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post #2341 of 15633
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Originally Posted by BATman94 View Post

P.S. For those that replied to my previous post, I went out and got the PS3 (HDMI cable, 10 ft. for $10, at NewEgg on order, and PS3 Blu-Ray remote on order at Walmart). My primary use will be for Blu-Ray and up-convert DVD as well as basic web surf and media stream from my main PC to the PS3 (gaming way down on the list for now). So far, I've had the PS3 hooked up with just composite jacks on an entry-level LCD, so I am dying to see what HDMI on the Sammy will look like.

FYI... Just my .02...

I have my PS3 hooked up and the broswer absolutely sucks for general web surfing. Even with a bluetooth keyboard & mouse it sucks enough that I won't use it anymore.

Interface is terrible & there is crap for plug-in support. Java & Flash support are non-existent.

If you want to surf on the TV and be able to do anything useful, at the very least you will need a BT keyboard & mouse, but you are better off getting laptop (or cheap desktop) to connect to the VGA input and use that.
post #2342 of 15633
Help me with XBOX 360 connection

I picked up my 67A750 from BestBuy on Friday (much like Halyconjedi, got them to match CC's price and 3 year 0% interest).
I replaced a Sammy 720P DLP model 6163W. I connected all my components similarly to how they had been on the old set:
Dish Network HD-DVR - HDMI 1
PS3 - HDMI 2 (DVI on old set which only had 1 HDMI port)
XBOX 360 - VGA port
Wii - Component 1
DVD recorder - Component 2

When I tested the 360, I got an onscreen message "Mode not supported".
I moved the 360 to the HDMI3/DVi port and it worked fine. i didn't see any seettings in the Xbox 360 itself that might resolve the issue. I tried lowering the resolution, but it had no effect.
now, using the 360's HDMI port, requires removing the VGA cable from it, which removes the attached optical audio port. (I have all my components running audio directly to my Pioneer THX receiver). I moved the optical out to the Sammy TV, but I understand that this only supplies 2.1 audio the the receiver. The other option would be to get a component cable for the 360 with optical audio out, (taking out the DVD recorder or moving it to a different port).

so, my questions are:
Has anyone had success running this set with an XBOX 360 via VGa port? and if so, how?
Will the component connection support 1080P HD-DVD's through my 360?
(Samsung live support says yes, but i want that conformed by the REAL experts here).
post #2343 of 15633
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Originally Posted by Dr_Romulus View Post

FYI... Just my .02...

I have my PS3 hooked up and the broswer absolutely sucks for general web surfing. Even with a bluetooth keyboard & mouse it sucks enough that I won't use it anymore.

Interface is terrible & there is crap for plug-in support. Java & Flash support are non-existent.

If you want to surf on the TV and be able to do anything useful, at the very least you will need a BT keyboard & mouse, but you are better off getting laptop (or cheap desktop) to connect to the VGA input and use that.

Thanks for the info. I already have an secondary/older PIII PC vga connected to a 32'' LCD TV in the family room (separate from our entertainment room where the Sammy is going). Kids play CD-ROM games on it and I do basic surf and some video streaming. While non-flash full screen streaming works fine (e.g. CNN International), Flash full screen is very blocky/slow. I believe it's b/c it's a PIII 500 Ghz with Win ME.

I've already done some test surfing with the PS3, and you are right--it's not the same as a PC (almost like the old WebTV). However, for my purposes (e.g. check the weather sites/news sites and some Flash) it should be fine. The PS3 I just bought does play Flash, and "Java enabled" is listed on the box. I viewed a few YouTube clips on it already. It's quirky about how it plays, but it plays the clips. If I win the lottery, I would definitely get a dedicated PC for the Sammy.
post #2344 of 15633
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Originally Posted by zer0cool2007 View Post

Help me with XBOX 360 connection

I picked up my 67A750 from BestBuy on Friday (much like Halyconjedi, got them to match CC's price and 3 year 0% interest).
I replaced a Sammy 720P DLP model 6163W. I connected all my components similarly to how they had been on the old set:
Dish Network HD-DVR - HDMI 1
PS3 - HDMI 2 (DVI on old set which only had 1 HDMI port)
XBOX 360 - VGA port
Wii - Component 1
DVD recorder - Component 2

