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post #2941 of 5645
I bought my father the Samsung BD1500 a month ago and hooked it up to his Samsung LN52A630 LCD. Downloaded the latest firmware and WOW! I could not believe the image quality. It almost looked fake it was so real. It was like watching movies in 3-D. The smoothing and clarity was simply unbelievable. I also go him the Monster Ultra 1000 HDMI cable because the guy told me he would need it since his TV uses Auto Motion Plus 120 hz.

So, I went out and got myself the same BD1500 and hooked it up to my Samsung PN58A650. Also downloaded the latest firmware but was using a regular HMDI cable. The picture looks OK but nothing like my fathers. I don't see the same transition smoothing like his and the movies do not look 3-D at all. I even went out and bought the same Monster Ultra 1000 cable thinking that maybe that could be the problem, although I've read that cables don't really matter that much since data is just 1's and 0's. Still no difference in picture quality.

How could his LCD have a better picture than my Plasma? Is everyone happy with their picture quality? Am I missing something here? I think I've read every post here and Googled just about everything I could think of. This is driving me crazy. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
post #2942 of 5645
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Originally Posted by dakar80124 View Post

Well it "sounds" like the bdp-1500 is a decent enough player but all the little issues etc. of not being able to play certain titles and constant firmware updates are big reasons to NOT get a bd player. On Friday several places are selling this unit for 199. Although the Sony BDP-S350 is also going to be marked down as well. Is the Sony worth $30-40 more?

I just returned one, and was now looking at the samsung 1500...

The Sony was choking on high bitrate (25 mbps) videos played back from DVD5/9 media, admittedly not the top priority, but the PS3 handles them fine...
post #2943 of 5645
Have you ever calibrated your display?
post #2944 of 5645
Just purchased a 1500. Took less then 5 minuets to hookup: Power, HDMI, ENET Cable and 1 GIG Memory Stick. 1 minute to configure my 885 PREPRO.

Turned on the Samsung 1500, screen came up and went into the menu. Made my change....didn't even need the manual, very easy to do and good info on this thread from past reads. To this point, maybe 10 to 15 minuets. The firmware took about another 20 minutes. Needed to re-edit the menu, Very simple!

I have watched The kingdom/DTS HDMA, YES- Live in Montreux/ DTS HDMA, Iron Man/ DD TrueHD and the BD Live worked fine, Love Guru, 300 and 50 first dates. Not one skip, Great picture-Colors are fine, codecs worked fine. Except for the firmware download, It was fast and easy!
post #2945 of 5645
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Originally Posted by Matt1966 View Post

Have you ever calibrated your display?

I'm sorry, is this reply in response to my post on Blu Ray Picture Quality? If so, I have not had it professionally calibrated but I get an awesome picture through my HD cable. I'm just not getting as good of a picture with Blu Ray which has me boggled since it's supposed to be 1080P.
post #2946 of 5645
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Originally Posted by marlabone View Post

I bought my father the Samsung BD1500 a month ago and hooked it up to his Samsung LN52A630 LCD. Downloaded the latest firmware and WOW! I could not believe the image quality. It almost looked fake it was so real. It was like watching movies in 3-D. The smoothing and clarity was simply unbelievable. I also go him the Monster Ultra 1000 HDMI cable because the guy told me he would need it since his TV uses Auto Motion Plus 120 hz.

So, I went out and got myself the same BD1500 and hooked it up to my Samsung PN58A650. Also downloaded the latest firmware but was using a regular HMDI cable. The picture looks OK but nothing like my fathers. I don't see the same transition smoothing like his and the movies do not look 3-D at all. I even went out and bought the same Monster Ultra 1000 cable thinking that maybe that could be the problem, although I've read that cables don't really matter that much since data is just 1's and 0's. Still no difference in picture quality.

How could his LCD have a better picture than my Plasma? Is everyone happy with their picture quality? Am I missing something here? I think I've read every post here and Googled just about everything I could think of. This is driving me crazy. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Yes, in my opinion, despite what experts say, I think LCD looks much better than Plasma, and the LN 630 is one of the best.

Cheers.
post #2947 of 5645
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

Just purchased a 1500. Took less then 5 minuets to hookup: Power, HDMI, ENET Cable and 1 GIG Memory Stick. 1 minute to configure my 885 PREPRO.

Turned on the Samsung 1500, screen came up and went into the menu. Made my change....didn't even need the manual, very easy to do and good info on this thread from past reads. To this point, maybe 10 to 15 minuets. The firmware took about another 20 minutes. Needed to re-edit the menu, Very simple!

I have watched The kingdom/DTS HDMA, YES- Live in Montreux/ DTS HDMA, Iron Man/ DD TrueHD and the BD Live worked fine, Love Guru, 300 and 50 first dates. Not one skip, Great picture-Colors are fine, codecs worked fine. Except for the firmware download, It was fast and easy!

What is the 1 Gig memory stick for. I have not had a chance to read all the posts and must have missed that.
post #2948 of 5645
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Originally Posted by Ingeborgdot View Post

What is the 1 Gig memory stick for. I have not had a chance to read all the posts and must have missed that.

