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Kuro Elite 8G 720p or Panasonic TH-50PZ85U 1080p

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Kuro Elite 8G 720p or Panasonic TH-50PZ85U 1080p - Can get either one with few hundred difference. What is your opinion? I understand that picture probably is better on Pioneer, but Panny is a 1080p set? What would you do?

Or maybe even Samsung PN50A550?
post #2 of 24
First of all, free your mind from hype. Go and look at the brands you are interested in with an open mind. At that point you can make a fairer decision.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
I am pretty familiar with both brands. Have Pioneer 7gen 50 inch. What I am having hard time is do I really need 1080p in a set these days or I should go for a better picture quality Pionner which is a better TV, but less resolution panel. For cable it really does not matter. No 1080p any time soon, but if I get a BlueRay will I regret not getting 1080p panel?
post #4 of 24
What would your seating distance be? Will there be much ambient light when you're doing most of your viewing?

If you're seated 8ft or more from your TV 1080p will not make a difference, but if you're in a room with a lot of light, the Panny will have less reflection.
post #5 of 24
Thread Starter 
11-12 feet
post #6 of 24
really? I've heard 8 from a few places, but not from any source I would consider gospel. It is definitely something quantifiable, is 11-12 feet scientifically supported?

I'm not doubting you, I just want to know if yours is the correctly calculated answer.
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by Coggs View Post

really? I've heard 8 from a few places, but not from any source I would consider gospel. It is definitely something quantifiable, is 11-12 feet scientifically supported?

I'm not doubting you, I just want to know if yours is the correctly calculated answer.

I am viewing from 11-12 feet. From what I understand 1080p is not important after 8-9 feet. I think you right. But I am still having hard time choosing between 1080p set or better picture quality 720p set.
post #8 of 24
oh LOL! sorry I thought you were correcting me :-P

My money would be on the Pio, unless your in a bright room. Even if the Panny has a little more "pop" and seems more vivid in the store, at the end of a 3 hour movie (in a fairly dark room) you'll find the Pio is more than bright enough, and you'll fall in love with those blacks. Also you'll only be able to see 1080p on blu-ray disks, and PS3 video games, which I think the pio will handle better anyways.
post #9 of 24
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So no takers for my question? I really need some input!
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by ld100 View Post

So no takers for my question? I really need some input!

I sit 10-11 feet from my 5080 and the picture is stunning. HD programs and even upconverted DVD's almost look 3-D. CNET and Home Theatre Magazine reviewed the 5080 as the best flat panel they ever seen and it was tested against the competitions 1080P sets. I don't have a Blu-Ray player but, from what I've read on this forum it too looks fantastic on the 5080.
post #11 of 24
I sit 10 feet from a 42" Kuro and the lack of resolution is an issue...for me. That and it's relatively noisy picture in some scenes.

That being said, the sub par black level of the Panasonic is also an issue...bottom line is that YOU have to make the decision...don't rely on us, rely on yourself! Go and view both sets and see what you think.
post #12 of 24
Yes listen to the post above go look at them again. I am pretty shocked you can find a Pioneer now so you have to move quickly.
post #13 of 24
On the list of most important factors in video quality, resolution is pretty far down the list, especially at that view distance. I have the 1150 HD which is their Elite 720 (really 768) set. TV, Blu Ray, DVD, videogames all look stunning. Couldn't be happier.
post #14 of 24
I think the Pioneer 1150 would be the way to go, especially if you're viewing from 12 feet. The picture quality advantages of the Elite 1150 outweigh the 1080p resolution of the Panasonic at that distance in my opinion.
post #15 of 24
If I can still get a 5080hd, should I over a panny 50pz85u? Seating distance between 6 and 7ft. No bluray yet. Don't have HD cable yet but I will. Lots of Wii gaming. Ambient light not much of an issue.
post #16 of 24
At 6-7 feet 1080p is more important, I would definitely want 1080p at that distance, you'd have to see for yourself. Also, It's pretty difficult to find a 5080 now..........
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by ehutch View Post

If I can still get a 5080hd, should I over a panny 50pz85u? Seating distance between 6 and 7ft. No bluray yet. Don't have HD cable yet but I will. Lots of Wii gaming. Ambient light not much of an issue.

Due to the circumstances I would choose the Panasonic IMO
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by ehutch View Post

If I can still get a 5080hd, should I over a panny 50pz85u? Seating distance between 6 and 7ft. No bluray yet. Don't have HD cable yet but I will. Lots of Wii gaming. Ambient light not much of an issue.

In my opinion, viewing a 50" screen at 6 feet is a bit close. That is like sitting in the front row of a theatre. I sit 10-11 feet from my 5080 and I thinks it is perfect. Even the 10 feet took some time to get comfortable.
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by burnsalkire View Post

In my opinion, viewing a 50" screen at 6 feet is a bit close. That is like sitting in the front row of a theatre. I sit 10-11 feet from my 5080 and I thinks it is perfect. Even the 10 feet took some time to get comfortable.

burnsalkire,

You can sure help me. I was set on the 50" for so long. Now that I'm getting close to the purchase, I'm thinking of the 58"

I'm about 11.5-12' away. What do you think.

I want the "movie" experience, but hell, I don't want to be overwhelmed either. + with buying on the net, the whole notion of return is less than exciting.

???
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by rightslot View Post

burnsalkire,

You can sure help me. I was set on the 50" for so long. Now that I'm getting close to the purchase, I'm thinking of the 58"

I'm about 11.5-12' away. What do you think.

I want the "movie" experience, but hell, I don't want to be overwhelmed either. + with buying on the net, the whole notion of return is less than exciting.

???

You're another 2 feet beyond where I sit. Like I said, it will take a bit to get use to but you'll love it when you do. What size screen do you currently have?
Make a cardboard mock up of each and you'll get a real feel for the sizes.
I don't blame you for being less than exicted regarding the return process.
It has to be a major headache.
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by rightslot View Post

burnsalkire,

You can sure help me. I was set on the 50" for so long. Now that I'm getting close to the purchase, I'm thinking of the 58"

I'm about 11.5-12' away. What do you think.

I want the "movie" experience, but hell, I don't want to be overwhelmed either. + with buying on the net, the whole notion of return is less than exciting.

???

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1027737

.. or 58" Panasonic option.
post #22 of 24
I never had a person tell me they went too big. On the other hand I have heard complaints they should of had bigger, ultimately it depends if you like the close up experience. I would look at the Panasonic TH-58PH10UKA which Includes a Dual HDMI Board. And then you have added tweaking functions since this is a pro model.
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by ROMAN O View Post

I never had a person tell me they went too big. On the other hand I have heard complaints they should of had bigger, ultimately it depends if you like the close up experience. I would look at the Panasonic TH-58PH10UKA which Includes a Dual HDMI Board. And then you have added tweaking functions since this is a pro model.

Thanks for the quick replies.

Tell me this: is the PH10UKA on the same level PQ-wise as the 700U ??
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by rightslot View Post

Thanks for the quick replies.

Tell me this: is the PH10UKA on the same level PQ-wise as the 700U ??

I think its better since you have more options for settings and tweaking ability. I am open to hear from more Pro Panny owners, but from my experience and feedback for sure.
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