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post #5101 of 5375
steve.. what program did you use to burn the firmware to a cd? I used windows player to burn the firmware. And when I checked the firmware's properties it says its in wave sound format. Now how do I convert it to a .cda on a disk?

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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

one question I'd ask is -

did you burn it as a wav data file or as a music disc? It must be burned as an audio music disc & the wav file converts to a .cda audio "track". If the file on your disc is .wav, then it's a data disc & won't work.
post #5102 of 5375
I used Nero 10 and burned it as an Audio CD at 4x speed on a Pioneer DVD witer DVR216D.
I did try and burn it at 52x as an Audio CD on my Bluray writer but it wasn't recognised by the LX90
post #5103 of 5375
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

steve.. what program did you use to burn the firmware to a cd? I used windows player to burn the firmware. And when I checked the firmware's properties it says its in wave sound format. Now how do I convert it to a .cda on a disk?

When you choose to make a Audio CD in the menu, the burning software should convert the file to a *.cda automatic!

I'm also pretty sure you can use a CD-RW.
post #5104 of 5375
I have successfully updated one of my Susano receivers with all 5 firmware binaries. My panel display now looks like South Park's, except my ITEM is one release level higher (1.028)? I have a second Susano I'll update tomorrow night, and then I'll give Bridge Over the River Kwai a try to see if it plays without the bombs (never got around to watching it last night.)

A big thank you again to Hkan This saved me a load of time disconnecting and dragging both my receivers into some unknown service center.

- Sean
post #5105 of 5375
Found one discrepincy in my x-over cable, pins 7 and 8 are not crossed over as per the pioneer diagram. In fact none of my cables have the RTS/CTS pins crossed over.
I better get the soldering iron out
post #5106 of 5375
thanks Steve. And Alicatt I downloaded Nero 11 trial version to do the burn and was sucessful..thanks. And thanks to you Hkan for the fw the update to my avr is gtg. Will be donating to your paypal this week. You deserve it bro. Now after couple of times before of not gettin it right. I had to do a factory reset I have to redo all my settings and recalibrating my speakers again. Oh well I like playing with it anyway. Oh btw, I did use a cheap sony dvd player that I bought from BB to do the update. I guess i'll return it now.
post #5107 of 5375
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

steve.. what program did you use to burn the firmware to a cd? I used windows player to burn the firmware. And when I checked the firmware's properties it says its in wave sound format. Now how do I convert it to a .cda on a disk?

Glad Nero worked out - you beat me to an answer For the record, I used Toshiba's own burning software that came with the laptop.

I plan on tackling this today. I hope the cross cable I've used for yrs on Pioneer AVR's is the right one
post #5108 of 5375
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Alicatt View Post

Found one discrepincy in my x-over cable, pins 7 and 8 are not crossed over as per the pioneer diagram. In fact none of my cables have the RTS/CTS pins crossed over.
I better get the soldering iron out

maybe lucky that the MCACC software worked for you

I just hope mine is wired correctly because I've only used it to receive not send, bought it specifically for using MCACC software with several Pioneer AVR's.
post #5109 of 5375
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by caseyse View Post

I have successfully updated one of my Susano receivers with all 5 firmware binaries... This saved me a load of time disconnecting and dragging both my receivers into some unknown service center.

Congratulations!!
This is great news. I'm hopeful again...must all come down to how the cable is wired, pin to pin.

In my case, the service center in Atlanta is "known" - that's why I won't take it there
One of the Denon AVP owners in Atlanta posted he is calling Denon to find other centers to send his AVP to; he has to deal with the same shop & isn't impressed with them either.
post #5110 of 5375
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

maybe lucky that the MCACC software worked for you

I just hope mine is wired correctly because I've only used it to receive not send, bought it specifically for using MCACC software with several Pioneer AVR's.

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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

Congratulations!!
This is great news. I'm hopeful again...must all come down to how the cable is wired, pin to pin.

Well, still no luck! made the cable the same as in the drawing in the service manual, tested the connections and they all ring out true now but when I connect to the amp I still cannot get it to update. thried with both 1.08 and 1.10 loaders.
Begining to wonder if a lightning strike took out the RS232 part of the amp, I know that when I was off on holiday lightning took out one of the PCs and wrecked the HDD on it, but the equipment in the cinema was all disconnected before I left. Lightning here can trip the mains supply breaker even when it is not striking close, the breaker is very sensitive. But if it had taken out the RS232 then I would not be able to read the MCACC.
The old Dell laptop is the only PC in the house with a Serial port on it. I connected it (the Dell) up to my ham radio and read and wrote back to the memory on the radio so the serial port is working on it.
post #5111 of 5375
heres some info about diffrent null modem cables: http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/...ull_modem.html
post #5112 of 5375
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Originally Posted by Hkan View Post

heres some info about diffrent null modem cables: http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/...ull_modem.html

Intresting site, thanks for sharing.
Gave me a couple of things to ponder over.
The DSP1 is updated to 3.14 maybe I should leave it at that.

The ones that have managed to do the update did you use a serial port on the computer or go through a USB-Serial adapter? Which OS did you use? cable type?
Thanks for any help.
Alistair.
post #5113 of 5375
First tried to update to DSP 3.014 via a Panasonic BD 35 bluray player with an optical cable and an old Verbatim CD-RW disc: Fail

Tried again with an Esoteric X-03 with same cable and disc: SUCCESS!!

