The Official AVS 'Mobile DTV' (M-DTV) Topic! - Page 15

Wow, for a moment there I had a flashback to FLO TV!

Okay, that has passed now. Since I do live in the Minneapolis-Saint Paul DMA, I would sure like to score one of the free Elgato MyDTV dongles.

I think it will also be interesting to see which, if any, of the devices capable of Mobile DTV (ATSC-M/H), will also be able to tune in regular ATSC. At this point, there is not a great need in many areas for NTSC, but I suspect that there are still a fair number of low power translator stations on NTSC. I can't recall at the moment if they, too, now have a deadline to switch, or if they can remain as is for an indefinite period of time.

Analog (NTSC) deadline is Sep, 2015.

http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/products/EyeTV-Mobile.html]EyeTV Mobile - Mobile TV Tuner for the Dock Connector]

According to the above article, the Elgato EyeTV Mobile TV tuner device is now available for $99.95. I look forward to reading reviews on this device and this service.

The EyeTV Mobile TV tuner device works together with the free EyeTV Mobile app.



Highlights
Watch live TV on your iPad & iPhone on-the-go
Access major network TV with Dyle™ mobile TV coverage (see coverage map below for availability in your area)

No internet connection required: EyeTV Mobile doesn’t touch your data plan
Powerful, compact TV tuner connects easily to the dock connector port
Works with Apple’s Lightning to 30-pin adapter (sold separately)
Features a miniature telescopic antenna for convenient portability
Alternative rod antenna included for enhanced reception at home or the office

Only $99.95

Real live TV. Without internet.
Watch live TV on your iPad and iPhone with EyeTV Mobile. Since the tuner technology uses special TV airwaves and is not streaming, you won’t need an internet connection, 3G/4G or a Wi-Fi hotspot to watch TV. EyeTV Mobile never touches your data plan, so you can enjoy real live TV in brilliant quality without waiting for any data to load.

The compact TV tuner connects directly to the iPad or iPhone, receives the TV signal via the supplied miniature telescopic antenna and works with the free EyeTV Mobile app (available on the App Store).
It couldn’t be simpler.
Just visit the App Store, download the free EyeTV Mobile app to your iPad or iPhone, and connect the compact EyeTV Mobile TV tuner. Launch the app, choose a channel, and start enjoying live TV right away.

Superior reception.
EyeTV Mobile is the only TV tuner of its kind to offer flexible antenna options. Position the telescopic antenna for great reception on the go, or connect the rod antenna in areas with poor reception – you decide. The proven MCX connector always ensures optimal signal transmission and prevents damage to the TV tuner or iPad or iPhone.

Take a break.
Distractions? No problem. Pause and resume live TV on your iPad or iPhone with EyeTV Mobile.

Convenient TV functions – no second screen required.
EyeTV Mobile brings convenient functions to your iPad and iPhone. You can email or tweet recommendations directly from the electronic program guide or even surf the Internet, all while still watching your favorite show. EyeTV Mobile turns your iPad or iPhone into a portable TV with a social twist.

System Requirements
iPod touch (4th generation), iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPad, iPad 2 or iPad (3rd generation) with iOS 5.1 or later
iPod touch (5th generation), iPhone 5, iPad (4th generation) and iPad mini require optional Lightning to 30-pin adapter (sold separately)
Dyle™ mobile TV coverage (check Coverage Map » Dyle.tv or map below for availability in your area)
Important:

The EyeTV Mobile app can display electronic program guide information transmitted in the digital TV stream. The availability and amount of program information varies depending on the channel.
EyeTV Mobile lets you enjoy up to 9 hours of live TV on your fully-charged iPad and over 4 hours on your iPhone (30% brightness, flight-mode enabled).


Technical Specifications
Antenna input: MCX
Dimensions: 1.2 × 1.6 × 0.4 in
Weight: 0.5 oz
Standard: ATSC-M/H

^^^^^ nice idea but you're limited on the number of stations available in your area. For my area, only 5 stations are available. 2 I'd watch and the other 3 I have no desire to. Hopefully more stations of interest will be added later on.

They did update the Dyle website, too.

http://www.dyle.tv/devices/elgato-eyetv-mobile-tv-tuner/

Still only 5 stations for the two zip codes in my area. Fox, an Independent, NBC, Qubo, and Telemundo.

As I posted earlier, I really think it would have been nice to have the device be capable of BOTH ATSC AND ATSC-M/H. Perhaps the Belkin Dyle Mobile TV will have both!

We'll see. Mobile TV, for me, is not a big deal. It's bad enough that people walk around and into things talking on their phones, but now they can watch tv? Meh!

They could already walk around watching TV on their phones, but now they can do it without eating up data off the data plan. Or that's the theory, anyway.

- Trip

Very true. Something for everyone I suppose.

My two units arrived...hope to play a bit this afternoon before being busy for the next 2 weeks..of course, since the NFL-FOX does not allow us to carry any NFL games on MH..I'll have to look at the other guys in town to start with..

