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post #61 of 160
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Thanks for the all the info. everyone, likely wouldn't have found the A8s without this thread. Just ordered a pair and will report back when they're up.

OH! The pressure is on me now
post #62 of 160
Hey, well, at least you actually compared something in similar price categories. That's more than what most reviewers do. Though i'm surprised that you named the losers this time
post #63 of 160
from what he said, my take is that there are no real losers there, just some more appropriate winners.
post #64 of 160
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OH! The pressure is on me now

Yes it is. My purchase and happiness with it is entirely your responsibility. Everything else is, of course, my wife's fault.
post #65 of 160
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Yes it is. My purchase and happiness with it is entirely your responsibility. Everything else is, of course, my wife's fault.

QFT FTW!
post #66 of 160
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from what he said, my take is that there are no real losers there, just some more appropriate winners.

"No, Patriots, you didn't lose, it's just that, well, the Giants more appropriately won"
post #67 of 160
that is not what i meant. he did not really slam any of the other speakers. when i think of "losers" in a shootout, i think of things that are so totally outclassed, they should not have bothered showing up.
post #68 of 160
ColdMachine,

How did you install the speakers (horizontal or vertical)? How was the dispersion of sound? I am looking for outdoor speakers and these look like they would work out well.

Thanks
post #69 of 160
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that is not what i meant. he did not really slam any of the other speakers. when i think of "losers" in a shootout, i think of things that are so totally outclassed, they should not have bothered showing up.

I realize that, but the speakers that didn't win are kinda the losers, even they only lost by a bit. I was getting back to the PJ shootout where the CX1080 was somewhat better than some completely unknown, but popular PJ, the name being hidden to prevent rioting and looting. As you noticed, no one has been rioting or looting because one speaker was chosen as better performing than the others.
post #70 of 160
I've been looting. I can't believe no one noticed.
post #71 of 160
Sure, but have you been pillaging or plundering? I didn't think so!
post #72 of 160
I'm more of a social pillager. I plundered once -- didn't care for it.
post #73 of 160
They sound good! Clean, transparent, and about as much bass as I can reasonably expect in a 'room' w/infinite sq. footage. They can go pretty loud too w/o strain.

One thing though: the plastic cabinet has a thin skin (very un-armadillo like) that scuffs off easily. My pair came w/a few such marks on them and I may return for replacement.
post #74 of 160
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They sound good! Clean, transparent, and about as much bass as I can reasonably expect in a 'room' w/infinite sq. footage. They can go pretty loud too w/o strain.

One thing though: the plastic cabinet has a thin skin (very un-armadillo like) that scuffs off easily. My pair came w/a few such marks on them and I may return for replacement.

Glad you like them.

I assume you you are purely talking cosmetic?.Powder coating or whatever. The construction is solid.
post #75 of 160
I am talking cosmetic -- over the thick plastic shell is a thin coating that scuffs and peels easily. I'm concerned about the long term durability from an appearance standpoint.
post #76 of 160
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I am talking cosmetic -- over the thick plastic shell is a thin coating that scuffs and peels easily. I'm concerned about the long term durability from an appearance standpoint.

Im pretty sure mine had no such skin, but would need to check.

Are you sure its not a protective plastic coat thats meant to be removed, Ive seen that on many items.
post #77 of 160
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Are you sure its not a protective plastic coat thats meant to be removed, Ive seen that on many items.

It's not that.
post #78 of 160
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I'd get them swapped then.
post #79 of 160
Yep, that's what I"m going to have to do. PITA.
post #80 of 160
You guys have me convinced to get the A8's as well for my new listening area. I'm putting in a Sonos system and was researching outdoor speakers. It's so nice to be able to access the knowledge of this forum. Thanks!
post #81 of 160
I use a Squeezebox Duet controller, but as you'll find w/the Sonos, it's pretty cool to be able to access your whole library while you're outdoors.
post #82 of 160
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You guys have me convinced to get the A8's as well for my new listening area. I'm putting in a Sonos system and was researching outdoor speakers. It's so nice to be able to access the knowledge of this forum. Thanks!

