Originally Posted by Brian1313
Personally, I'm getting tired of these blanket statements that basically boil down to "If my set sucks, then every one of them sucks"
This was not limited to just my set... I noticed it at Circuit City and Best Buy but figured it was either A) bad factory settings, B) the crappy in store signal, C) the unrealistic lighting or D) the viewing angle of the display. However after I got the TV home I noticed the same issues despite trying the countless settings posted here. These settings helped alot, but in the end I still was not happy with what I was seeing, especially when compared to my other set (I had the two hooked up side-by-side with the same signal for direct comparision). I watched the TV under a variety of lighting conditions and with a variety of program material from a range of sources including my Playstation 3 and an OTA antenna. There is just something about the "look" of the DLPs that doesn't sit well with me.
Originally Posted by cadiman26
Wobulation is the way that DLP cuts costs - and when they tried doing that they came up with an interesting benefit. It eliminates the screen door effect by slighty overlapping the pixels.. Is this a bad thing?? I think not, on the contrary.. It produces a smoothing effect that you will not even really notice from your normal seating position.. DLP's produce colors and images by dithering the image (fast on off switching of the mirrors). Yes, if you get up REALLY close to the screen you can see this, just as if you get REALLY close to any other display you can see screen door effects.
Dithering is exactly what I saw! While you might not see it directly I could see the effect it had on the image even 12 feet away on the 67" model. With moving images its not noticeable, but on a static object (like lines, logos, text or any graphics) it was apparent to me. And once I pointed it out to my wife and guests they noticed it as well. There seems to be a fuzzy or hazy fringe on objects that should have a clean, hard edge. I guess similar to the rainbow issue this "dithering" may or may not be noticeable to any given individual, however for me (personally) it was a deal breaker.
Originally Posted by Captain Spaulding
I returned the Samsung and went with the Sony KDL-52W4100 LCD. It's 52" screen is smaller than what I wanted, but to my eyes, I prefer the Sony's picture. There are no geometry problems, color and clarity are great. I think the Sony does a much better job with standard definition programming. Also, the Sony is definitely more solidly built. The bendable screen of the Samsung DLP did little to instill confidence in my purchase. Both the Samsung DLP and the Sony have very well-defined, sharp pictures, but each also has its own "look". It's hard to describe the difference. You would just have to compare for yourself. Of course most of what I've written here is very subjective. I'm just giving my opinion.
I am in the same boat as the Captain here (pun intended). These Sammy DLPs have a certain "look", each person has to decided for themselves if this "look" is right for them. I just wanted others to know what I saw, if they don't see this "problem" then by all means buy the TV - you can't beat the dollar-to-size value and the colors are excellent, for example my wife LOVED the colors especially the red shine in American gymnastics uniforms. However I was not willing to compromise thus I'm sticking with my older set's LCD technology.
This is the nice thing about the return policy of most retailers (even online ones like Crutchfield) you can test drive the various technology and see which one YOU like. In closing I've got to say the advice and feedback on this forum is excellent, I would have never considering an HSU subwoofer or a Panasonic A/V reciever without the info gathered from the various AVS gurus! Even though I returned this particular TV I have gained considerable knowledge on the subject thus I'm a more informed consumer. Thanks to everyone who posted.