVS has been top notch to work with as well.

There have been many issues with av123 recently with regards to defects, delays, and their CEO selling B-stock items on the av123 forums and then not shipping the items for months (if at all).

I decided not to give them a chance (and they definitely have some nice speakers).
post #125 of 571
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Originally Posted by amidcars View Post

Animo on the lounge got his 6.3 today (he bought it to use as a center with his custom speakers). He will be doing a review with his buddy tonight and posting his impressions and some pictures.

I think you are about 2 months behind. Check the date of his first review post about the 6.3.
post #126 of 571
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Anyone know why all links to AV123 is being blocked by AVS forums? Puzzling.

Because there was a big pissing match over that forum being a competitor to this forum and when that forum went down lots of threads talked about it, AVS didnt like it so they remove any links to it and banned people. AVS has rules in place saying we should not post competitor links or something like that


Are you guys aware that Emotiva and AV123 use to have a very strong relationship?
post #127 of 571
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Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post

Sadly, I was up so late the other night and looking at so many other speakers that I missed the fact that the ERM-1's were rated 4ohm. I have an Onkyo 605 that is rated for 6-8 ohm speakers. I gave Emotiva a call and they stated that the ERM-1's were very stable at a continuous 4ohms, but that they felt I should stick with my receivers recommendations per the owners manual.

So I cancelled the order. Emotiva was great to work with and I will definitely be giving them some business down the road. I think the Onkyo 605 would have been okay driving these speakers (I rarely listen above 65-68 decibels), but I did not want to cause any undue wear and tear, heat problems, or more major issues.

After more research online and auditioning a number of speaker locally, I decided to go with the SVS SCS-01's for front right, left, and center.

I was a little sad to cancel the order on the ERM-1's but am excited for the SVS speakers as well.


I drove the ERM-1s for many months using my Yahama 663 which also says its 6/8 ohm rated. You would not have any problems at your listening levels.
post #128 of 571
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I drove the ERM-1s for many months using my Yahama 663 which also says its 6/8 ohm rated. You would not have any problems at your listening levels.

I probably would have been fine since the ERM-1's do not dip much lower than 4 ohms continuously. But I did not want to have any issues down the road and even the Emotiva tech I spoke to told me I would probably be best to buy 6-8 ohm speakers per Onkyo's recommendations. Trust me, it was a tough call.

But I will be using these speakers exclusively for HT and the SVS SCS01's seem pretty solid as HT speakers.
post #129 of 571
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Originally Posted by penngray View Post



Are you guys aware that Emotiva and AV123 use to have a very strong relationship?


Emotiva is not affiliated with AV123 and has not been for a long time so what is the point of making this comment?

post #130 of 571
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Originally Posted by Clem272 View Post

Emotiva is not affiliated with AV123 and has not been for a long time so what is the point of making this comment?

This is just another example of an inflammatory comment from Penngray..........

I don't see that comment as inflammatory.

Your comment on the other hand.......
post #131 of 571
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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

I don't see that comment as inflammatory.

Your comment on the other hand.......


Well tell me what the point is to bring up such old news as if it was yesterday. They don't do business the same as AV123 and have not been associated with them for some time. He is bringing old school info up as if it is relevant today. So yes I called it inflammatory and I edited my post to keep things on point.
post #132 of 571
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Originally Posted by Clem272 View Post

Well tell me what the point is to bring up such old news as if it was yesterday. They don't do business the same as AV123 and have not been associated with them for some time. He is bringing old school info up as if it is relevant today. So yes I called it inflammatory and I edited my post to keep things on point.

I asked a legitimate question. He answered my question.

It may have been old news to you. To me, it isn't.
post #133 of 571
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Originally Posted by ungo4 View Post

The main reason their speakers are 4 ohm is because their amps can and do take advantage of this by having substantial increases in power into 4 ohms. It doesn't work for everyone though, and they seem to be ok with this.

I could be wrong, but I'd guess that the main reason their speakers are 4 ohm is because they set out with a design given a set of constraints, tradeoffs, etc, and the result was a 4 ohm speaker. I doubt Emo said "Hey, our amps are decent into 4 ohms, but so are the external amps made by the competition, so lets sell 4 ohm speakers."

-T
post #134 of 571
I posted my review of the Emo 6.2's over at the Emotiva Lounge (check out the speaker review section, with the heading about a LONG, review). I'm very happy. They replaced a pair of Swans D2.1SE's that I was using for the front left and right because I got tired of waiting for the matching center and surrounds from Swan. If you would like to see the review, here is the link:

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/i...ay&thread=4859

And regarding the most recent posts above, I would like to add my two cents that Emotiva is a first rate operation!
post #135 of 571
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Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post

I could be wrong, but I'd guess that the main reason their speakers are 4 ohm is because they set out with a design given a set of constraints, tradeoffs, etc, and the result was a 4 ohm speaker. I doubt Emo said "Hey, our amps are decent into 4 ohms, but so are the external amps made by the competition, so lets sell 4 ohm speakers."

-T

Emotiva amps have been around alot longer than their speakers. It is a well known fact that they double their power into 4 ohms, are very stable, and sound great doing it. Designing speakers to take advantage of this is a no-brainer.

For the most part, constraints and tradeoffs don't include the ohm load of a speaker because speakers are almost always available in 4 ohm, 8 ohm, single and dual voice coil configurations from a manufacturer. This is what allows a customer/manufacturer such as Emotiva or a DIY'er to build speakers to their specifications using the parts they want. Choices from the supplier allows them this flexibility.

