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post #5311 of 5330
1/13/13 at 10:04am
Hello
a questions to Susano.

HDMI Out 1 Ctrl no picture. * Ctrl * is disabled in the device.
Hdmi out 2 without problems.
An idea? Already read here that a few users had the problem.
Unfortunately, the solution was never written.

Thanks for the help.
Edited by Kirk02 - 1/13/13 at 10:20pm
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post #5312 of 5330
1/14/13 at 6:54am
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don't know...not enough information.

what kind of source? what resolution? is it deep color compatible? do you have deep color (also called High Speed) enabled in the TV & the source for HDMI 1? did you try turning OFF HDMI Control on 1?

I don't use HDMI Control, period. for exactly the same kind of reasons posted in numerous threads for many receivers, mfg's, & TV's. sometimes it works well, sometimes the way it's implemented in the receiver is not the same way it's implemented in the display, quirky behavior, random shutdowns, sometimes it forces the receiver to default to a specific input when the receiver or TV is shut off - mostly SAT/CABLE or TV input. mostly it seems to me to be more trouble than it's worth so I don't use it smile.gif

try turning it off for both outputs.

and since the Susano cannot output both HDMI outs at the same time, do you switch between the 2 in the setup menu? maybe your receiver is just set for HDMI 2 being active and no video will output on 1 until you change it so that HDMI 1 is active. I'm assuming nothing in this reply so if you're well past basics, please don't take offense for me asking smile.gif
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post #5313 of 5330
1/14/13 at 8:43am
Thanks for the answer.
Out1 HDMI Ctrl (Control in Susano = Off) Sony TV or PC monitor both Full HD 24P
HDMI IN 1 Sony BDP Player Full HD 24P
No matter what I do, the TV or monitor remains dark.
Turn it in Susano (Ctrl = on) I can see how the TV turns on the sources. Unfortunately remains without image. Throughout the HDMI Out 2 without any problems. The only one HDMI out same time I know it.
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post #5314 of 5330
1/14/13 at 8:52am
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did you try re-seating the HDMI 1 cable or just replacing it? last year while rearranging gear, I lost video and when I did some troubleshooting I found the cable needed replaced. I must have rolled the cabinet over it when moving things around. replaced the cable and no problems since.

worth a try if you haven't already. if you did and that didn't solve the problem, then post back & I'll try to think of other possibilities.
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post #5315 of 5330
1/14/13 at 9:28am
another cable with another device (PC monitor), unfortunately, no picture. frown.gif
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post #5316 of 5330
1/17/13 at 1:56pm
All, after much reading and going over things twice I am having an issue with my SC-09. I am using an Oppo BDP-103 for a blue ray player. I have a 3D projector and I am using the Oppo split HDMI out to send video direct to the projector and audio to my SC-09 on the other output. I am getting lip sync issues due to the SC-09 inserting a delay.
Is there a way to tell the SC-09 that it is only receiving audio and no video over HDMI? I have looked through the manual and nothing pops out at me.

Cheers
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post #5317 of 5330
1/17/13 at 3:02pm
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have you tried the Sound Delay settings in Audio Parameters. It's been quite a while ago but early on in HD formats, I had to use it couple times, nothing in last few years though.

HDMI audio only...nothing jumps out at me. there's the HDMI Amp/Through setting but that would disable audio altogether if you changed it to Through.

How about the player side? if you're using bitstream, have you tried setting the HDMI output to PCM?
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post #5318 of 5330
1/17/13 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by Kirk02 View Post

another cable with another device (PC monitor), unfortunately, no picture. frown.gif

haven't caught up with your post yet smile.gif

did you try turning the Video Converter off? it may be set to an incompatible resolution but it should be set to Auto unless you had changed it. I'd try turning it anyway to see what happens, maybe rule out the possibility that it's gone wonky. also, make sure Deep Color in off in your source, if it's a Bluray player just to eliminate that possibility. I'm kind of grasping at things...

HDMI setting of Amp/Through should be Amp but that would effect audio not video. make sure it's set to Amp anyway.

it just may be that the 1) you have a bent pin in the connector or 2) HDMI transmitter circuitry for HDMI 1 out developed a problem so no output. you may need to have to have it looked at by service shop or at least have them go thru the service menu to test the diagnostics.

if something else occurs to me, I'll let you know but it's not obvious, sorry frown.gif
Edited by ss9001 - 1/17/13 at 3:18pm
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post #5319 of 5330
3/10/13 at 12:06am
Is anyone using the AV-iCONTROL-A android apk? (not the original pioneer apk) Susano is on the list of the apk.
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post #5320 of 5330
3/10/13 at 12:45pm
I have recently developed an issue with my SC-09TX. I have used an Apple TV as a source for music since the day I purchased the Pioneer several years. Putting the 09TX in any surround mode while feeding it a 2-channel HDMI signal from the Apple TV has always resulted in a simulated surround with subwoofer. Recently, I noticed the subwoofer is not outputting audio with the 2-channel audio fed by the Apple TV. This has not been an issue in the past. It seems that now, the subwoofer will only output audio if it is being fed a 5.1 or 7.1 signal. This really bothers me that it has all of the sudden happened. Also, the unit has stopped outputting white noise on the right channel when doing speaker setup using the internal test tones. It is important to note that I use external amplifiers, however, I have set the speakers up several times without issue. It is almost as if these two items are related and were discovered at the same time. I have performed the factory reset on the SC-09TX and still both issues remain. I am wondering if the recent software update for the DTS issues has caused these problems. Any help would be greatly appreciated, however, I am assuming no one else is experiencing these issues...

