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post #121 of 593
That's the NBC influence for ya!
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It did have heavy promotion back when it was new. Don't think it helped any.

I'm not sure any show has had as much exposure as Warehouse 13 has been given, but Eureka is doing pretty well and was from my understanding the highest scripted series on SciFi(Syfy), before it went on extended hiatus
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I'm not sure any show has had as much exposure as Warehouse 13 has been given, but Eureka is doing pretty well and was from my understanding the highest scripted series on SciFi(Syfy), before it went on extended hiatus

Eureka got huge amount of promotion during it's first season. They had fake "Made in Eureka" spots everywhere and annoying promo bug for it all the time.

What you have now is a natural decline in ratings because the show is old. Not only that but it's also exactly the same thing every week. There's very little continuity or growth on Eureka. In fact there's actually a lot of shrinking.

Characters vanish into thin air on a regular basis. When the show started there where far more (interesting) characters than the handful they have now. The autistic son of Allison, Matt Frewer's hunter, Debrah Farentino as the Doctor, Nathan Stark etc.
post #124 of 593
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Eureka got huge amount of promotion during it's first season. They had fake "Made in Eureka" spots everywhere and annoying promo bug for it all the time.

What you have now is a natural decline in ratings because the show is old. Not only that but it's also exactly the same thing every week. There's very little continuity or growth on Eureka. In fact there's actually a lot of shrinking.

Characters vanish into thin air on a regular basis. When the show started there where far more (interesting) characters than the handful they have now. The autistic son of Allison, Matt Frewer's hunter, Debrah Farentino as the Doctor, Nathan Stark etc.

I'm sure being on Friday night has nothing to do with the ratings. It was the highest rated scripted series on SciFi last year.
post #125 of 593
Maybe I'm glad I'm just discovering Eureka. I haven't been around long enough to experience the ruts it may have fallen into. To me, it's a breath of fresh air on Friday nights. I like the ensemble a lot. It's great to be able to see Joe Morton on a regular series. He's really, really good. I'm also quickly becoming a fan of Salli Richardson-Whitfield (Allison Blake). What wonderfully expressive eyes and voice she has. I remember Jamie Rae Newman (Tess Fontana) in a small recurring role as Lt. Cadman on Stargate Atlantis, where she had a similarly playful role opposite David Hewlett.

Any word about the possible release of Eureka on Blu-ray? Google turned up nothing. I'd like to catch up, but I don't want to do it on DVD. The lighting doesn't hold a candle to Stargate Atlantis, but the HD quality is good, and I wouldn't want to watch it in SD.
post #126 of 593
I have watched Eureka from the beginning and continue to enjoy it. I confess, though, that Jamie Rae Newman is about to wear out her welcome with me. She is a beautiful young woman but seems to specialize in being cute. Worse, she lisps. Oh, well, she is pleasant to look at. I agree that Joe Morton is excellent as Sheriff Carter; he is the main reason the series has done so well, it seems to me. On balance, Eureka has been a pleasant upgrade to the usual dreck that is available on TV in the summer.
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I have watched Eureka from the beginning and continue to enjoy it. I confess, though, that Jamie Rae Newman is about to wear out her welcome with me. She is a beautiful young woman but seems to specialize in being cute. Worse, she lisps. Oh, well, she is pleasant to look at. I agree that Joe Morton is excellent as Sheriff Carter; he is the main reason the series has done so well, it seems to me. On balance, Eureka has been a pleasant upgrade to the usual dreck that is available on TV in the summer.

Joe Morton is Henry Deacon, Colin Ferguson is Carter. Zane must be on limited appearances this season, he seems to be on one week and not the next, was he even on the show last night?
post #128 of 593
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I have watched Eureka from the beginning and continue to enjoy it. I confess, though, that Jamie Rae Newman is about to wear out her welcome with me. She is a beautiful young woman but seems to specialize in being cute. Worse, she lisps. Oh, well, she is pleasant to look at. I agree that Joe Morton is excellent as Sheriff Carter; he is the main reason the series has done so well, it seems to me. On balance, Eureka has been a pleasant upgrade to the usual dreck that is available on TV in the summer.

I suspect Jamie Rae Newman does cute-and-sarcastic well enough that she's gotten asked to do it again. (It's possible the role was written with her - and that personality trait -in mind. She played a similar character opposite "Rodney McKay" pretty well for 3 or 4 episodes in Stargate Atlantis.) It does wear thin pretty quick, though, doesn't it? Last night's ep, where she almost drowns in the elevator, allowed her to show a little more range. She's been increasingly more believable as she warms up to Sheriff Carter, I think.

