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post #271 of 491
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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ View Post

LOL. Perfect.

I see it all over AVS. TV forums, HD forums, gaming forums, etc. People buy products they resent to give their negative opinions of them more weight. Anyway, I was just speaking in general and not specifically about anybody in this thread

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Originally Posted by William Mapstone View Post

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/881/881472p1.html
The state side IGN review is up. They gave it a 10/10.

Frankly, after the UK review gave it a 9.9 and all of the hype surrounding this game, I'm surprised they gave it a perfect 10. I thought the natural progression would be to bring the initial hype from last week down somewhat.

Brandon
post #272 of 491
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Originally Posted by GrooveRite View Post

Wow, thats pretty impressive! I'm a run and gun type of player so I hope I can look past that for this game. As long as the game isn't slow and boring, I should have no problem enjoying it I think.

You can run and gun in this game if you like also... But i doubt it will to your benefit
post #273 of 491
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Originally Posted by newfmp3 View Post

I bought it today, and just spent about 2-3 hours with it.

Let me first say that I have never liked the MGS series, and that goes back to the NES. My last experience with MGS was MGS2 on the xbox, and the controls were so bad I got frustrated and gave up, and then I tried it on the PC...same story. Speaking of story, the entire japanese mess that is MGS storyline has never been a high point for me.

I can't say I'm as impressed with the game as some others here. Graphically it is indeed impressive, but pretty does not equal good game.

Combat controls are again a mess. Move too slow even with sensitivity on max and if an enemy gets close to you forget it, you are going to die as turning around takes forever.

System for choosing weapons and items is a bit odd, and too many menu's to go through just to choose the weapon you just picked up.

Wtf was up with the odd work out video the first 5 mins of the game? and then again with someone frying eggs??? made no sense whatsoever.

The game has some confusion to it, by that I mean it isn't always clear as to where you are supposed to be going or who you are/aren't supposed to shoot. Eventually you figure it out, but for a while I was totally at a loss.

The cut scenes are really WAYYYYY TOOOO LLOOOOONG AND DRRRAAAGGGED OUT! get my point? The entire scene where you meet the guy that will sell you weapons could have beenn 60 seconds long, but instead it went on forever and I lost interest.

Animation is top notch, again graphically there is no complaint at all. Nice use of the dualshock and vibration, although I still hate the triggers and sticks on this thing.

Honestly, the game is a RENT for me. I bought it....oh well.

Def not a game for you!
post #274 of 491
wtf is with the "commercials"? these odd videos in the game that happen at random. It is like someone changing channels
post #275 of 491
lol, I'm trying to skip through most of this IGN review so as to not expose myself to potential spoilers, but they are obviously enamored by it.

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Closing Comments
Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a title that exceeds all of the hype that was attached to the title. Regardless of whether you've seen every trailer and screenshot, read every preview and heard every interview, you won't get a full sense of how phenomenal this title is unless you sit down and experience it for yourself.

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Another Take
from Greg Miller
Buy this game. I don't care if the gameplay in the past titles didn't appeal to you, I don't care if long cutscenes scare you, and I don't care if you're broke.
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the best reason to own a PlayStation 3 thus far.

This game is emotional, powerful, fun, beautiful, deep, engaging, and just about every other positive adjective you could assign it. Metal Gear Solid 4 pulls you in and doesn't let you go until the final, final credits roll.

I'm sad to Snake go, but he couldn't have asked for a better sendoff.

Unfortunately I'm sure people won't heed the bolded advice and will wish they were just in another fragfest

Brandon
post #276 of 491
The last and only Metal Gear game I played was 2...I really enjoyed the gameplay and I like the cutscenes although I have to admit I was rather confused by the story and didn't really get it all.

This new one is fantastic though and is a lot of fun!
post #277 of 491
so is this game 7.1 or not ? it lights up on my receiver as PCM and all 7 speakers show up on my display but no sounds comes from the back 2. Resistance works just fine, but not this game, so im gonna assume it not 7.1
post #278 of 491
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Originally Posted by William Mapstone View Post

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/881/881472p1.html
The state side IGN review is up. They gave it a 10/10.

I can't wait for the complaints about the reviews. The only things better are the complaints about the cutscenes and the story.
post #279 of 491
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Originally Posted by JD23 View Post

I can't wait for the complaints about the reviews. The only things better are the complaints about the cutscenes and the story.

Like I said... monster backlash inevitable. Will make GTA4 and Halo 3 backlash look like a love-in.
post #280 of 491
The only thing i dont like about the people who cant get into this game do to it being too slow for them, is the fact you come into this game looking and anticipating COD4 type of gameplay and have no PATIENCE.