When I tested the 360, I got an onscreen message "Mode not supported".
I moved the 360 to the HDMI3/DVi port and it worked fine. i didn't see any seettings in the Xbox 360 itself that might resolve the issue. I tried lowering the resolution, but it had no effect.
now, using the 360's HDMI port, requires removing the VGA cable from it, which removes the attached optical audio port. (I have all my components running audio directly to my Pioneer THX receiver). I moved the optical out to the Sammy TV, but I understand that this only supplies 2.1 audio the the receiver. The other option would be to get a component cable for the 360 with optical audio out, (taking out the DVD recorder or moving it to a different port).

so, my questions are:
Has anyone had success running this set with an XBOX 360 via VGa port? and if so, how?
Will the component connection support 1080P HD-DVD's through my 360?
(Samsung live support says yes, but i want that conformed by the REAL experts here).

and what kinda price match did u get?
post #2345 of 15633
Best buy had it for $2499.99
They matched CC's $2099.99 and changed the 2 year 0% financing to 3 years.
(CC had no interest until 2012)
post #2346 of 15633
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Originally Posted by Terminator840 View Post

Thanks for the compliments. The stand has a optional hutch, which I originally wasn't going to use. After assembling it I decided to attach it, for the main purpose of having a place for the center channel speaker. The hutch was made to attach a flat panel to the back of it. So the back support is pretty thick & heavy duty, this prevents my set to fully set back into the hutch. The 61" Samsung is really to big for it. The top where center channel sets came with some crown moldings but I didn't have enough clearance to attach them. Which worked out because the crown molding piece was damaged.

I'll try and take some more pics. at different angles so you can get a better feel for it. Its also a corner unit, but I am not using it as such.

Thanks David....I would be very interested to see more pix as I absolutely have to have my center channel above this TV.
post #2347 of 15633
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Originally Posted by zer0cool2007 View Post

Best buy had it for $2499.99
They matched CC's $2099.99 and changed the 2 year 0% financing to 3 years.
(CC had no interest until 2012)

i got my 67" for $1984 at CC and 3 year 0% financing
post #2348 of 15633
Zero - Ive got my 360 connected via component cable (with the optical audio output), and I also have the HD-DVD drive; and it does display in 1080P
post #2349 of 15633
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Originally Posted by HalcyonJedi View Post

Zero - Ive got my 360 connected via component cable (with the optical audio output), and I also have the HD-DVD drive; and it does display in 1080P

thanks, Jedi. That's the info I was looking for (as opposed to someone saying they got a better price, which really didn't help me at all).


I know the the early posts faq's said some people were recommending VGa for the 360, so hopefully someone out there can tell me how they got it to work.
post #2350 of 15633
Does anyone know where these TV's are manufactured?
Thanks.
post #2351 of 15633
Well...after reading all (and i mean ALL) of the pages in this thread, I'd figure I'd share my story so far. I am awaiting a 61" LED A750 today or tomorrow...but I'm getting ahead of myself...

I'll share my experiences so it may benefit (and amuse) others.

About 3 years ago, I built a Home Theatre Room (cave) in my basement...all for me (bless my wife). It was of course on a budget...It consisted of the following:


A ceiling mounted XGA (1024x768) Benq DLP projector with DVI hooked up to only my PC.



A white painted wall for the screen (real screens are a waste of money), black painted wood border with metal sides. The top and bottom masks are black velvet with magnets on the ends to allow for adjusting for different aspect ratios. The surround sound is 7.1 (from a PC source to an AMP).



This is watching a DVD with the lights on (16x9 normal).



This is with the lights off...



This is the widest aspect ratio...



This is the full image (projector is 4x3) with lights on...






Why am I showing you all this? One, because I wanted to show off a little...

Two, because having a set-up like this was way cool, so why change it???

Because after doing research 1 year ago, i brought my PC into a Best Buy here in town, to hook up to the SAMSUNG 56" LED DLP HLT-5687 TV(the previous generation I think), to check it out for myself, as i knew the store setups were horrible. After getting the settings the way i wanted there in store and testing EVERYTHING I could think of (I am PICKY) I was blown away!

