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post #1141 of 1433
Anyone can explain what film mode set to auto does? Thx
post #1142 of 1433
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Originally Posted by bjfoien View Post

Studdad - do you know anybody with Dish? My 722 has been problem free, Hd is very good (depending on the program), but I have to admit, I stay away from SD programing like a Vampire to garlic!

Yeah, I know the Dish DVRs are pretty darn good. I am contemplating a switch if things don't get resolved soon. My only issue with Dish is they are missing a few HD channels that I watch. In addition, many say the PQ is slightly less than D*, but others say it is equal. I would need to see it to compare.
post #1143 of 1433
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Originally Posted by ipribadi View Post

Anyone can explain what film mode set to auto does? Thx

All we know is that it has to do with de-interlacing and proper 3:2 pulldown. I would recommend Film Mode set to Auto 1. If you have issues with streamers at the bottom of your screen, i.e. blur and breakup, then try Auto2, but only when you have those feeds, as Auto 1 seems to do the best job with jaggies.
post #1144 of 1433
My TV has been looking pretty good so far, although I am still having a bit of an issue on shadow detail. I used zerog's settings on my 1011 firmware and everything looks great except shadow detail. I'm being somewhat anal about it, but a lot of dark scenes just are flooded with black, and shadow detail is lacking. I brought the contrast up and down somewhat, but it didn't really have a tremendous effect. I know increasing the backlighting will help as well(as it does), but even on higher back lighting settings I see some shadow detail lacking more than I care for. What would be the best mode of action to try to correct this issue? I'm assuming playing with the white balance maybe?.........but I'm clueless. I played with some other settings and dynamic contrast settings, HDMI black settings, modes, etc., but I'm having a hard time putting all the pieces of the puzzle together.
post #1145 of 1433
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Originally Posted by 1jeffcat View Post

My TV has been looking pretty good so far, although I am still having a bit of an issue on shadow detail. I used zerog's settings on my 1011 firmware and everything looks great except shadow detail. I'm being somewhat anal about it, but a lot of dark scenes just are flooded with black, and shadow detail is lacking. I brought the contrast up and down somewhat, but it didn't really have a tremendous effect. I know increasing the backlighting will help as well(as it does), but even on higher back lighting settings I see some shadow detail lacking more than I care for. What would be the best mode of action to try to correct this issue? I'm assuming playing with the white balance maybe?.........but I'm clueless. I played with some other settings and dynamic contrast settings, HDMI black settings, modes, etc., but I'm having a hard time putting all the pieces of the puzzle together.

You are playing with all the wrong settings. Brightness controls black level and will affect shadow detail. Raise your Brightness a couple steps, and/or the Gamma one step.

Backlight is only used to control the light output of the LCD. Adjust it according to your current ambient light in your room. You'll need to adjust Backlight as that ambient light changes, and it can be set to whatever you like. Energy Saving Auto is also a very nice setting for getting deep blacks.
post #1146 of 1433
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Originally Posted by sharkcohen View Post

You are playing with all the wrong settings. Brightness controls black level and will affect shadow detail. Raise your Brightness a couple steps, and/or the Gamma one step.

Backlight is only used to control the light output of the LCD. Adjust it according to your current ambient light in your room. You'll need to adjust Backlight as that ambient light changes, and it can be set to whatever you like. Energy Saving Auto is also a very nice setting for getting deep blacks.

Alright, I'll play with the brightness when I get home tonight. I was upping the backlight to help filter more light through lesser black areas to get more detail out of them, although it begins to murder my eyes at night in a 12x12 room after a while. I believe I already raised the Gamma. I know none of these TVs are EXACTLY alike, especially with the firmware, but I'll just keep playing and mess around with the brightness more tonight. Thanks.
post #1147 of 1433
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Originally Posted by bjfoien View Post

Studdad - do you know anybody with Dish? My 722 has been problem free, Hd is very good (depending on the program), but I have to admit, I stay away from SD programing like a Vampire to garlic!

Just looked at that ViP 922 they introduced at CES,,,looks pretty sweet. I think many people will be going to Dish if D* doesn't get their ducks in a row pretty quickly.
post #1148 of 1433
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Originally Posted by 1jeffcat View Post

Alright, I'll play with the brightness when I get home tonight. I was upping the backlight to help filter more light through lesser black areas to get more detail out of them, although it begins to murder my eyes at night in a 12x12 room after a while. I believe I already raised the Gamma. I know none of these TVs are EXACTLY alike, especially with the firmware, but I'll just keep playing and mess around with the brightness more tonight. Thanks.

Set Color Space to Auto & the white balance to default, that will give you more shadow detail as well without doing any tweaking on you own. Also don't have the brightness over 45 otherwise it will affect black levels.
A correct 2.2 gamma does not always show all the shadow detail in a picture.
For example, switch to Dynamic mode with the DNIe set to off & it will have much more shadow detail than Movie or Standard mode by default.

...but Color Space & White balance is what determines shadow detail outside of the gamma/brightness options. Try upping everything in them & see how it affects the detail.
post #1149 of 1433
First, my thanks to ZEROG6 for all of the detail and explanations. Just bought this TV and his effort has helped big time.