I look forward to your review. I am holding out for an Android version, but we will see if it happens.

Ok.. I connected up with my iphone 4s running ios 5.1.1 just fine..setup; registration and initial scan was quick and easy and found all 8 local streams with these results:

3-1 WBTV CBS (No Audio,No EPG, CC OK)
9-1 WSOC ABC (Audio OK, EPG & CC OK)
18-10 WCCB FOX (No EPG, No Pgm at this time, NFL rights block)
18-11 WCCB WX (No EPG, Audio Ok)
36-1 WCNC NBC (No Audio,No EPG, CC OK)
46-1 WJZY CW (Audio Ok, No EPG No CC)
64-1 WAXN IND (Audio Ok, EPG & CC OK)
64-3 WAXN WX (No EPG, No Audio Provided with service)

Note that this is one of the first units released and obviously some work is needed, which is not completely unexpected.

Audio and video on all channels (when present) is very good.
With my iphone case on, the dongle easily disconnects and is unreliable, so the case has to come off. Even then any slight bump causes a disconnect. This often would hang the app and give me a "The connected USB device is not supported". Also "EyeTv Mobile would like to communicate with the Elgato EveTV Mobile" (Allow / Ignore) pop up occurs fairly often.
The app will allow L-R swipe between channels. This promptly hangs the app. Don't do that.
Indoor here at home..Reception on the closest stations using the small telescopic antenna, WCCB, WSOC, and WAXN all @ 7miles was fairly solid. The others @ +30 miles often produced "No Content" errors when the signal dropped out.
Overall, having played with it so far..I don't think the typical Apple user will tolerate the current performance on their iphone-ipad. For me personally, an easily disconnected dongle hanging off the side with a pull up antenna is a real negative. I very much prefer my Monsoon Multimedia Vulkano app that works anywhere.

That's all for now.. time to pack for the next 2 weeks which are far more pressing with very little play time in an area without MH. I'll ride down the interstate tomorrow am and see how well it does for how far.

Bob,

Thank you very much for the quick reply. I anticipated that the connector would be problematic. To make matters worse, some people will have to use an adapter to go from original to Thunderbolt connector. Maybe a standalone portable TV that does NTSC, regular ATSC, and Dyle will come along. As of right now, it is a little bit hard to be optimistic, however. (Of course, the need for NTSC is decreasing as time goes on.)

As a side note, I tried the Monsoon Vulkano and I think they have some great devices. I ended up going with both a Sliing Adapter AND a SlingBox PRO-HD. Yes, I know that it is overkill, but I have the ability to get TV1 content via the PRO-HD and TV2 content via the Sling Adapter. I do also like the integrated ATSC tuner in the PRO-HD.

Jim

I caught the tail end of the first Dyle TV commercial I've seen this morning while getting ready to leave for work. It was a locally inserted spot on KSDK about a half hour into the Today show. Unfortunately, it was on a set that didn't have a DVR and I wasn't paying much attention to the TV at the moment, so I didn't catch the details until the last two r three seconds of the short spot.

I set DVR to record the rest of the Today show when I left. I'll scan it this evening and see if they broadcast it again and i can catch a video of it.

Cheers!

I saw the Dyle Mobile TV Service commercial earlier today on KARE-11.

http://allthingsd.com/20121217/giving-mobile-tv-another-go-with-dyle/?mo

Sad to say that I agree with them.

www.businesswire.com/news/home/20121219005903/en]ESCORT and Dyle Mobile TV Bring Live Television to iOS Devices | Business Wire

www.escortradar.com/escort-mobiletv/]ESCORT MobileTV - Escort Inc.

www.amazon.com/Escort-Mobile-Digital-Black-iPhone/dp/B00AGV7T6Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356191619&sr=8-1&keywords=escort+mobile]Amazon.com: Escort Mobile Digital TV (Black) for iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch: Car Electronics[


ESCORT MobileTV Receiver

Looking for a new and exciting way to watch top sports, news and entertainment programming live and on-the-go? ESCORT MobileTV™ uses the latest technology to receive major network programming so you can enjoy your favorite shows on-the-go. Simply plug the miniature ESCORT MobileTV™ receiver into your iPhone, iPad or iPod touch. Download the free iDTV USA app with Dyle™ mobile TV from the Apple App Store. Once you open the app, it app will connect with the receiver and you’ll be watching TV. It’s really that simple. And because the ESCORT MobileTV™ receiver doesn’t use WiFi or 3G to access live TV, you won’t tap into your data plan! Other state-of-the-art performance and features include a built-in rechargeable battery, 10-minute pause and resume functionality and automatic channel scanning.

Long story short, the HDHomeRun driver runs with the access level of whatever program is using it. Most software firewalls won't block outbound connections, so telling the HDHomeRun to tune a specific channel works, but the video stream is an inbound connection from the HDHomeRun, which does get blocked. Adding the exception allows the program to receive the stream.