You should love the Sonos, its a really cool product. I needed something to tide me over to my install was finished. I tried the SB Duet and the Sonos, the SB didnt last a day with me. I found, and still find, the Sonos to be outstanding.
post #83 of 160
Sonos is great because it makes accessing your music incredibly convenient, they've absolutely nailed the user interface, and you can use the ZP-80's with a separate amplifier and get darn good sound. Hard drive space is so inexpensive these days, there's no reason to compress your music. Rip your CD's to your hard drive or Network Attached Storage uncompressed and you will also get better sound quality. In zones where you want even better sound quality, you can take a digital out from the ZP-80 and use an outboard DAC. The interface is so well thought out that my wife, who is is an absolute technophobe, enjoys using it. Took her about 20 seconds to learn her way around it -- that is the ultimate test for the user interface and Sonos passes it with flying colors.
post #84 of 160
One of the cool things about Sonos, not to go too far off track, is that it is also a darned good ethernet repeater. Plug any BD, HD-DVD, satellite, PS3, even ethernet video cam, into a Sonos and it will link to the internet. You can even use two Sonos Bridges as just an ethernet extender and switch without having Sonos as your music system. We use this feature all the time. We are supposedly one of the top ten or twenty installers in the country, at least, that's what they tell us, so we have succeeded in getting and still are pushing for a LOT of new software refinements and new and more varied hardware. Sonos hasn't even begun to get cool yet. They finally got some more people to work on cooler hardware and we got to have a lot of input on that process.
post #85 of 160
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Originally Posted by Alimentall View Post

One of the cool things about Sonos, not to go too far off track, is that it is also a darned good ethernet repeater. Plug any BD, HD-DVD, satellite, PS3, even ethernet video cam, into a Sonos and it will link to the internet. You can even use two Sonos Bridges as just an ethernet extender and switch without having Sonos as your music system. We use this feature all the time. We are supposedly one of the top ten or twenty installers in the country, at least, that's what they tell us, so we've been have succeeded in getting and still are pushing for a LOT of new software refinements and new and more varied hardware. Sonos hasn't even begun to get cool yet. They finally got some more people to work on cooler hardware and we got to have a lot of input on that process.

The only thing that REALLY annoys me is the favorites list for internet radio. It needs to have the facility for user folders. I use a couple of subscription services, so have a long list that needs managing. If you've got leverage, then give them a slap because its such an obvious feature. They actually do it with their own preloaded genre folders. I'd love to see a new controller. I also cant see video not being in their future.

Other than that, I have to say it is truly outstanding, especially at the price. I'd love to see a new controller. I also cant see video not being in their future.

Whoever is responsible for the UI and functionality deserves a medal. It is an absolute triumph of design.
post #86 of 160
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The only thing that REALLY annoys me is the favorites list for internet radio. It needs to have the facility for user folders. I use a couple of subscription services, so have a long list that needs managing. If you've got leverage, then give them a slap because its such an obvious feature. They actually do it with their own preloaded genre folders. I'd love to see a new controller. I also cant see video not being in their future.

Video is in their future. Good idea about user radio folders, I'll pass that on! Just for radio stations or for the music library management? I've pushed very hard for a Sonos Music Manager software, but they're really against that one as the feel that's better done by iTunes or Media Monkey or one of those. So, it's hard to imagine how they'd do user 'folders' for the music library. You can make your own, however, and see them in the 'folders' section at the bottom of the Music Library.
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Other than that, I have to say it is truly outstanding, especially at the price. I'd love to see a new controller. I also cant see video not being in their future.

Video is in their future. It's like a B3 stealth bomber project though
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Whoever is responsible for the UI and functionality deserves a medal. It is an absolute triumph of design.

Apple!
post #87 of 160
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Good idea about user radio folders, I'll pass that on! Just for radio stations or for the music library management?

Radio stations only. I agree with their views on managing the music library.

Does your "Apple" comment mean they subbed it out or used ex Apple dudes or did I misunderstand. The aesthetics of the whole thing is suggestive of Apple.
post #88 of 160
The issue for me is that all of my music is ripped as FLAC and itunes does not support FLAC (I have never understood why?) so I am not sure I got integrate Sonos easily. Unless I am incorrect?
post #89 of 160
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The issue for me is that all of my music is ripped as FLAC and itunes does not support FLAC (I have never understood why?) so I am not sure I got integrate Sonos easily. Unless I am incorrect?

You dont need itunes at all, it just that some people use their itunes folder as their library folder.

Just point Sonos to your FLAC folder, its that simple.
post #90 of 160
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Does your "Apple" comment mean they subbed it out or used ex Apple dudes or did I misunderstand. The aesthetics of the whole thing is suggestive of Apple.

They just kinda borrowed the iPod interface.
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