I know I read somewhere in this forum that the LN52A750 120hz is always "ON". Can someone confirm this? And, if this is true, what is the purpose of the Off, Low, Med and High settings.

I am getting a lot of motion lines on fast moving objects and will be applying ZEROG6 settings this evening. I am hoping this will help. But, was wondering if the 120hz setting affects this issue. I am also having the "Cable Guy" coming out to switch to HD and will have him test the cable for gain and loss.

Thanks Rickyd56
post #1150 of 1433
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Originally Posted by rickyd56 View Post

First, my thanks to ZEROG6 for all of the detail and explanations. Just bought this TV and his effort has helped big time.

I know I read somewhere in this forum that the LN52A750 120hz is always "ON". Can someone confirm this? And, if this is true, what is the purpose of the Off, Low, Med and High settings.

I am getting a lot of motion lines on fast moving objects and will be applying ZEROG6 settings this evening. I am hoping this will help. But, was wondering if the 120hz setting affects this issue. I am also having the "Cable Guy" coming out to switch to HD and will have him test the cable for gain and loss.

Thanks Rickyd56


I assume you are speaking of AMP. 120Hz is the what the TV does regardless of what you turn on/off. AMP is a feature outside of the 120Hz, which is misleading since they label it "Auto Motion Plus 120Hz". AMP creates synthetic images between frame 1 and 2 and inserts it in between to help eliminate blur and it creates a more 3D image as a result as well. The motion lines, might just be the cotent or provider. I had horrible ones from ABC, but it seems to just be the provider issue. Others might have more feedback for you though.
post #1151 of 1433
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Originally Posted by wtfer View Post

Set Color Space to Auto & the white balance to default, that will give you more shadow detail as well without doing any tweaking on you own. Also don't have the brightness over 45 otherwise it will affect black levels.
A correct 2.2 gamma does not always show all the shadow detail in a picture.
For example, switch to Dynamic mode with the DNIe set to off & it will have much more shadow detail than Movie or Standard mode by default.

...but Color Space & White balance is what determines shadow detail outside of the gamma/brightness options. Try upping everything in them & see how it affects the detail.

Alright, I have the gamma at +1 and the brightness at 47, which hurt the blacks considerably in movie mode, however I have been playing with the HDMI black levels and Dynamic black levels. Right now I have the HDMI black level off, but I turned the Dynamic black level contrast on low, and it helped quite a bit, although it does somewhat accentuate glare, white spots, and oily faces. I have pretty good blacks with that setting as the dynamic blacks make the blacks quite blacker, and better shadow detail, although I'm still playing and I might tone down the brightness a couple more clicks.
post #1152 of 1433
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Originally Posted by 1jeffcat View Post

Alright, I have the gamma at +1 and the brightness at 47, which hurt the blacks considerably in movie mode, however I have been playing with the HDMI black levels and Dynamic black levels. Right now I have the HDMI black level off, but I turned the Dynamic black level contrast on low, and it helped quite a bit, although it does somewhat accentuate glare, white spots, and oily faces. I have pretty good blacks with that setting as the dynamic blacks make the blacks quite blacker, and better shadow detail, although I'm still playing and I might tone down the brightness a couple more clicks.

I assume you mean Dynamic Contrast. I love it, and always keep it on low. If you decide you like it, I would definately lower gamma to 0 and brightness to around 43 or so.
post #1153 of 1433
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Originally Posted by studdad View Post

I assume you mean Dynamic Contrast. I love it, and always keep it on low. If you decide you like it, I would definately lower gamma to 0 and brightness to around 43 or so.

what level should contrast be on then if we decide to use dynamic contrast? right now mine is at 100
post #1154 of 1433
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Originally Posted by ematsui View Post

what level should contrast be on then if we decide to use dynamic contrast? right now mine is at 100

At 100 it may be too bright for you. I have mine at 87, but depending on the set, I would say somewhere between 85-90.
post #1155 of 1433
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Originally Posted by studdad View Post

At 100 it may be too bright for you. I have mine at 87, but depending on the set, I would say somewhere between 85-90.

Yea, that's what I just did to compensate for the glareyness of oily faces the dynamic contrast gave me. I turned the black adjust on low as well for a little more black as well, although on some things I'm watching I have to turn it off. Now if I could get TWC out of Columbus to fix the terrible video studdering from their broadcast, I'll be more happy. If you made an LCD at about 20Hz, then you could imagine what it looks like on my TV right now. Definitely not the TV as FOX's coverage was excellent. Damn cable people can't keep up with my A750.
post #1156 of 1433
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Originally Posted by ematsui View Post

what level should contrast be on then if we decide to use dynamic contrast? right now mine is at 100

I wouldn't run Contrast any higher than 90 if you are using Dynamic Contrast, and Gamma no higher than +1.
post #1157 of 1433
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Originally Posted by studdad View Post

Just looked at that ViP 922 they introduced at CES,,,looks pretty sweet. I think many people will be going to Dish if D* doesn't get their ducks in a row pretty quickly.

Yeah! I wish I'd known this receiver was coming out before I got the AWESOME Slingbox for Christmas. This new Dish Network 922 DuoDVR receiver has the Slingbox features built-in. Well, I digress ....