RCA Introduces 8-Inch Dual-Tuner Mobile DTV Tablet.

http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/rca-introduces--inch-dual-tuner-mobile-dtv-tablet-/217073

Ron

Ron,

Thanks for the tip. I also see that the have intentions to offer an Android app, too!

Jim





http://www.dyle.tv/news/escort-announces-intention-to-develop-dyle-mobile-tv-compatible-receiver-for-android-os/

Sounds nice! and for what it does the $299 retail doesn't seem too bad.
Jim, is Dyle currently broadcasting on KARE? I see you saw a commercial on KARE a month back, wonder if they are active and if any other stations in MSP broadcast Dyle?

I think KARE-11 is up, but I have no way to tune that right now. According to Rabbit Ears, it is up.

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=atscmph


Minneapolis, Minnesota
KSTP-TV (5-1) 35 7.34 Mbps 10/20/2012
• 02-1 PBS KTCA-TV 2-1 "TPT 2"
• 05-1 ABC KSTP-TV 5-1 "5 Eyewitness News"
• 05-54 ABC KSTP-TV 5-3 "5 Eyewitness News"
• 05-56 ABC KSTP-TV 5-4 "5 Eyewitness News"
KMSP-TV (9-1) 9 1.83 Mbps 10/20/2012
• 09-1 FOX KMSP FOX "Fox 9 KMSP"
KARE (11-1) 11 1.83 Mbps 10/20/2012
• 11-1 NBC KARE Mobile "KARE 11"
WFTC (29-1) 29 -

http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phone-and-smart/escort-mobiletv/4505-6448_7-35599826.html

I just ran across the CNET review of the Escort MobileTV. I can't say I am very impressed after reading the review.

Exclusive: FCC OKs Test of New TV Transmission Standard

Station owner says it has support from other broadcasters, vendors, standards bodies

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable

2/19/2013 2:41:26 PM

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/491923-Exclusive_FCC_OKs_Test_of_New_TV_Transmission_Standard.php
.....

WNUV will conduct its test mostly in overnight hours (1 a.m. to 5 a.m.). Between those hours, it will replace its ATSC signal with the test OFDM DVB-T2 signal, receivable by only a handful of devices. ...

[see link for full article]

It will be most interesting to see how this works for mobile. Nice to see that Sinclair still wants to be an actual broadcaster.

It's not for Mobile. DVB-T2 is for stationary. Anyone saying otherwise is a liar. It just can carry lot more data than ATSC or DVB-T.

More details here (including links to the FCC application):

http://www.tvtechnology.com/distribution/0099/details-on-wnuvs-experimental-license-to-test-ofdm/217889

Ron

An excerpt: The FCC released the experimental authorization application from WNUV on Wednesday. It contains much more detail on the planned experiments. While the FCC’s letter only mentions DVB-T2, the application says WNUV anticipates that after testing DVB-T2, it will progress to testing DVB-Lite, DVB-NGH, and a "non-standard variant derived from experimental outputs."

The Lite option does appear intended to address mobile issues. But, if I understand it correctly, a Lite mobile service would reduce the bandwidth available for other services such as HDTV for stationary reception. Much like ATSC's current scheme.

One of my local broadcaster is KSTP and they are promoting Mobile DTV. In fact, they were advertising for a free drawing for the device and I was one of the winners!

Learn More About MyDTV! | KSTP TV - Minneapolis and St. Paul

You have been chosen to be a Mobile DTV antenna tester.
View this email in your browser
Congratulations
You have been invited to a MyDTV event!
You are receiving this e-mail because you signed up at KSTP.com to become a Mobile TV antenna tester.

TO QUALIFY:

You must be 18-years or older
You must reside in the Minneapolis/St. Paul Metro area
You must have a qualifying device (see device requirements)
You must be willing to come to the KSTP-TV Studios (located at 3415 University Ave., St. Paul, MN 55114) this Thursday during either of the following time slots to have your antenna set up for service:

Thursday, February 28
9am-1pm
5pm-7pm

When you arrive at the KSTP-TV Studios, please park in the back of the building and enter through the Twin Cities Live Audience Entrance.

DEVICE REQUIREMENTS:

iPod touch (4th & 5th generation), iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad, iPad 2 or iPad (3rd & 4th generation), and iPad mini with iOS 5.1 or later

Please note that iPod touch (5th generation), iPhone 5, iPad (4th generation) and iPad mini require a Lightning adapter (sold separately)

WHAT TO EXPECT:

The setup process should take 10-15 minutes to complete. However, be prepared for a possible wait time, depending on how many people attend the event at any given time.

In preparation for receiving your Mobile DTV antenna, please download the MyDTV app to your device by clicking here. Downloading the app prior to attending the event will help speed up the setup process.

MyDTV app

Please RSVP to mobiletv@kstp.com to let us know which time slot you will be attending.


Once the antenna is installed, we will periodically send you surveys to gather information about your experience with the device.

Thank You for your interest in MyDTV!

- KSTP-TV and KSTC-TV 45

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