Originally Posted by Vincehoffman
I'm correcting you 'cuz your wrong! The drivers used in the Niles speakers, both mid-bass and tweeters are different, made of different materials with differing nominal sizes, and the Niles speakers use a proprietary integrated baffle and basket that they've patented. The enclosures are of significantly differing dimensions and exact shape as are the grill treatments. About the only real similarity is the mounting bracket's basic shape and that both are offered in black and white!
I've no idea who Niles actually has manufacturing their proprietary
outdoor speaker design, but the BSI speaker's you've directed people reading this thread to, are no more similar to the Niles speakers I specifically recommended after buying and enjoying them, than any number of other surface mount outdoor speakers. Plastic enclosures and the same colour palette does not make the BSI speakers you linked to Niles OEMs or even knock-offs. Finally- As to your shot about "Chinese made...", Are any outdoor speakers from any manufacturer, higher-end or not, made anywhere but China today?
Well that may be the case now, but I do know specifically that some of the older Niles speakers were identical to the Audiotraks. I'd have to have one of each of the current models side by side and pulled apart to comment further. I hear the words 'proprietary' and 'patented' too many times to give any credit to anyone quoting them (not that I'm saying you're lying, I'm just saying in general
) to believe it carte blanche.
All I can tell you is that I've used probably 100s of Audiotrak speakers in commercial installations, both in the 8 ohm and 70 volt versions, and they work and sound fine.
As for the 'Chinese' speakers, I have no beef with them generally. However... companies like Dynaudio make their own drivers, I do not believe that Niles does. I don't know much about Niles overall, but if anyone wants to send me a set, I have a pair of BSI 800s here..