Kudos to Pioneer for the strangest firmware update ever!!

Now, I've got to retrieve my COM-USB cable to try the rest of the update..
post #5114 of 5375
Thread Starter 
Mine is updated! All 5 systems
And I had no problems with the rs232 updates (sorry alicatt )
Each takes about 3 minutes once you hit start.

The cross cable I had is the exact one suggested by Pioneer in the MCACC software manual - Belkin Pro Series Direct F3B207-10 ft. Has the same pin-out that's shown in both the service manual & MCACC software instructions.

If anyone is having problems with the cross cable, the Belkin one does work.

Now I have the pain of re-doing input setup & calibrations. But I'm happy it's finally done. This has been bugging me for well over a year & it took Hkan and the mass interest here to overcome my DIY concerns.

I just hope everything works
post #5115 of 5375
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

Now I have the pain of re-doing input setup & calibrations.

with all your sources, we might not see you for a month...
post #5116 of 5375
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by billtsag View Post

Kudos to Pioneer for the strangest firmware update ever!!

amen to that
fortunately, owners of the new models don't have to go thru this nonsense. they're supposed to be user friendly updateable...finally
post #5117 of 5375
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

with all your sources, we might not see you for a month...

lol
that's true

nice to see you haven't forgotten your old pals in Iceland
post #5118 of 5375
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

Mine is updated! All 5 systems
And I had no problems with the rs232 updates (sorry alicatt )
Each takes about 3 minutes once you hit start.

The cross cable I had is the exact one suggested by Pioneer in the MCACC software manual - Belkin Pro Series Direct F3B207-10 ft. Has the same pin-out that's shown in both the service manual & MCACC software instructions.

If anyone is having problems with the cross cable, the Belkin one does work.

Now I have the pain of re-doing input setup & calibrations. But I'm happy it's finally done. This has been bugging me for well over a year & it took Hkan and the mass interest here to overcome my DIY concerns.

I just hope everything works

You're welcome!

Need anything else just ask
post #5119 of 5375
Quote:
Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

Mine is updated! All 5 systems
And I had no problems with the rs232 updates (sorry alicatt )
Each takes about 3 minutes once you hit start.

The cross cable I had is the exact one suggested by Pioneer in the MCACC software manual - Belkin Pro Series Direct F3B207-10 ft. Has the same pin-out that's shown in both the service manual & MCACC software instructions.

If anyone is having problems with the cross cable, the Belkin one does work.

Now I have the pain of re-doing input setup & calibrations. But I'm happy it's finally done. This has been bugging me for well over a year & it took Hkan and the mass interest here to overcome my DIY concerns.

I just hope everything works



So where I can find the 5 files and the UFU.exe program ?

Thanks
post #5120 of 5375
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

lol
that's true

nice to see you haven't forgotten your old pals in Iceland

oh, i lurk... i miss my buddies... this is the last of the pioneer threads that has rational people in it...
post #5121 of 5375
There is good news aplenty here! Alas, I'm strapped for time right now...maybe this coming weekend...

Now we know how to do it, we just need Pioneer to write THE firmware update...
post #5122 of 5375
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ssak View Post

So where I can find the 5 files and the UFU.exe program ?

Thanks

PM sent
post #5123 of 5375
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Originally Posted by caseyse View Post

My panel display now looks like South Park's, except my ITEM is one release level higher (1.028)?

Does anybody know what ITEM does? Was your version already 1.028 before the updates?

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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

Mine is updated! All 5 systems

So now what we are going to do - sell our Susanos?
post #5124 of 5375
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Originally Posted by South Park View Post

Does anybody know what ITEM does? Was your version already 1.028 before the updates?



So now what we are going to do - sell our Susanos?

ΙΤΕΜ controls iPod, XM, Sirius, Tuner and DLNA USB functions.
Mine was v. 1.028 from factory.
post #5125 of 5375
Thread Starter 
ITEM from factory on mine was 1.027 & still is 1.027. The updates I got last year didn't include one for ITEM. Didn't know what ITEM was for, so thanks!

Sell our Susano's? not yet for me.
post #5126 of 5375
Thank you billtsag for the info!
post #5127 of 5375
Thread Starter 
The rs-232 updates fixed something I'd been annoyed with since I first got the Susano.

This may not mean much to most of you but if you wanted to use MC analogs with no processing & surround B speakers, the original FW wouldn't let you. The old vsx-59txi could do that but not the Susano.

I'm pleased to say that you can now use your surround B's in Pure Direct on the multichannel inputs

I use them for a legacy quad receiver and liked to use the B's since it placed the surround sound further back in the room, like a traditional quad setup used to be. Up until now, I had to disconnect the side surrounds and use A+B - a real kludge & I never understood why Pioneer implemented it with that limitation. Now, I just switch to B and it works just like the 59txi did.

A bonus
post #5128 of 5375
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

PM sent

I want to know too.. thanks
post #5129 of 5375
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

I want to know too.. thanks

It's closer then you think

A big thank you to those that did contribute to the site!
post #5130 of 5375
Fantastic news. Bridge Over the River Kwai played without any snap, crackle or pops! Not a single abnormality in sound. This movie previously nearly trashed my speakers. This DSP upgrade is a must have for all. Thanks again Hkan!
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