I CHOSE to use this 56" TV over my 110" screen and projector (Having gone through 3 lamps and a colourwheel) because i loved the quality that much!

I wanted to get one, but BB had NONE left in stock anywhere here in Ontario (Canada). So i offered to buy the display model at a reduced price($1800, normal price at that time was $2200) with extended warranty (when they hear warranty they light up don't they?) for $300 (4 years) and a stand (FREE) for a total of $2100 before tax. At that time, an amazing deal!

Before you say DISPLAY MODEL????, understand i am an electronics technician (my workplace repairs TVs) so i know how the business of repair works...so to me the $300
was cheap to have a guaranteed working TV for 4 years. If something was going to mess up, the display model would do it BEFORE 4 years, and I would get a new TV from BB.

The TV was home the next day and worked great (except for the HALO problem that generation had, but not worth bringing in for repair..yet). I have it hooked up to my PC for everything: Games, HD Movies, Over-the-air TV in HD PVR, DVD, and as my full time monitor, etc.... using the HDMI3 input.



Here you can see it in action with my Car Racing.... cabinet???? thing??? in its early phase running NFS Pro Street in 1920x1080 on my PC.




And later i finished more or my Car Racing thing and put in a Logitech G25 Racing wheel with 5 speed shifter and clutch. (I can also use it for flight sims as well)



Heres'a another shot showing the seat i used from a Pontiac Sunfire (from a good condition car in a scrap yard for $25).When i don't use my "CAR", I slide off to the side of the room!



Well, after 1 year of wonderful use...my 56" started going wierd...sometimes it wouldn't turn on and i got the 3 LEDs flashing..or sometimes the picture would black out and the TV would not respond. Unplugging the TV for a while would get it working again, but after doing this a few weeks, it finally would not turn on at all. (Better to had the TV be consistant before calling Samsung).

Since it was before my 1 year of Samsung warranty (I still have to deal with them for the 1st year), they set it up with my workplace to repair the TV. The problem is the LED driver board, which they do not have in stock, and are backordered. This means they might never get the part. I had to wait a least 2 weeks after the part was ordered (3 weeks after i first called), before Samsung would make a decision of what to do. They finally got back to me after almost 4 weeks (and me calling them A LOT!), and said they no longer carry that size TV, which is why my file got stuck in paperwork for so long. I was persistent becasue my SAMSUNG part of the warranty was almost up. If they replaced this unit and something went wrong again, i would have to settle for BB replacing the TV under their warranty with an LCD (they dont carry DLP at all here anymore, only flat panels).

The Samsung rep asked if i would be able to settle for the 61" HL61A750 LED DLP instead..... I said sure, I guess....

I used my projector again (after 1 year of non-use) the 1st week of waiting, and loved it. But DAMN!!! the f'ing colourwheel shattered AGAIN!!!! So for the last 4 weeks ( of almost 5 weeks of no TV now), I've had nothing. No more projector as the cost isn't worth the repair.

So now the TV is on its way and should be here in the next day or two! After almost 5 weeks! And I'm still covered for 3 years at BB!

So over the weekend i had the sad duty of taking down my projector and the screen i built. The wall is fixed up and painted to look normal again.

If the A750 is much better than my 56", then these pics should give some people an idea of what they are looking for....

Thank you all for the great posts here... I went through EVERY page... can't wait for the new TV..i get 5 more inches, yay!!! How many guys can say that!
post #2352 of 15633
OK Guys - I officially have ZERO experience with taking pictures that are worth a crap, LOL but I think I've got it figured out. In the meantime, here are 2 pics from Mass Effect (and yes, I KNOW the damn flash is on...LOL - it's the only way I could get the pics to come out with the clarity I see with my own eyes. But I think I've got the flash issue resolved - more pics to come shortly)

Hopefully this helps.... a little??
LL
LL
post #2353 of 15633
Great story, Thagerty!

