Official Pioneer SC-09TX/SC-LX90 Owner's Thread - Page 4

This is exactly how I do it. I have a CLD-97 & a 59DVi. Rosewood too (scary). The only unsightly part is the duct tape covering the full IR window on the front.

Note the new MRFs use "normal" size IR connectors. I have a 200 & a 300 & the newer models are definitely (I'm told) better for interference.

I think there is a way to "override" the HDMI conversion settings. I think passing out /24p on 1080i material would be a mistake, but that's me. Introducing film-like stutter for non 24 original material (even if it started that way) wouldn't be my way, but I agree the unit should support it the most user definable way, but my understanding is it will only pass and not convert from/to 24

On the microphone it seems very similar to the 49TXi & 59TXi microphones, but Steve would likely have one to compare directly (I'll try to track the one down in the family room 49).

That is excellent news. The secret must be using Title Case for all correspondence

I agree with the sound, even on night setting, Golden Compass Blu-ray blew me away. I am only getting PCM so I need to see how to get bit streaming back.

Has anyone had an opportunity to form an opinion as to how well the SC-09 does with 2 channel playback?

While I'm not expecting anything on the level of a dedicated mega-buck preamp, I am hoping there's an AVR out there that is able to provide reasonable SQ along with good imaging and a decent soundstage. I've had thoughts of adding a dedicated pre-amp and amp for critical 2-channel listening, but I may be able to put that off if I can find an AVR for my HT that does a decent job of 2 ch playback.

BTW, SS9001I noticed a piece of Audio Research gear in your rack, but couldn't quite make out what it is. It's been years ago, but I had an SP-3 and then an SP-9 and loved them both.

Thanks for taking the time to write up your impressions. It sounds like the 09 might do just fine for some ol' fashioned stereo listening. After you've gained some more familiarity with it, I'd be interested to hear more of what you think of the unit.

Afterall, I would suspect that a man with a SP-16 sitting in his equipment rack should know a little bit about what a good 2ch system can sound like!

The SC-09 manual says on page 108 that the video upscaling only works for Analog sources.

That seems like a major issue if SD HDMI sources are passed without the up conversion.

All my sources except for my Wii are HDMI now. I was hoping for upconversion on my SD Directv and DVD's...

I wonder if that is something they plan on implementing in the future or if I will just have to buy Denon.

how are you connected here- ie. analog OUT's, or coax, HDMI?

I will be very curious to hear impressions with 2-channel CD playback using the new (up-coming) BDP-05FD player, connected via-HDMI. The new PQLS technology is supposed to sound exceptionally nice.

cool, thanks!

I was under the impression that to take full advantage of the new PQLS technology you would need the new BDP-05FD connected to the SC-09TX (via-HDMI)? Or is it that the player needs a digital interface (HDMI or iLink)?

I would not buy on promises on upgrades, regardless, although Pio has a much better customer service/attitude than many companies, e.g., my 3 generations old Blu-ray is still receiving updates.

I would question why HDMI for all regardless. Most all sat boxes, Tivos, DVRs will have identical sound on optical outs and identical or better picture output on component. I understand the logic of 1 cable vs 2 (or 4 if count each connector), but there is (particularly with cable boxes) many HDMI issues (flashing menus, drop outs, etc.). On these sources it just doesn't make sense to use HDMI (or at least you can compare quality).

I am looking at the on-line owners manual, so the page numbers may be different.

It is located here:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/St...ctions1213.pdf

In the table it says: "RESOLUTIONa This setting is valid for HDMI and component outputs. Specifies the output resolution of the video signal (when analog video input signals are output at the HDMI OUT connector and/or component video out terminal, select this according to the resolution of your monitor and the images you wish to watch). When AUTO is selected, the resolution is automatically selected depending on the capability of the display connected to this receiver."

Also on page 157 it says: "Also, the built-in digital video converter of this receiver makes both de-interlacing and up-scaling possible, and analog video signals being input are converted and output as digital video signals at the HDMI terminal."

This is not completely clear to me either, and I do not have a unit to test. But, given the comments made on this thread earlier, It sure seems like the video upconversion only applies to Analog sources...

Everything else about the SC-09 is perfect for my application, so I hope that someone who has one can verify that HDMI sources do get upconverted...

