A fun quiz: what level is Yamaha 663?

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What level ?? There are no levels in AVRs except levels of your settings.

Waiting on the fun to start.

See the sticky at the top of the forum re: 5.1./7.1 and future proof receivers for the definition of levels.

Levels of Receivers:

Level 1
5.1 receivers that provide SPDIF, 5.1 analog input channels and provide all three processing stages on digital sources.

Examples: Virtually all 5.1 receivers.

Level 2
7.1 receivers that provide SPDIF, 5.1 analog inputs, and provide all three processing stages on digital sources.

Level 3
7.1 receivers that provide SPDIF, 5.1 analog inputs, and 5.1 HDMI PCM but can't perform surround processing on PCM digital sources.

Examples: Panasonic XR57 (no processing at all).

Level 3.5 (added late in the game)
7.1 receivers that provide SPDIF, 7.1 analog inputs, and 5.1 HDMI PCM but can't perform surround processing on PCM digital sources.

Examples: Onkyo x04 series.

Level 4
7.1 receivers that provide SPDIF, 5.1/7.1 analog inputs, and 7.1 HDMI PCM but can't perform surround processing on PCM digital sources.

Examples: Panasonic XR700 (no processing at all). Onkyo 605. Sony STR-DG810 and higher.

Level 5
7.1 recievers that provide SPDIF, 5.1/7.1 analog inputs, 5.1 HDMI PCM, and allow all three processing types on all digital signals.

Examples: HK 645 and higher. Marantz SR6001 and higher (only with latest firmware?).

Level 6
7.1 receivers that provide SPDIF, 5.1/7.1 analog inputs, 7.1 HDMI PCM, and allow all three processing types on all digital signals.

Examples: All HDMI Denons. Yamaha RX-V661/HTR-6060 and higher. Pioneer Elite 81TXV and higher. Onkyo 705 and higher. Integra *.8 series.

The RX-V663 is a level 4(As it is defined) because it can do everything in 4 but it can not "allow all three processing types on ALL digital signals". It can't do the processing on True-HD or DTS-MA which is a requirement for 5 and 6.

The funny thing is that the older RX-V661 is technically a level 6 because it could do the processing on PCM and it could NOT take DD TrueHD or DTS-MA as an input. Therefore, because it lacked HDMI 1.3 it was actually rated as a level 6 instead of a level 4. If it had HDMI 1.3 then it would have been a level 4 as well.

Those labels were made before receivers with decoders came out, and are no longer as useful as they were.

If the 663 can apply it's DPLIIx processing to HDMI/MPCM then it's a level 5 or 6 in spirit.

There does need to be a Level 7 added it seems.....

Just when I thought things couldn't get anymore complicated.

For the upcoming, new Pios and HKs, yes...

If it fits your needs and budget it's a 10, if not it's 0

Best level description yet.

It's level 6. The older version was, the newer version is. The addition of onboard decoding doesn't toss it backwards on the scale, as the scale was setup prior to onboard decoding -- as already mentioned. I suppose level 7 would be the ability to both decode AND process everything. The 663 can't do both, it's either one or the other (process PCM or decode bitstream).

I honestly don't see why it even matters. It is either what you're looking for, or it isn't.

{[24/3]x(20)}-156(+2) = X

hahah..

it's a 10

Nice reason to bring back a 6 month old thread that was useless to start with.

Talk about a blast from the past...

Why did you dig this thread up?

holy moly, must be wanting this stat for mental reasons