Let us know how you think the 750 compares to your older model--

Only thing--You should have gotten the 67"
post #2354 of 15633
Sigh...I'm officially frustrated with taking pictures...LOL Here is a semi-decent one of the Metal Gear 4 intro screen... I can't get a consistently bright, crisp image unless I have the flash on. If anyone has some digital camera expertise to share, I'm all ears

I've got a 7.2MP Sony CyberShot - and I know it's just that I don't know enough about the various settings to get a pic of the TV to come out right...
LL
post #2355 of 15633
nice!! thanks alot HalcyonJedi, the pictures are awesome. no worries about the flash i just wanted an idea of the the brightness and stuff. looks wicked though, the weekend could not come any sooner. cant wait to get my 360 and ps3 hooked up to that beast!!!
post #2356 of 15633
Oh, as for as my settings and experiences with the 56" LED DLP...

If you guys hear any crackling noises from the rear-left of the Tv with it on or off, its just the casing expanding and contracting...totally normal.

I normally only run my PC in 1920x1080 with large fonts and Large icons in Vista and XP. DO NOT use a custom DPI size as it will make your 1080p videos look like 720, don't know why.... I only run in Just Scan, as any other setting scales your image redusing the quality. (If in another resolution you don't have this option).

As far as Overscan goes...its SUPPOSED to have it people...its a TV! Not a monitor. Its very small when using Just Scan (I don't use the PC settings as it still scales the image). For the taskbar, i just enlarge it up, and it works great! As for your Internet....just manualy size the window to your taste.

If you have a game that needs to reduce Overscan then fine...change your settings for just that.


And all PC users using an NVIDIA video card for the last year... make sure you get the newest BETA drivers (177.92). The reason why i say this is because NVIDIA's driver for the last year have had the "Black Level" or "Colour Range" bug. What this means is that ALL of your videos from ANY source would have a washed out look because NVIDIA had the colour range set to limited (16-255), NOT Full (0-255) like it was supposed to. If you had your LED DLP set to Black Level LOW, you might not have noticed this problem, but your colours would still be off, cause you weren't getting the blackest blacks in all videos on your PC (DVD, Blu-ray,x264,xvid). there were other workarounds, but these were a pain in the butt, and didn't work for ALL programs.

How to fix the colour range for NVIDIA users:

Install the newest BETA driver (177.92). Restart CPU.

Run Nvidia Control Panel. Goto: Video & Television, then "Adjust Video Color Settings". Choose "How do you make colour adjustments?". Select "With the NVIDIA Settings". Now click the tab (advanced) and change the Dynamic Range to Full (0-255) if its not already there, (most likely will be at Limited 16-255).

Should look like this:



Congrats...now you have the "Correct" colour range on your video card! Don't change ANY of the other colour settings...they are just fine!! If you have at any point made changes to the players you use for playing movies to correct this problem, you might have to change them back to their default.

For me... to get the best proper looking picture... i did the above setting... installed the K-lite Mega Codec pack (disabling FFDSHOW for x264,h264), and installed CoreAVC (for x264,h264 playback, and PowerDVD 8 (for Blu-ray). The only other program I use is Media Portal, but its not need. I don't have anything else installed as it is not needed. This covers Blu-ray,DVD,Media Center (Vista),x264,xvid,Real,Quicktime,mpeg,ts...etc


The "only" setting i changed for black levels was CoreAVC. Output set to TV 16-255. This is meant to correct x264 (MKV) videos with subtitles as their range is off. Other x264 files won't be affected.

Now that you have done all this, you have the PC the way its supposed to be!

Now you should change/calibrate your TV settings (for PC use), using the above type scenario.

I have DNI off, Noise Reduction off..any setting that manipulates the image...OFF.
Dynamic Contrast: off
Pc settings: off
Black Level: Low
Black level adjust: Off
White Level adjust: Off
Colour mode: Standard
Colour Gamut: Standard

I'm going by memory, so thats all i remember.

Hope this is helpful and not confusing. This was meant for PC users....
post #2357 of 15633
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

Great story, Thagerty!

Let us know how you think the 750 compares to your older model--

Only thing--You should have gotten the 67"

I would have--- but they didn't give me that option...
post #2358 of 15633
[quote=Terminator840;14658936]I finally got everything up and running.