I'm assuming Sheriff Carter has always been the same guy in this series, right? He's the guy who can see the fast growing forest for what it is, while the "brilliant" scientists around him are too busy looking at the trees to come up with the answer they need to save the day. Colin Ferguson is great in the role. He takes soft-voiced, tender charm to a high level.

I don't know why it took me so long to get into this show. I knew when I saw these characters in the first episode I watched that I'd get hooked. Do they often run Eureka marathons like they did for the beginning of this season?
post #129 of 593
I feel the same as you Joseph. I just began watching Eureka (or anything on Syfy or Sci-Fi for that matter!) when Warehouse 13 began. I'm hooked! Perfect summer fare.
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I suspect Jamie Rae Newman does cute-and-sarcastic well enough that she's gotten asked to do it again. (It's possible the role was written with her - and that personality trait -in mind. She played a similar character opposite "Rodney McKay" pretty well for 3 or 4 episodes in Stargate Atlantis.) It does wear thin pretty quick, though, doesn't it? Last night's ep, where she almost drowns in the elevator, allowed her to show a little more range. She's been increasingly more believable as she warms up to Sheriff Carter, I think.

I agree that Newman is not completely without talent and she is beautiful. Nevertheless, I get tired enough of her underbite, collagen filled lips, and lisp that I often wish she would just go away. Now that you mention it, I remember her in those episodes on Stargate Atlantis with the Dr. Rodney McCay character. I don't recall that she exasperated me as much in those performances as she has during her Eureka gig. Maybe she's just been overexposed on Eureka, it took awhile for me to start being driven nuts by her lisp, or maybe she had cosmetic surgery after her Stargate Atlantis appearances, which resulted in a speech defect.
post #131 of 593
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Do they often run Eureka marathons like they did for the beginning of this season?

No, they don't. I've been trying to catch season 1 and season 2 in HD forever, I think they may have shown several of Season #2 back a couple of years ago, but they seem to keep them on the shelf. They ran the first 8 episodes of Season #3 several times, but they don't run them much. They are doing the same thing for Sanctuary, I don't think they've shown any episodes since the first season ended. If you hear of an upcoming marathon, please post it in this thread, I try to keep an eye out all the time for older Eureka episodes.
post #132 of 593
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No, they don't. I've been trying to catch season 1 and season 2 in HD forever, I think they may have shown several of Season #2 back a couple of years ago, but they seem to keep them on the shelf. They ran the first 8 episodes of Season #3 several times, but they don't run them much. They are doing the same thing for Sanctuary, I don't think they've shown any episodes since the first season ended. If you hear of an upcoming marathon, please post it in this thread, I try to keep an eye out all the time for older Eureka episodes.

I'll definitely do that. I regret axing the Eureka mini-marathon eps from my Dish DVR a few weeks ago.
post #133 of 593
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I agree that Newman is not completely without talent and she is beautiful. Nevertheless, I get tired enough of her underbite, collagen filled lips, and lisp that I often wish she would just go away. Now that you mention it, I remember her in those episodes on Stargate Atlantis with the Dr. Rodney McCay character. I don't recall that she exasperated me as much in those performances as she has during her Eureka gig. Maybe she's just been overexposed on Eureka, it took awhile for me to start being driven nuts by her lisp, or maybe she had cosmetic surgery after her Stargate Atlantis appearances, which resulted in a speech defect.

I think she was effective in Atlantis because she was such a good counter puncher to the sarcastic McKay. While the other Atlantis characters tolerated his scientific arrogance and sniggered at his romantic ineptitude, she just flat out slapped him silly with the no-holds-barred truth. Those David Hewlett scenes in which she "inhabited" his body are still some of my favorite Atlantis comic moments.

It's only taken a couple of episodes for Tess' sarcasm to be tempered by the obvious intelligence and charm of Sheriff Carter. I was half afraid they were going to kill her off last night. I'm inclined not to look up too much about the show at this point. I don't have a good "feel" for it yet (in terms of the interpersonal relationships or story lines) but I'll just let it unfold for a while.