I could be completely wrong as I have been plenty of times in the past but this makes more sense to me. If I am, then my apologies T.
post #136 of 571
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Originally Posted by Clem272 View Post

Well tell me what the point is to bring up such old news as if it was yesterday. They don't do business the same as AV123 and have not been associated with them for some time. He is bringing old school info up as if it is relevant today. So yes I called it inflammatory and I edited my post to keep things on point.

Let me tell you something that happened to me regarding AV123. I was looking at their B-stock speakers when i saw the Onix Xl-s speaker. There was only one . I called them and spoke to Kyle. We talked a bit and i told him that i really wanted another one beacause i wanted to use them for my rear surrounds . He said that he would check the warehouse to see if he had another enclosure and if he did that he would biuld one and sell me the pair for $100.00. Boy was i in luck!! He built another and shipped them to me. i told him that i really needed them by the weekend. which meant he had to biuld it and get it shipped the next day for me to receive them in time. I got them on Friday and I am amazed at how they sound . I still have them on top of my Monitor Audio Rs6's . .I need to get them back to my rears !
Also spoke to them about the problems with their amps in their subs.
They hired a special Engineer to figure out what was going on. and he did.
It was their supplier who tried to save some money with a different company to make the board . They found out the transistors in the chips were failing. they were manu. too thin and would break down. He has since cleared up the problem (has forgiven the suplier) and will soon be sending everyone affected new amps .
Now don't beat me up if i do not have the details exactly right RE : sub amps but i believe i do.
My point is that AV123 is also a standup company who will make it right and Kyle is Outstanding!!
post #137 of 571
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Originally Posted by floridapoolboy View Post

Oh yeah, I'll be doing a review! I've had the Rocket 850s and Bigfoot in my HT, and I've also had a full Swan setup: 5.1 towers, C3 center, and R3 dipole surrounds. I'll be doing some serious listening, and I'll report back on what I find out.

Never saw a follow up review from you regarding your 8.3/6.3 combo, floridapoolboy.
Any comments if you are still reading this thread?
post #138 of 571
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Originally Posted by Maestro J View Post

Never saw a follow up review from you regarding your 8.3/6.3 combo, floridapoolboy.
Any comments if you are still reading this thread?

He posted his review on the Emo Lounge. You can read it here.

There are several other reviews of the 8.3s, including mine. Seems these 8.3s are a great hit. I certainly do like them.
post #139 of 571
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Originally Posted by ungo4 View Post

Emotiva amps... It is a well known fact that they double their power into 4 ohms

Actually, most of them don't. IIRC, only the XPA-1 and XPA-2 will double their output into 4 ohms. Most of the others are a 50-75% increase. IME, only the most expensive and powerful amps do manage to double their power.

But that doesn't change the fact that they are fine amps and do make my 4 ohm speakers sing quite nicely.
post #140 of 571
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Originally Posted by TPnBobcats View Post

Actually, most of them don't. IIRC, only the XPA-1 and XPA-2 will double their output into 4 ohms. Most of the others are a 50-75% increase. IME, only the most expensive and powerful amps do manage to double their power.

But that doesn't change the fact that they are fine amps and do make my 4 ohm speakers sing quite nicely.

+1
You do recall correctly. My UPA-7 does crank out 280wpc in 2 channel, but "only" 185 watts all channels driven. I don't think I'll need more than that.
post #141 of 571
A new review is up at www.Hometheaterhifi.com. Damn, wish I knew how to post a better link!
post #142 of 571
Florida try this... type [ url = copy and paste url here] clickable link of your choice [ / url ] just make sure the [ url = ] and [ / url ] are correct and have no spaces then you should be good to go.
Hope that helps.
Something like this,, emo ert 83 test
post #143 of 571
Much better link, thanks!
post #144 of 571
Great review. It looks like I'm going to get the same exact set that the reviewer had.
But the sad part is that it looks like I missed out on an extra 10% off sale about a month ago.
post #145 of 571
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Originally Posted by Maestro J View Post

Great review. It looks like I'm going to get the same exact set that the reviewer had.
But the sad part is that it looks like I missed out on an extra 10% off sale about a month ago.

Have patience, the life blood of any ID company is "the sale".

Actually the current sale is $100 off and free shipping, which is pretty close to the same as the 25% off with $25 shipping, which came to $1463.20. About 35$ difference.
post #146 of 571
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Originally Posted by Maestro J View Post

Great review. It looks like I'm going to get the same exact set that the reviewer had.
But the sad part is that it looks like I missed out on an extra 10% off sale about a month ago.

The site home page still says 10% off speaker packages with free shipping. Am I looking at a cached page? I keep refreshing the page and that offer still keeps showing.
post #147 of 571
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Originally Posted by monkuboy View Post

The site home page still says 10% off speaker packages with free shipping. Am I looking at a cached page? I keep refreshing the page and that offer still keeps showing.

Its the same as I'm seeing. I think Maestro J was looking at a pair of ERTs, not a package.
post #148 of 571
No, I see the 10% off speaker packages which is what I'm after. I was under the impression that they were having a spring sale where they offered 10% add'l off but it ended some time ago? Am I wrong?
post #149 of 571
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Originally Posted by Maestro J View Post

No, I see the 10% off speaker packages which is what I'm after. I was under the impression that they were having a spring sale where they offered 10% add'l off but it ended some time ago? Am I wrong?

No, in the spring sale everything was 10% off, not just the speakers. But there was not an additional 10%.
post #150 of 571
Okay, thanks for clarifying.
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