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post #1771 of 1785
Oh forgot. If you use Paradigm, the PBK (Perfect Bass Kit -- essentially Anthem's ARC but for 150 Hz and lower only) is the best.

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post #1772 of 1785
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View PostOh forgot. If you use Paradigm, the PBK (Perfect Bass Kit -- essentially Anthem's ARC but for 150 Hz and lower only) is the best.

Too bad it doesn't work with other subs!

post #1773 of 1785
Yeah. I've been bugging Paradigm to sell a universal PBK module such as DSPeaker to no avail frown.gif
post #1774 of 1785
Does simplify audio not carry the 8033S-II? I don't see anything about it on their site. And the only specs the they list are from the old 8033 model.
post #1775 of 1785
I have a SC-61 Elite coming and am looking at the 8033Cinema for my VTF15, and I think I may have asked this question in the wrong thread.

Do I understand correctly that I just run the 8033 setup first, then run MCACC after the 8033 has eq'd the sub? Does the sub gain have any bearing on the 8033 calibration, or is it OK to adjust once MCACC is complete? Is there anything to turn off or on in MCACC to no conflict what the 8033C is doing to the sub signal already?
post #1776 of 1785
Yes, you run the 8033 first , then run FULL AUTO MCACC, then go to manual speakef settings to fix crossover points, speaker size, set subwoofer to PLUS and also fix distances EXCEPT FOR SUBWOOFER.
post #1777 of 1785
It is my understanding that EQ should be the last step in the chain. Running EQ before MCACC may lead to a change in the phase adjustment and time alignment after MCACC standing wave correction. Also, changing the distance set by MCACC will change the sub's response in the room. The distances set by MCACC do not have to match up with measured distances since it is based on the time it takes the bass to reach the mic in phase with the rest of the speakers.

I don't use this form of EQ for my Pioneer Elite avr but, I have found that trying to EQ to a flat response may not give the best results. I don't think you can treat the MCACC program like the people do with Auddysee. MCACC and Auddysee do not approach bass management in the same way. The standing wave function can do some things for the bass in the room that EQ cannot do.
post #1778 of 1785
Hence the running of 8033 and MCACC together.
post #1779 of 1785
Hi.
New behringer shark fbq100. Is this a cheaper option of the 8033?
post #1780 of 1785
Under $400 the Antimode gets my vote. The MiniDSP is good too for much less.
post #1781 of 1785
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Originally Posted by rnatalli View Post

Under $400 the Antimode gets my vote. The MiniDSP is good too for much less.

Doesn't minidsp work for the whole freq band but the 8033 just the bass?
post #1782 of 1785
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post


Doesn't minidsp work for the whole freq band but the 8033 just the bass?

MiniDSP can be configured to work over any frequency range, but is more often used for subwoofer, and allows the AVR to eq above the crossover.  There are different types of miniDSP.  The common one for subs is called the 2 x 4 version, which has 2 inputs and 4 ouputs.  It works very well with REW.  I spent a couple hours with mine eq'g my new sub and will be experimenting a lot this Wednesday.  The first result I got was pretty good though, even though I think I can get my response a lot flatter.

post #1783 of 1785
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Originally Posted by jaydee2008 View Post

Hi.
New behringer shark fbq100. Is this a cheaper option of the 8033?

See Q & A in the attached link to the part listed on Parts Express. "This unit does not have a pmanual parametric EQ function like the other feedback destroyers that are used for this, so unfortunately it will not work for that application."

http://www.parts-express.com/behringer-fbq100-shark-automatic-feedback-destroyer--248-6676
post #1784 of 1785
Thanks mbartok. Good answer, that is what I throught it could do for a single subwoofer eq but i was wrong. and looks like anti-mode 8033cinema is the most ecomical and ease of seting up solution. Unless someone else have better value solution for single sub. cheers
Edited by jaydee2008 - 2/25/14 at 6:34pm
post #1785 of 1785
Got a 8033Cinema but would like if it outputted responses prior to any EQ and also after. That way I could use it as a stand alone unit to see if the other systems need an EQ. Would pay an extra £30 or so if it had a micro SD card so it saves responses. Can then disconnect the card, save the files, move AM to another system, do it again, take it round brothers etc.
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