This game is a masterpiece as far as completing Snakes final mission after all the other Metal gears. Give it and yourself sometime to let it come to you, granted that it might not be the game for you. But this game is a must buy to have in your collection, I never even played past the first part of MGS3 but this on I have been on non stop and now I am taking a break to how other feel about the game.

Do not get this game and its gameplay twisted with COD4!!!!
post #281 of 491
Awesome...I finally picked up a used copy of MGS4 at a local gamestop. Just a few miles further than the closest two gamestops.

Brandon
post #282 of 491
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I seem to remember you (headrusch) giving me a hard time about crysis and gears of war because I said they were also lacking.
This is a pretty good game but not a 10. I agree with you "this time" lol

Hehehehe..well I never found Gears to be a great game. It was an OK game dressed up in really nice clothes. I got to the end of that game and realized, aside from the eye-porn, I didn't have alot of reason to go back through and play it again...ever.

But Crysis is one of the best FPS's out in awhile......I gotta stand my ground on that one. Its a weak position, I know, but its a vice...I just had too much fun punching down buildings on hapless grunts
post #283 of 491
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Originally Posted by superrober View Post

"It's intended for audiences with longer attention spans. "

HAHA That´s exactly what I told goofy ass brother in law when he told me he hated metal gear


yes i caught that little remark and ignored it

It's not about attention spans in the comment I made. There are scenes were you waste a good 30 seconds watching someone slowly walk around, with no point to it at all, and then they finally start talking. That is what I am saying.

I'm all about a well told story and whatnot, I am a single player type person mostly and have no issue with paying very close attention to details and exploring every corner. But....for someone that even likes cutscenes, some of them are too long.

I am enjoying the game much more now, getting more used to the controls. The game is not without it's faults, but it is good. Is it a 10? No.

I'll give it my score when I finish it.

PS, I want my own real life MKII
post #284 of 491
I rent most game from through my MVP game plan at Hollywood Video. An employee in my local Hollywood video got a PS3 two months ago. He said he took MGS4 home last night and played. He is an avid gamer and a 360 owner. In his words, game of the year. I am going to settle in here in a few and play and see. My son tried earlier for two hours and his words were wow, awesome. I figured I would check in here and see what the word was.
post #285 of 491
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Originally Posted by newfmp3 View Post

Is it a 10? No.

I'll bite: what game(s) are a 10?

Brandon
post #286 of 491
what's with all the "it's not a 10 it's more like an 8.75" crap? It's mental masturbation, you either like, love, dislike, or hate it. I love it so far.
post #287 of 491
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

I'll bite: what game(s) are a 10?

Brandon

Since "10" means total perfection, I'd imagine no games are 10's. Not in my book anyway. Nothing is perfect, especially not Metal Gear.

I don't mind the cut scenes so far. I'm having a great time! But to call this or any other game "perfect" is just stupid. MGS2 got tons of perfect 10 scores but most people seem to hate that game.
post #288 of 491
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Since "10" means total perfection...

10.0, 10/10, 5/5, 100% does not imply that it is perfect and it doesn't mean that everyone will like it. It just means that, in terms of technical performance and artistic merit, it is among the cream of the crop. A 10.0 can merely suggest that the game is in the top percentile.

Don't **** your pants just because an imperfect game got a 10. No game is perfect, but a select handful still deserve a perfect score. Is MGS4 one of them? I haven't played enough to give my opinion. As for GTA4, it's not even close.

Btw, Famitsu gave MGS4 a 40/40, making it the eighth game to receive the honor.
post #289 of 491
Thread Starter 
I wish I could play but life keeps getting in the way . I'll start it this weekend.

I picked it up from Circuit City since it came with a free strat book. I won't open the book's plastic seal until I finish the game, but it'll be fun to see how my progress compares to the guide in the end.

For the 10.0 debate, I loved MGS2 and thought it was an easy 10... until the first awesome section ended and you spent the rest of the game on that tanker as Raiden . It then dropped to a 7.0 for me. Hopefully this game holds up well from start to finish as most reviews suggest.
post #290 of 491
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Originally Posted by kmlm13 View Post

so is this game 7.1 or not ? it lights up on my receiver as PCM and all 7 speakers show up on my display but no sounds comes from the back 2. Resistance works just fine, but not this game, so im gonna assume it not 7.1



I am getting the same thing.... if it is not 7.1 why is it the receiver picking 7 channels? I thought the back two might be reserved from something, but the two don't even come on in the beginning with the dolby logo..... that sucks
post #291 of 491
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Originally Posted by Bokchoy View Post


Don't **** your pants just because an imperfect game got a 10.