I found a cheap stand at Big Lots of all places, which looks nice but I've still got to do some touch ups on it and some tweaking. It will hold me over until I can find something that fits all of my components. Anyways spent the day today putting it together and re-configuring my home theater.

Here are my pics. of my new setup






Would you happen to remember the maker of that stand. I really like that and I'm going to be putting it in a corner when I get the tv so that might work out great for me. Thanks.
post #2359 of 15633
FYI
Just as a follow up to my original question, because I received different opinions on the question that I posed; I decided to e-mail Samsung. The question was:

"Is it OK to transport an HL67A750 television in its shipping box lying flat with the screen facing up for a short period of time?

Samsung e-mailed me the following answer:

" Provided it is a smooth ride there should be no issues when you reach your destination. "
post #2360 of 15633
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Originally Posted by thagerty View Post

I would have--- but they didn't give me that option...


Maybe they'd let you pay the difference?

It's not too much.
post #2361 of 15633
Hey all I just picked up this set and am enjoying it very much so far.

I'm following the Greyscale Calibration Guide and have a few quick questions that I've not found specific answers to read through the posts.

Under the "WB" section I see "R_Offset", "R_Gain", etc.

Is "Offset" the same as "LowEnd" and "Gain" the same as "HighEnd"?

Also I remember seeing the first line is "P.Mode = Dynamic". Is this something I need to change? I don't want dynamic anything I believe.

Thanks!
Paul
post #2362 of 15633
Anyone have the Sept. issue of Widescreen Review magazine? I got an email saying their Sept. (print) issue will have a review of the 61a750 and I'm curious what it says.
post #2363 of 15633
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by thagerty View Post

And later i finished more or my Car Racing thing and put in a Logitech G25 Racing wheel with 5 speed shifter and clutch. (I can also use it for flight sims as well)



Heres'a another shot showing the seat i used from a Pontiac Sunfire (from a good condition car in a scrap yard for $25).When i don't use my "CAR", I slide off to the side of the room!


Cool, I need to build something like that! Sent you a PM, asking for more pics/details of it.
post #2364 of 15633
I have to say...I just keep getting happier with my decision to purchase this TV. I've had it a few weeks now and I couldn't be more pleased.

I am still using the settings from page 1 of this thread. The only changes I have made is I tend to use movie mode (w/ PS3 blu-ray movies) with the LED Control on high rather than medium. I do switch it back from time to time, but medium seemed to be a bit too dark. I was losing detail in dark scenes.
post #2365 of 15633
Damn, i'm stuck between this 61A750 and the Samsung PN50A550 Plasma.
One thing's for sure, the fact that the LED DLPs base width is 15" and the fact that it's 61" puts me off since i dont exactly have the room.

Where as the Plasma is the perfect size. But as far as handling motion goes, i'm guessing the DLP does it better, no? And as far as color and blacks go, i'm guessing the plasma has the upperhand in that area.
post #2366 of 15633
I have had my 61A750 for two weeks and already experienced the TV not turning on and the flashing red lights. The fix in my case was selecting the source from the side of the TV and not the remote. I may re think getting the BB warranty.
post #2367 of 15633
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Originally Posted by WaveBoy View Post

Damn, i'm stuck between this 61A750 and the Samsung PN50A550 Plasma.
One thing's for sure, the fact that the LED DLPs base width is 15" and the fact that it's 61" puts me off since i dont exactly have the room.

Where as the Plasma is the perfect size. But as far as handling motion goes, i'm guessing the DLP does it better, no? And as far as color and blacks go, i'm guessing the plasma has the upperhand in that area.

I would not recommend plasma. If you do go flat got LCD if you have too.
post #2368 of 15633
Why would you recommend LCD over plasma?
post #2369 of 15633
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Originally Posted by bmann29 View Post

I would not recommend plasma. If you do go flat got LCD if you have too.

wow, that wasn't helpful at all, and completely bogus. Why on earth would you choose LCD over Plasma? And no, i will not get an LCD, there's no way
post #2370 of 15633
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Originally Posted by bmann29 View Post

I would not recommend plasma. If you do go flat got LCD if you have too.

Unless you live on the surface of the sun you should always choose Plasma over LCD if those are your only options.
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