The Official Samsung BD-P1500 Owner's Thread - Page 91

Originally Posted by scaesare

This unit cannot do anything with DTS-HD MA other than bitstream it. Same for DTS-HD HR

It cannot decode it to PCM for output via HDMI, nor can it re-encode to DTS 1.5Mbs. Yet.*

You were probabbly getting the lossy DTS core trascoded.

* Rumor has it future firmware will provide this... I'm skeptic.

Originally Posted by notlad

Mine is;

080822.01 081908B1 XAA

I assume that means the date of Aug 22, 2008. What version would that be?

Originally Posted by SKoprowski

My mistake- you get core 1.5 DTS with DTS-HD MA/HR anyway.

Originally Posted by SKoprowski

It will re-encode TrueHD to 1.5 DTS. Bottom line is that the Samsung 1500 offers the best sound options IMHO for people who have receivers that cannot decode DTS-HD MA or TrueHD.

Originally Posted by SKoprowski View Post
It will re-encode TrueHD to 1.5 DTS. Bottom line is that the Samsung 1500 offers the best sound options IMHO for people who have receivers that cannot decode DTS-HD MA or TrueHD.

Originally Posted by lilcobrar

Ok I like many others had problems with Rambo audio dropouts. I talked to Samsungs live chat last night and the guy said install the latest firmware and it will fix it. So I loaded the firmware up last night with zero problems.

I have everything going to a Denon-788 AVR which supports DTS.

So after the firmware update I load up the Rambo dvd. I start it and the sound is working like normal. I try to skip a chapter to see if the sound works which it would not before and IT WORKS ! Ok I go to the notorius boat scene to see if the audio drops out and it works also. So I get excited. Then I notice that my Denon avr says "Multi Ch In" instead of "DTS Master Audio". And the Blue DTS light is not on like it should be.

So I go into the blu-ray players menu and go to Audio and it has it changed to PCM. So I changed it back to "Bitstream Audophile" I load Rambo and the DTS light comes on like normal BUT THE FREAKING AUDIO IS GONE JUST LIKE IT WAS BEFORE.

Is there any difference in PCM and BITSTREAM through the Denon-788 besides the fact it doesn't say DTS ?

What all else in the settings does the Firmware update change ? It has PCM Downsampling Turned to ON and Dynamic Compression On. Is that correct ?

Thanks

Originally Posted by wabkab

I don't know why it won't play Rambo with bitstream audiophile. My Denon 2808 didn't miss a beat with the Samsung in DTS-MA. Anyway, everytime you update firmware, you'll need to go and change the menu settings for playback as it puts everything back to default. You don't want PCM downsampling on and also turn off Dynamic compression. Maybe, try to do a reset via the menu or unplug for about a minute and replug. Then go and redo the settings as you need, ie. bitstream audiophile, etc. Try Rambo again after that. Good luck and I'll have no idea if that doesn't work. Samsung will probably suggest you send it in.

Nevermind on the decoding part. The 788 doesn't have decoders for the new HD codecs. You're best bet is to go via HDMI and set everything to LPCM in the BDplayer which will read on your AVR "Multi CH IN". You're getting the player to decode everything and pass it the AVR. You'll get no loss of SQ vs bitstream with all codecs except DTS-MA which these Samsungs don't have internal decoding yet. It will pass it as a DTS core signal--still reading Multi CH IN on the avr.

Originally Posted by lilcobrar

Hey I'm sorry I have the Denon-789 not the 788. Sorry for the confusion. Now what do you suggest ? Thanks for all the help.

Originally Posted by wabkab

So I guess your saying that one will decode DTS-MA, etc.? If so, then do as I mentioned before my Nevermind part. You could also go into the menu and verify that the update did go through(it sounds like it did since everything reset to default). Good luck and let us know.

Originally Posted by lilcobrar

Yes it will decode DTS. I will unplug the unit and go from there. I already verified the update. So your saying I need to turn pcm downsampling and compression off ? Thanks

BTW did you say you watched Rambo on your setup and had no problems ? I know many members on here have had the same problems with Rambo that I have had. I watched Hitman bluray and it never missed a beat.

How much different is PCM versus Bitstream coming through the receiver actually gonna sound except for the pretty blue light not lighting up ?