Did someone mention how many eps are scheduled for this summer?
post #134 of 593
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I think she was effective in Atlantis because she was such a good counter puncher to the sarcastic McKay. While the other Atlantis characters tolerated his scientific arrogance and sniggered at his romantic ineptitude, she just flat out slapped him silly with the no-holds-barred truth. Those David Hewlett scenes in which she "inhabited" his body are still some of my favorite Atlantis comic moments.

It's only taken a couple of episodes for Tess' sarcasm to be tempered by the obvious intelligence and charm of Sheriff Carter. I was half afraid they were going to kill her off last night. I'm inclined not to look up too much about the show at this point. I don't have a good "feel" for it yet (in terms of the interpersonal relationships of story lines) but I'll just let it unfold for a while.

Did someone mention how many eps are scheduled for this summer?

10, which will make a total of 18 for season 3, of course season #3(.5) was supposed to resume at the start of the year and was originally supposed to be an additional 13 episodes. No one seems to know why they didn't resume then or why the number of episodes were shortened.
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10, which will make a total of 18 for season 3, of course season #3(.5) was supposed to resume at the start of the year and was originally supposed to be an additional 13 episodes. No one seems to know why they didn't resume then or why the number of episodes were shortened.

Disappointing. Probably means they're less likely to air more past episodes, too. I may just break down and rent the DVDs from Blockbuster. I really didn't want to do that.
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Disappointing. Probably means they're less likely to air more past episodes, too. I may just break down and rent the DVDs from Blockbuster. I really didn't want to do that.

Hulu did have the first season available, haven't been there lately. Just checked, looks like they took them down, only the recent episodes are available.
post #137 of 593
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Hulu did have the first season available, haven't been there lately. Just checked, looks like they took them down, only the recent episodes are available.

My guess is that once the season is over for 5 weeks or so(when all the current episodes expire) they will post some backlog of episodes.
post #138 of 593
My local BB doesn't have any Eureka, and BB Online has season 1 listed as "Very Long Wait." Guess I'll just have to exercise a little patience.
post #139 of 593
I still love this show and the characters. Just hope it gets renewed.
post #140 of 593
Always liked this show and the characters, but admittedly liked it better back in the "Nathan Stark" days.

As others pointed out, I do find some of it to be a bit repetitive. Something strange happens, linked to an experiment that is going to destroy people/Eureka/the world, and nobody knows how to fix it. Then someone says something obscure which sets off a "eureka!" moment for Carter (who is supposed to be the dumb one), who comes up with the solution and saves the day.

But regardless, the characters have good chemistry and I enjoy the show, and I like that they try to make standalone episodes (that can be watched out of order) while also having an ongoing arch (like the artifact from previous seasons and this season's signal from space).
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Then someone says something obscure which sets off a "eureka!" moment for Carter (who is supposed to be the dumb one), who comes up with the solution and saves the day.

I hadn't had that "Eureka!" moment yet - putting together Carter's insightful leaps with the title of the show. Now I feel slow.
post #142 of 593
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Just checked the guide and Syfy.com and we have an upcoming 22 hour marathon for Eureka on Friday 9/4/09 thru Sat. 9/5/09(8:00am => 6:00amET) They aren't listing the episodes that will be shown though, so I don't know what episodes are airing.

As it stands there have been or will be by 9/4/09 16 episodes for Season #3, so hopefully we'll get several Season #2 or Season #1 episodes, I would love to see it be all Season 1 and Season 2 episodes. One can always hope
post #143 of 593
Terrific! Thanks.
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Always liked this show and the characters, but admittedly liked it better back in the "Nathan Stark" days.

As others pointed out, I do find some of it to be a bit repetitive. Something strange happens, linked to an experiment that is going to destroy people/Eureka/the world, and nobody knows how to fix it. Then someone says something obscure which sets off a "eureka!" moment for Carter (who is supposed to be the dumb one), who comes up with the solution and saves the day.

That's really the downfall of this show. It's ironic that the show is supposed to be about a town of geniuses and the plots are so simplistic and dumb. The first season wasn't as bad as it is now, which you nicely summarized. The characters were more complex and varied and Ferguson's everyman charm was a nice contrast.

For Carter you would think that after having worked there as long as he now has would at least have taken a basic refresher course in physics. It's not as if he has to spend his time training with the gang task force or community relations. The non-science crime level appears to be non-existent.

The worst part of the show for me now is that whenever a new genius appears they are obviously going to be responsible for the week's calamity and never appear again. Yet the show stills need to have the recurring cast perform every necessary task in Eureka.

