First, let me say thanks to AVS Forum members bradavon, stpat, and the entire group of BH200 owners who've helped me not only with my machine but also who inspired me to start this thread. A very special thanks to bradavon for his tireless work collecting and organizing information; I've based this thread on his model!
PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD & INFORMATION CONTAINED WITHIN:
*collect confirmed bugs and other irregularities in the LG BH200
*support other users with help for and/or confirmation of bugs
*provide LG employees who might be reading a chance to comment and/or make note of confirmed bugs for future firmware updates
*please note, this is for non-disk specific issues; to report a problem disk please use this thread.
*for questions regarding the BH200's capabilities or what issues are related to what firmware, please use this thread.
*whenever possible, before adding a bug to the "official" list, I will try to have it confirmed by at least two users, and when applicable with at least two different A/V setups (i.e. receivers, TV's, etc.)
*when posting a possible bug, please provide as much information as possible (i.e. firmware version, driver version, A/V setup, etc.)
Confirmed by multiple users (many people, different locations, with a wide variety of A/V equipment):
1. When sending uncompressed PCM 5.1 audio from a Blu-ray disk to a receiver via HDMI, audio channels are incorrectly reported as 7.1; no sound is output via "extra 2" rear speakers. For more details, click on this thread.
2. When bitstreaming Dolby Digital Plus to a receiver via HDMI, there is sometimes a "motorboat" or "helicopter" sound. This has been confirmed by users with Onkyo, Pioneer, and Marantz receivers. While the vast majority of reports about this problem are related to the HD DVD format (probably because DD+ is much more common on HD DVD), it has been confirmed by at least one person on Blu-ray. The bug is not always repeatable at the same play time or even on the same disk in many instances. Click here for a thread dedicated to this issue.
3. When viewing upscaled 4:3 SD DVD's via HDMI, images are incorrectly stretched into the 16:9 aspect ratio instead of being displayed in their native 4:3. Pending further research, some users suggest this can be defeated if your display allows you to select pillar box (4:3) when viewing content via the HDMI connection. Others have suggested that if 480i/p output is selected on the BH200, then the stretching does not occur. But as soon as any upscaling happens the incorrect 16:9 aspect ratio also happens. For more details and links to other threads, click here.
4. There continue to be audio and video dropouts. While this got better with the March "beta" firmware and has gotten even better with the April firmware, it still happens too often. Most users report more video drops than audio. The drops are most often not repeatable at the same play time or even on the same disk. Ironically (perhaps), some of the most frequent video drops occur on the BH200's menu and home screens.
4(a). The issues with audio and video dropouts seem to be related to the fact that the BH200 is very "particular" with its HDMI handshake. Furthermore, while these issues still occur with HDMI 1.3 devices, they seem to be much more common and severe with older versions (1.1, 1.2) of HDMI. See examples here, here, and here, as well as in the Mini-FAQ. UPDATE: As of 1/3/2010, the HDMI handshake issues still seem to be causing audio and/or video drops with the latest firmware and newest Blu-ray releases. See posting here for more details.
Confirmed by limited users (fewer people, regional/localized, specific make or model of A/V equipment):
1. When the BH200 is connected to a Denon 4306 receiver via HDMI there's only stereo PCM audio sent and/or received instead of Multi-Channel. Testing shows that the 4306 will receive Multi-Channel PCM audio via HDMI from other devices including the PS3 and Toshiba HD-E1. Additionally, the newer Denon 4308 has no problems when paired with the BH200. So, this would seem to be something specific to only the 4306 and BH200 combination. As of now, this has only been confirmed with the European model of the Denon and the North American version of the LG. UPDATE: according to this post it may be an issue with all Denon receivers from that model year and has been confirmed with the 2807.
2. If the BH200 is connected directly to a Mitsubishi WS 55315 and/or 65315 via HDMI/DVI, it turns the television off when booting up. If the HDMI is run through a receiver first, or the television is switched to a different input while the BH200 is booting up, this does not occur. The television is not capable of displaying 720p (only 480i, 480p, and 1080i). It is therefore suspected that the BH200's forced resolution setting is not working correctly and that when booting up it still sends a 720 "test signal" as though it was set to auto. This causes the television to turn off as a protective measure.
3. Hybrid Super Audio CDs are not read properly by European models of the BH200. The Hybrid SACD is recognized as a data CD and therefore does not play correctly. UPDATE: This has now been confirmed in the North American model as well (posted here). More details here.
4. If CEA extensions to the display EDID data are not present (i.e. DVI-D with HDCP displays), the BH200 will not accept user selected output of 1080p; instead it reverts to 1080i. See this post for more details.