Thanks in advance!
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post #5321 of 5330
4/14/13 at 1:28pm
Ok.. How do I calibrate for front align or all chnl adj. How do I select this in the menu?
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post #5322 of 5330
4/14/13 at 2:58pm
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did you read the manual? it's in there, page 45 in ch 7.

have you owned the SC-09 very long?

basically, you select Custom MCACC in the MCACC menu and select ALL to calibrate all 3 modes. not hard.

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

post again if you are still stuck after reading the chapter on MCACC.
Edited by ss9001 - 4/14/13 at 3:03pm
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post #5323 of 5330
4/14/13 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

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did you read the manual? it's in there, page 45 in ch 7.

have you owned the SC-09 very long?

basically, you select Custom MCACC in the MCACC menu and select ALL to calibrate all 3 modes. not hard.

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

post again if you are still stuck after reading the chapter on MCACC.

Ok thanks.. I'll try it again. Ever since I got it brand new back in '09 I only did calibration for Symmetry which I guess is default. I recently did some audition to my surrounds and need to recalibrate. So wanted to experiment more with the receiver... Yea I know.. 4 yrs later now getting the chance to play around with this beast..lol..
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post #5324 of 5330
4/14/13 at 5:02pm
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4 years - I agree about time to experiment with it wink.gif

btw - you select the preset you want from one of the remote buttons, IIRC, called MCACC Preset or you can select Audio Parameters and the presets are at the top of the list of things you can change. so it's easy to select one once you have it setup in the calibration.
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post #5325 of 5330
4/15/13 at 2:20am
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4 years - I agree about time to experiment with it wink.gif

btw - you select the preset you want from one of the remote buttons, IIRC, called MCACC Preset or you can select Audio Parameters and the presets are at the top of the list of things you can change. so it's easy to select one once you have it setup in the calibration.

Wow!..thanks.. That was easy! lol! Feels like I have a brand new toy again. I think I like how front align sounds. Sounds a little more full up front. I'm so glad pulled the trigger on this behemoth back then. I think it was going through the last production. Got it for $5100 brand new from my local authorized dealer. No one makes high end receivers anymore. And to bad Pioneer did away with the ICE amps. I think the only thing I don't like about this receiver is the ability to set each of the speakers with different X overs. And eq for the subs. I'm looking into getting a Velodyne SMS-1 as soon as my new dual subs arrive. Any thoughts about this eq sub with the SC-09TX?
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post #5326 of 5330
4/15/13 at 2:31am
Btw, I went back manually after calibration and set the channel level for each saved MCACC preset. Using a SPL meter set at 75db, c weighting, and slow response.
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post #5327 of 5330
4/15/13 at 2:36am
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4 years - I agree about time to experiment with it wink.gif

btw - you select the preset you want from one of the remote buttons, IIRC, called MCACC Preset or you can select Audio Parameters and the presets are at the top of the list of things you can change. so it's easy to select one once you have it setup in the calibration.


Well maybe not 4 yrs ago till I got to play with it then. The last time was when we had that big firmware update over a year ago. Cause of the DTS bomb. Remember that?
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post #5328 of 5330
4/15/13 at 4:44am
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sure do remember 'da bomb smile.gif

and I highly recommend the Velodyne SMS-1. I have a DD-18 sub with the same EQ system built-in. used it for years and it does a great job. about 2 yrs ago, though, I bought a used SVS AS-EQ1 from member AustinJerry to try out Audyssey sub EQ and have the Velodyne's EQ bypassed. both systems will do a great job but SVS discontinued theirs so you'd have to find one used, like I did. sometime in 2014 I *may* not need the SVS anymore, but that won't help you now wink.gif get the SMS-1 and you'll have a very good add-on to your setup. there's no doubt it will improve overall bass response. there's a learning curve but you'll have no problems once you see the settings & display plus Velodyne has an excellent manual, directions & tips.

I also wish there were new real flagships but that market has gone away, probably not to return. I still have the SC-09 even though I also bought the new SC-68 and have no plans to sell the 09.
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post #5329 of 5330
4/29/13 at 12:00am
I just ordered 2 SC Reference subs. And I had a question... My current subs in my system now are 2 SCII. Smaller then the Reference. But do deliver some great bass IMO. But doesn't go as deep. Anyway I was thinking of still using these subs with the Reference. Can I use a Y for each of the LFE out of the receiver? Like one Y for the left LFE to one SCII and the other to the SC Reference. Then same config for the right LFE? Btw, I cross over at 80.
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post #5330 of 5330
4/29/13 at 2:48am
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sure, see no reason why not. just keep in mind that the receiver will "read" each pair as one sub for calibration so that might influence where you position them. maybe you could look at the options this way -

2 Reference's in front Y-d together & the 2 SCII's in the rear Y-d together. that's a sub in each corner, one of the optimal configurations.
or along each wall
or 1st Ref & 1st SCII in front & 2nd pair in back
or lined up along front wall, big ones on outside, small ones on inside, Ref, II (1 pair), II, Ref (1 pair)

I don't know which one is going to be the best, but if you could pull off 4 corners, that would be really cool biggrin.gif

I'm envious, I have 2 subs (Velo DD18 & SCI) and wish I could move them around a bit, but the room setup won't allow me much choice except front corners.
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