It was originally funny that Henry the repairman could do everything, but now it's just showing the limits of the budget. Especially this week when the most qualified person in the entire town to perform an autopsy was Fargo. Just because he's assisted Henry before.
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Terrific! Thanks.

Just found out it will be chosen from a viewer choice poll, which unfortunately closed on 8/21/09 But, if the lists people were listing on the message board are any indication, the two hour Pilot should definitely make the list. Now, let's hope that if they do show some earlier episodes, that they'll be shown in HD.

Digging deeper, the best news of all, Eureka will be picked up for Season #4 and for 22 episodes:

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...on-eureka.html
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Just found out it will be chosen from a viewer choice poll, which unfortunately closed on 8/21/09 But, if the lists people were listing on the message board are any indication, the two hour Pilot should definitely make the list. Now, let's hope that if they do show some earlier episodes, that they'll be shown in HD.

Digging deeper, the best news of all, Eureka will be picked up for Season #4 and for 22 episodes:

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...on-eureka.html

I love the idea of a Eureka musical (from your link). Remember the Drew Carey musical episode (forgettable) or the Buffy musical episode (brilliant)? You'd need to carry some of the Buffy cast members' tunes in a toxic waste container, but I still loved it. It'll be fun to see which of the Eureka cast can actually sing.
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I love the idea of a Eureka musical (from your link). Remember the Drew Carey musical episode (forgettable) or the Buffy musical episode (brilliant)? You'd need to carry some of the Buffy cast members' tunes in a toxic waste container, but I still loved it. It'll be fun to see which of the Eureka cast can actually sing.

They can run a musical if they'll hold to the 22 episode order. I can't believe that news is over a month old.
post #148 of 593
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That's really the downfall of this show. It's ironic that the show is supposed to be about a town of geniuses and the plots are so simplistic and dumb. The first season wasn't as bad as it is now, which you nicely summarized. The characters were more complex and varied and Ferguson's everyman charm was a nice contrast.

For Carter you would think that after having worked there as long as he now has would at least have taken a basic refresher course in physics. It's not as if he has to spend his time training with the gang task force or community relations. The non-science crime level appears to be non-existent.

The worst part of the show for me now is that whenever a new genius appears they are obviously going to be responsible for the week's calamity and never appear again. Yet the show stills need to have the recurring cast perform every necessary task in Eureka.

It was originally funny that Henry the repairman could do everything, but now it's just showing the limits of the budget. Especially this week when the most qualified person in the entire town to perform an autopsy was Fargo. Just because he's assisted Henry before.

Well, I'm enjoying these episodes now. None of it is tired or old for me, because I haven't seen that much of it yet. It's going to be strange to start from the beginning, but hearing all the comments about how the show used to be better is encouraging. I remember having a similar thing happen with MASH long ago. I got into it while it was in syndication (but still airing new episodes) and eventually managed to put its development as a series into a chronological context. It was some of the best television I ever saw, and, by the end of their run, some of the worst. The best that I've seen of Eureka doesn't come close to the best of MASH, but the worst I've seen of Eureka doesn't come close to the painful awfulness that was MASH in its death throes.
post #149 of 593
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Well, I'm enjoying these episodes now. None of it is tired or old for me, because I haven't seen that much of it yet. It's going to be strange to start from the beginning, but hearing all the comments about how the show used to be better is encouraging.

If I were in your position I would record the rest of this season but find and watch the first season on DVD now. Then come back and watch this. It will still be fairly fresh and you might like it more when you have the character dynamics set up.

Like for example that Carter or his daughter never wanted to go to Eureka and he was in the middle of relocating her as a punishment.
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Just checked the guide and Syfy.com and we have an upcoming 22 hour marathon for Eureka on Friday 9/4/09 thru Sat. 9/5/09(8:00am => 6:00amET) They aren't listing the episodes that will be shown though, so I don't know what episodes are airing.

As it stands there have been or will be by 9/4/09 16 episodes for Season #3, so hopefully we'll get several Season #2 or Season #1 episodes, I would love to see it be all Season 1 and Season 2 episodes. One can always hope


A warning for D* customers (which might be out of date by now - I haven't looked in two days): all those marathon episodes are listed as 'new' in the guide. So, if you record new shows only, and only save 5-10 shows max, you might get old shows deleted. Hopefully, an adjustment to the program info has been/will be made, so this doesn't happen....
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