Originally Posted by JimmyHDTV

I just picked up the Samsung P1500 from the Amazon deal and received it yesterday. So far, so good...the image quality is excellent (although my HL61A750 said it was feeding a 60hz picture when I played Resident Evil: Extinction...until I looked at one of the bonus features, then it switched to 24hz, then when I went back to the movie it continued to play at 24hz also...some weird quirk? I didn't notice any quality differences when it said 60hz versus 24hz).

Anyway, with BonusView discs like RE:E, there's a constant "BonusView" message in the upper left corner of the screen. The only way I found to turn it off is to shut off all System Messages from the setup menu...but then I don't get ANY feedback messages. Is there another way to shut off the BonusView message without shutting off all messages?

Who would ever want to see that annoying message on the screen all the time? People who miss the constant TV logos and want to reproduce the experience with BD?

Thanks,
-JimmyHDTV

Originally Posted by wabkab

Quick fix- click the INFO button, then the Menu button just to the left of it on the remote--turns it off until you pause and restart etc. Then just do it again. I found that by total accident and posted it a few months back. Works!

Originally Posted by JimmyHDTV

Thanks for the info wabkab.

I gotta say though...that is really bad design.

Originally Posted by wabkab

I watched Rambo on bitstream audiophile (DTS-MA) without a problem--it was even a netflix rental. I would turn off downsampling and compression for sure--don't degrade the full signal we strive for.

You shouldn't need to go the PCM route, but if you do, it would be theoretically near identical with the exception of DTS-MA tracks that the 1500 can't decode and then pass as uncompressed PCM--you get a DTS quality sound there.

Originally Posted by lilcobrar

Well i just got home and unhooked the power on the bluray player and tried it all again. If I skip chapters the audio disappears like it did before. I can hit the pause button and then play and the audio comes back. I read that on the Rambo movie the pause and play button will make the audio work if it drops out and it does. Ok so I fast forwarded to the boat scene where most have problems with the video freezing a little and the audio dropping out. With the audio and video working at this part of the movie it no longer freezes or loses audio. I'm hoping that part of it is fixed however if i skip chapters the same thing is still happening. I have no reason to skip chapters as long as the movie i'm watching doesn't freeze.

Any more ideas ?

Originally Posted by lilcobrar

Well i just got home and unhooked the power on the bluray player and tried it all again. If I skip chapters the audio disappears like it did before. I can hit the pause button and then play and the audio comes back. I read that on the Rambo movie the pause and play button will make the audio work if it drops out and it does. Ok so I fast forwarded to the boat scene where most have problems with the video freezing a little and the audio dropping out. With the audio and video working at this part of the movie it no longer freezes or loses audio. I'm hoping that part of it is fixed however if i skip chapters the same thing is still happening. I have no reason to skip chapters as long as the movie i'm watching doesn't freeze.

Any more ideas ?

Originally Posted by scuderia uno

It is not the player nor the AVR that is flawed but rather the disc itself. Probably you got one of the many Rambo BD that have been reported to be defective. It's a hit-or-miss and I remember watching a Netflix rental of Rambo and it played just fine on my 1500. My receiver is a PIO 1018.

Originally Posted by Dick Laurent

I've been searching the forums to find recent talk about audio drops, but couldn't come up with anything recent about what I have. I only have two BD's that towards the end of the movie, last 10 mins, maybe, the audio drops out for not even a second. Almost like a quick layer change. I've watched maybe eight different discs, and the only ones that do this so far are: Hostel II, and Indiana Jones...Crystal Skull.

I have the setting to bitstream, audiophile. Onkyo 605 AVR. Latest FW on both.

Any news here?

Thanks-

Originally Posted by Dick Laurent

I've been searching the forums to find recent talk about audio drops, but couldn't come up with anything recent about what I have. I only have two BD's that towards the end of the movie, last 10 mins, maybe, the audio drops out for not even a second. Almost like a quick layer change. I've watched maybe eight different discs, and the only ones that do this so far are: Hostel II, and Indiana Jones...Crystal Skull.

I have the setting to bitstream, audiophile. Onkyo 605 AVR. Latest FW on both.

Any news here?

Thanks-

Originally Posted by RLipp69

just rented hellboy and i cant get the bonus view icon from the upper right hand corner to disapear.Is any1 else having this problem?

Originally Posted by ack_bk

This question has been answered numerous times in this thread, and on this very same page. Just read up a few posts and you will have your answer.

Originally Posted by RLipp69

Thank you I should have seen that.