LG BH200: bug tracking thread
for non-disk specific issues
PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD & INFORMATION CONTAINED WITHIN:
*collect confirmed bugs and other irregularities in the LG BH200
*support other users with help for and/or confirmation of bugs
*provide LG employees who might be reading a chance to comment and/or make note of confirmed bugs for future firmware updates
*please note, this is for non-disk specific issues; to report a problem disk please use this thread.
*for questions regarding the BH200's capabilities or what issues are related to what firmware, please use this thread.
*whenever possible, before adding a bug to the "official" list, I will try to have it confirmed by at least two users, and when applicable with at least two different A/V setups (i.e. receivers, TV's, etc.)
*when posting a possible bug, please provide as much information as possible (i.e. firmware version, driver version, A/V setup, etc.)
REPORTED BUGS
Confirmed by multiple users (many people, different locations, with a wide variety of A/V equipment):
1. When sending uncompressed PCM 5.1 audio from a Blu-ray disk to a receiver via HDMI, audio channels are incorrectly reported as 7.1; no sound is output via "extra 2" rear speakers. For more details, click on this thread.
2. When bitstreaming Dolby Digital Plus to a receiver via HDMI, there is sometimes a "motorboat" or "helicopter" sound. This has been confirmed by users with Onkyo, Pioneer, and Marantz receivers. While the vast majority of reports about this problem are related to the HD DVD format (probably because DD+ is much more common on HD DVD), it has been confirmed by at least one person on Blu-ray. The bug is not always repeatable at the same play time or even on the same disk in many instances. Click here for a thread dedicated to this issue.
3. When viewing upscaled 4:3 SD DVD's via HDMI, images are incorrectly stretched into the 16:9 aspect ratio instead of being displayed in their native 4:3. Pending further research, some users suggest this can be defeated if your display allows you to select pillar box (4:3) when viewing content via the HDMI connection. Others have suggested that if 480i/p output is selected on the BH200, then the stretching does not occur. But as soon as any upscaling happens the incorrect 16:9 aspect ratio also happens. For more details and links to other threads, click here.
4. There continue to be audio and video dropouts. While this got better with the March "beta" firmware and has gotten even better with the April firmware, it still happens too often. Most users report more video drops than audio. The drops are most often not repeatable at the same play time or even on the same disk. Ironically (perhaps), some of the most frequent video drops occur on the BH200's menu and home screens.
4(a). The issues with audio and video dropouts seem to be related to the fact that the BH200 is very "particular" with its HDMI handshake. Furthermore, while these issues still occur with HDMI 1.3 devices, they seem to be much more common and severe with older versions (1.1, 1.2) of HDMI. See examples here, here, and here, as well as in the Mini-FAQ. UPDATE: As of 1/3/2010, the HDMI handshake issues still seem to be causing audio and/or video drops with the latest firmware and newest Blu-ray releases. See posting here for more details.
Confirmed by limited users (fewer people, regional/localized, specific make or model of A/V equipment):
1. When the BH200 is connected to a Denon 4306 receiver via HDMI there's only stereo PCM audio sent and/or received instead of Multi-Channel. Testing shows that the 4306 will receive Multi-Channel PCM audio via HDMI from other devices including the PS3 and Toshiba HD-E1. Additionally, the newer Denon 4308 has no problems when paired with the BH200. So, this would seem to be something specific to only the 4306 and BH200 combination. As of now, this has only been confirmed with the European model of the Denon and the North American version of the LG. UPDATE: according to this post it may be an issue with all Denon receivers from that model year and has been confirmed with the 2807.
2. If the BH200 is connected directly to a Mitsubishi WS 55315 and/or 65315 via HDMI/DVI, it turns the television off when booting up. If the HDMI is run through a receiver first, or the television is switched to a different input while the BH200 is booting up, this does not occur. The television is not capable of displaying 720p (only 480i, 480p, and 1080i). It is therefore suspected that the BH200's forced resolution setting is not working correctly and that when booting up it still sends a 720 "test signal" as though it was set to auto. This causes the television to turn off as a protective measure.
3. Hybrid Super Audio CDs are not read properly by European models of the BH200. The Hybrid SACD is recognized as a data CD and therefore does not play correctly. UPDATE: This has now been confirmed in the North American model as well (posted here). More details here.
4. If CEA extensions to the display EDID data are not present (i.e. DVI-D with HDCP displays), the BH200 will not accept user selected output of 1080p; instead it reverts to 1080i. See this post for more details.