Yeah, I learned my lesson on my "future proof" Acurus pre/pro. I have had it for ten years and I am still waiting for my first update.

So, no, if the SC-09 does not upconvert HDMI input video signals, I would not purchase one until Pioneer fixes it...

Besides, we are still not clear on the HDMI functionallity and no such future upgrade promises have been made by anyone.

Seems like it would be an easy fix or upgrade with a firmware fix. Pioneer needs to get on the ball.

This is insane. Having the award-winning Marvell Qdeo VP built-in and not being able to use it? Pioneer's wearing quite the pair of Bad Idea Jeans.

Is the Denon that much better in this regard? While browsing the Denon manual I found some statements that would indicate "not much".

Has anyone tested this Elite with turntable?
I have a Pioneer PL-L1000A... tangential turntable, cleaned my Bob James Three album. I could not get the sound to come out loud. I placed my ears very close to the album playing, I was able to hear some sound.
I had also gone to adjust the Phono setting, no luck. Any idea on what to do?
Ipod playing functions very well.
George T. Omoregie.

Hi:

It is a Stanton 680 EL 11. I checked the package, which doe not indicate the type. I love this cartridge, I purchased two just to have one as extra. I have played more than 20 Vinyl albums with it, when I have the Yamaha RX V3000. Wife, kids, and I love the warmth it produces.

I would think it will work with the SC-09TX. I have been playing with this phone for almost a whole day.
I could if I place my ears to the plater, hear some sound, which is very faint.
Besides this problem with the TT not playing or giving me sound, I am very happy with the unit.
I can not give much report yet, because I do not really have a modern HDTV to mate it with.
I might have to report this to Pioneer if this is a problem.
Thanks for the input.

George T. Omoregie.

George,

I hope you figure out the phono. The more I use the unit, the happier I am. I did get a Pio iPod dock, but have been using the SC for all hidef video & audio, so haven't even tried it. Still working on computer into AVR directly. First attempt didn't work.

Did you connect your turntable per the attachment? Note the red circle markup I made.

 

ARB7385-A 26.pdf 162.32421875k . file

The Stanton is a MM/moving magnet cartridge, so it should work fine with no real lack of volume problems. However, that is also intended as a DJ cartridge, and it is really not the best thing to use for the best sound in a home use setup for playing records.

Now on the other hand. MC/moving coil cartridges, unless it was one of the high output ones, would be the ones that could maybe not work or have almost no or very low volume. Non high output MC cartridges most often times need a special MC head-amp to use them, and only a some of the better pre-amps ever came with them built in, and I don't think there was ever any AVR that did.

So it appears that you may not have something hooked up or set correctly, as a MM cartridge should work with no real problems.

Hi all:

I thank everyone for taking the time to share past knowledge of phono and receiver setup. I am at a cross road on this one. I have been using TT since 1975 and I know the setup is simple. I use this TT with Yamaha RXv3000 and we all love it. Since I sold my Yamaha last September, I have had no reason to continue using the TT.
I tested the TT even with a Sony TA E9000eS, works fine.

Here comes Sc-09TX, no real big screen to hook it to, the only peripherals right now areIpod, which works great, and Phono.
Two of my Kenwood Mega changers will be here next week.

I already checked the inputs, you can not go wrong with the insertion of red and white rca cable. Also used the ground cable.
I have already sent a message to Pioneer. I should get some sort of response from the tech support department by next week.

I got to Pioneer FAQ and according to the knowledge database, Pioneer wrote that their receivers only work with magnetic type cartridges. If one wants to use other type, a phono pre amp will be used in between the receiver and phono.
So I wrote to ask if Pioneer does have a specific cartridge/stylus that will work with the PL-L1000A and SC09tX and A-71 amp.
I remember several years ago, there is a special cartridge/stylus sold for about $35.00 that works with this turntable.

Waiting for Pioneer for direction.
I know the TT is not defective, and all parts, buttons work with no flaws.
If any Sc09tx owners do have access to any turntable, please test.
Maybe Pioneer forgot to do something or it is a bug.

Again, thanks all for your inputs.

George T. Omoregie.

Another success.

Routed Sony HTPC through the Pio (HDMI - HDMI - HDMI) works PERFECTLY!!!