The HD quaility with Dish Network along with my A750 is awesome. I always recommend Dish Network to anyone that will listen. My next door neighbor has Direct TV and has been disappointed with their HD quality of late.
post #1158 of 1433
I hope you guys can help with some calibration settings. My TV is the LN40A750, with SQ01 panel. Very nice PQ, and I’m happy. Not so happy is my neighbor with a LN40A750, with the SS02 panel. Pretty dramatic difference with both TVs side by side, same latest 1012 firmware, and to compare both equally, and set a common baseline, we set them both up at the standard picture settings, and did a reset. His has a much more yellow look, the whites are tinted, and even old black and white movies have a yellow cast to them. Setting his to Cool2 color temp comes close to what mine is at the normal color temp, but I don’t like the blacks as much. This is very surprising to me, I could live with the factory settings on mine if I had too, but on his, I would not be happy either. Anyway, since I’m the one that suggested this set, I would like to give him the best settings for his SS02 panel. Oh, do the number of hours on the set affect the settings at all?
His does not seem as bright either, not sure what that might be, but we cranked his backlight up a couple of notches. Odd stuff to me

I think this is a case where if he had not seen mine side by side with his, he probably would have been happy. But, when comparing the two, it's obvious which looks better ( at these settings) . It does make me question if the panels after the SQ01 are not as good.
post #1159 of 1433
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Originally Posted by Big_D_STeve View Post

His does not seem as bright either, not sure what that might be, but we cranked his backlight up a couple of notches. Odd stuff to me

I think this is a case where if he had not seen mine side by side with his, he probably would have been happy. But, when comparing the two, it's obvious which looks better ( at these settings) . It does make me question if the panels after the SQ01 are not as good.

As I stated in the owners thread, it does sound like a white balance issue, and you should utilize the white balance settings. If that does not help, i.e. if you cannot get rid of the yellow, then there may be an issue. The darkness does concern me a bit, as that was one of the issues with the SS panels with the 71 and 65/61. But, by cooling down the white balance (dial back red) you should see a brighter picture.
post #1160 of 1433
And people wonder why we shouldn't share settings.
post #1161 of 1433
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Originally Posted by sharkcohen View Post

And people wonder why we shouldn't share settings.

I kind of agree here. My methodology is that many of the TVs are great........sure there are defects in some, but most are all "similar" and not exactly alike. I relate it to car manufacturer's making a car by acceptable quality control standards. Car 1 and 2 are the same but Car 1 might have 399HP, while car 2 might have 401HP. Not the same, but similar enough. I used Zerog's settings as a shot in the dark and see if it could put me in the rough ballpark of where I wanted to be, especially since his settings was with older firmware. I'm still fine tuning, but I'm happy with where I'm getting to.
post #1162 of 1433
Say, does it matter how many hours are on a LCD prior to calibration?
post #1163 of 1433
Has anyone had problems with the little blue sammy cloth leaving hair line scratches on the there glass bevel? I returned my TV today because it had scratches all over it. The new one is flawless and I'm scared to dust it with the cloth. Is there another way to clean this beauty without scratching it?
post #1164 of 1433
I need to know how to check the firmwear. I've seen it before but don't feel like digging through this whole forum. I exchanged my TV today and need to check what firmwear it has. Thank you.
post #1165 of 1433
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Originally Posted by DJHAUG View Post

Has anyone had problems with the little blue sammy cloth leaving hair line scratches on the there glass bevel? I returned my TV today because it had scratches all over it. The new one is flawless and I'm scared to dust it with the cloth. Is there another way to clean this beauty without scratching it?

The supplied Samsung cloth will leave small scratches. yep. I know.
Samsung used cheap quality plastic on the bezel, and the plastic on the back of the TV is cheap too.
I would prefer these TVs to have the same plastic that Olevia uses! pebble grained grey boring stuff that you can actually dust without damage, and is stronger too.

That's my complaint, the PQ is great though
post #1166 of 1433
Still trying to dial in my new 750. I returned my other one because of the scratches the cloth left. I know checking the firm wear is easy but I forgot how.... anyone?
post #1167 of 1433
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Originally Posted by DJHAUG View Post

Still trying to dial in my new 750. I returned my other one because of the scratches the cloth left. I know checking the firm wear is easy but I forgot how.... anyone?

What's your panel version on the side? SQ01, SS02, etc..

Firmware; menu, plug and play, SW upgrade ( don't select it, just hover over it) and hit info
post #1168 of 1433
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Originally Posted by Big_D_STeve View Post

What's your panel version on the side? SQ01, SS02, etc..

Firmware; menu, plug and play, SW upgrade ( don't select it, just hover over it) and hit info


SQ01, Thx.
post #1169 of 1433
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Originally Posted by Big_D_STeve View Post

What's your panel version on the side? SQ01, SS02, etc..

Firmware; menu, plug and play, SW upgrade ( don't select it, just hover over it) and hit info

My plug and play is grayed out, can't select it. Any suggestions?
post #1170 of 1433
Drr, just found it. I have the 1012 firm. Thanks Big D.
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