What the hell? Are you like five years old or something?
post #292 of 491
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Originally Posted by Cynn View Post

Since "10" means total perfection, I'd imagine no games are 10's. Not in my book anyway. Nothing is perfect, especially not Metal Gear.

I don't mind the cut scenes so far. I'm having a great time! But to call this or any other game "perfect" is just stupid. MGS2 got tons of perfect 10 scores but most people seem to hate that game.

You couldn't possibly think a 10 means perfect, do you? 10 means it's just about as great as a game could possibly be at review time. It's the highest praise to give a game and in no way whatsoever suggests the game is perfect.
post #293 of 491
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

I wish I could play but life keeps getting in the way . I'll start it this weekend.

I picked it up from Circuit City since it came with a free strat book. I won't open the book's plastic seal until I finish the game, but it'll be fun to see how my progress compares to the guide in the end.

For the 10.0 debate, I loved MGS2 and thought it was an easy 10... until the first awesome section ended and you spent the rest of the game on that tanker as Raiden . It then dropped to a 7.0 for me. Hopefully this game holds up well from start to finish as most reviews suggest.

Another Raiden hater....
post #294 of 491
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Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score.

Its funny that people are complaining about reviewers giving out 10's for games, when this reviewer wanted to give MGS4 an 11! LOL....
post #295 of 491
Can someone tell me why MGS4 has the best title screen ever.

Snake lighting up at a cemetery.
post #296 of 491
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Originally Posted by Megalith View Post

Can someone tell me why MGS4 has the best title screen ever.

Snake lighting up at a cemetery.

Let the song run and watch, it get's better.

The you get the treat of some PMC ads in HD.

post #297 of 491
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Originally Posted by Cynn View Post

I don't mind the cut scenes so far. I'm having a great time! But to call this or any other game "perfect" is just stupid. MGS2 got tons of perfect 10 scores but most people seem to hate that game.

"Most people" are wrong. They hated the game because it didn't meet their own preconceived conceptions of what the game would be. They wanted a "safe" sequel like 99.99% of sequels released.

MGS2 is one of the best games I have ever played. It's an easy 10/10.
post #298 of 491
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

Let the song run and watch, it get's better.

The you get the treat of some PMC ads in HD.


yea that was a nice touch - as well as the loading screen comments - good stuff!


def a great game - played 9hrs or so , loving it , great sound/graphics, control is good once you get it down - so many options it is a little overwhelming, great gadgets though! and customizing the guns is some of the best around! octo cammo FTW! great stuff.
post #299 of 491
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Originally Posted by William Mapstone View Post

Its funny that people are complaining about reviewers giving out 10's for games, when this reviewer wanted to give MGS4 an 11! LOL....

See...this is what happens when 10's get given out based on IGN's scale. I mean, if you just give a game 5 stars, saying it's awesome, that's ok, but IGN like to dilfferentiate games down to 1/10 of a point. I think what they are implying by saying all that is, "Ok, so we just gave a 10 out like 2 weeks ago for GTA IV, and this game is better than GTA IV, so maybe GTA IV should've really been a 9.8", or something to that effect.

The part I don't understand is how Gametrailers gives MGS a score on story of 8.7 (or something to that effect), and both Halo 3 and Gears get a higher score in "story". You've got to be kidding me.....just shows that something big games get high scores just because they are big. Halo's story is so weak when compared to the depth of MGS stories, it's just silly. It points out that a lot of these high scores should really be lower. I think giving Halo 3 a solid 9.0 would be good, instead of like a 9.8. The closer to a 10 you get under this system, the game should be "perfect", in ALL aspects. It has to be fun, look good, have an excellent story, etc. I guess, it just the way reviews are given out. When these review sites like to break their score down in to components such as story, graphics, presentation, sound, etc., they are saying every game should have these virtues, when in order to be a good game, they don't really need all the aspects. Just like you can have an amazing movie which is an action flick, and a great movie which is a drama, and you can appreciate both for their own qualities, but both needn't have the same merits in order to be good movies.
post #300 of 491
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Originally Posted by Cynn View Post

Since "10" means total perfection, I'd imagine no games are 10's. Not in my book anyway. Nothing is perfect, especially not Metal Gear.

The point in my question being, if no games are a 10 because no games are perfect, then he has effectively introduced a strawman.

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Originally Posted by kidgenius View Post

The part I don't understand is how Gametrailers gives MGS a score on story of 8.7 (or something to that effect), and both Halo 3 and Gears get a higher score in "story".

I know, it's quite laughable. That's why there is no review site/publication (IMO) that has any more credibility than another.

Brandon
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