BD live
post #2949 of 5645
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Originally Posted by marlabone View Post

I bought my father the Samsung BD1500 a month ago and hooked it up to his Samsung LN52A630 LCD. Downloaded the latest firmware and WOW! I could not believe the image quality. It almost looked fake it was so real. It was like watching movies in 3-D. The smoothing and clarity was simply unbelievable. I also go him the Monster Ultra 1000 HDMI cable because the guy told me he would need it since his TV uses Auto Motion Plus 120 hz.

So, I went out and got myself the same BD1500 and hooked it up to my Samsung PN58A650. Also downloaded the latest firmware but was using a regular HMDI cable. The picture looks OK but nothing like my fathers. I don't see the same transition smoothing like his and the movies do not look 3-D at all. I even went out and bought the same Monster Ultra 1000 cable thinking that maybe that could be the problem, although I've read that cables don't really matter that much since data is just 1's and 0's. Still no difference in picture quality.

How could his LCD have a better picture than my Plasma? Is everyone happy with their picture quality? Am I missing something here? I think I've read every post here and Googled just about everything I could think of. This is driving me crazy. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

As you found out the hard way, the cable has nothing to do with it.

I think what you are seeing is the 120 hz smoothing effect on the LCD. I have seen this in store demos before, and discussed it with a rep, the movie looks almost like a video tape instead of a film. This is actually a false image effect you are seeing, as the movie on Blu-ray is a movie, and should look like a film if recreated properly. It looks like a film if you saw it in the movie theatre. I think extended viewing of this may prove annoying, as it overemphasises contrast and edge effect at the expense of accuracy in the image reproduction (of course, this is my opinion only, you may think differently). I will say though, it caught my attention when I first saw it.

You can see if this is true by turning off the 120hz refresh, and I think you will see that the picture returns to looking like a film. The 120 hz feature is a technique developed to help smooth out the blurred movement inherent in LCD displays and absent in plasma sets. Again, my opinion from observation is it partially compensates for the LCD movement blur on a live source, like a football game, but there is still some movement blur present not seen on a plasma set. When the 120 Hz smoothing is left on with a film source, it gives the effect I think you are describing.

This is not saying the tv is good or bad, I was just trying to explain the effect I think you were seeing. It may look unreal good, because it is unreal.

Try the experiment, turn the 120hz refresh off on your father's TV and see if it returns to a normal film look on his set.

Please understand, I am not trying to flame LCDs or their owners with this post, both plasma and LCD can produce great results, but there are differences in the display technology. Assuming you set the plasma display up properly, there is probably nothing wrong with your plasma, it is not inherently inferior to the LCD picture produced by Blu-ray (or anything else), and you should get an excellent picture with both.
post #2950 of 5645
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Originally Posted by Ralarcon View Post

Yes, in my opinion, despite what experts say, I think LCD looks much better than Plasma, and the LN 630 is one of the best.

Cheers.

I agree. Outside of the Pioneer Elite line of plasmas, the 630 / 650 line of LCD tvs is VERY hard to beat.
post #2951 of 5645
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

BD live

Oh yeah. I need to download the updated firmware first to 2.0 right? Have they fixed the firmware update yet?
post #2952 of 5645
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Originally Posted by Ingeborgdot View Post

Oh yeah. I need to download the updated firmware first to 2.0 right? Have they fixed the firmware update yet?

I had no problem updating my firmware over the net.
post #2953 of 5645
BD Live contents, where are the data stored? Is there a internal HDD in the BD-P1500??
post #2954 of 5645
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobTennis View Post

As you found out the hard way, the cable has nothing to do with it.

I think what you are seeing is the 120 hz smoothing effect on the LCD. I have seen this in store demos before, and discussed it with a rep, the movie looks almost like a video tape instead of a film. This is actually a false image effect you are seeing, as the movie on Blu-ray is a movie, and should look like a film if recreated properly. It looks like a film if you saw it in the movie theatre. I think extended viewing of this may prove annoying, as it overemphasises contrast and edge effect at the expense of accuracy in the image reproduction (of course, this is my opinion only, you may think differently). I will say though, it caught my attention when I first saw it.

You can see if this is true by turning off the 120hz refresh, and I think you will see that the picture returns to looking like a film. The 120 hz feature is a technique developed to help smooth out the blurred movement inherent in LCD displays and absent in plasma sets. Again, my opinion from observation is it partially compensates for the LCD movement blur on a live source, like a football game, but there is still some movement blur present not seen on a plasma set. When the 120 Hz smoothing is left on with a film source, it gives the effect I think you are describing.

This is not saying the tv is good or bad, I was just trying to explain the effect I think you were seeing. It may look unreal good, because it is unreal.

Try the experiment, turn the 120hz refresh off on your father's TV and see if it returns to a normal film look on his set.

Please understand, I am not trying to flame LCDs or their owners with this post, both plasma and LCD can produce great results, but there are differences in the display technology. Assuming you set the plasma display up properly, there is probably nothing wrong with your plasma, it is not inherently inferior to the LCD picture produced by Blu-ray (or anything else), and you should get an excellent picture with both.

Thank you for your response. I think you've nailed it right on the head with what I'm seeing on the LCD. Too bad though because I kind of liked it, although I haven't sat through an entire movie so I don't know if it would have become annoying. Oh well, at least it's good to know there is nothing wrong with my set up.
post #2955 of 5645
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Originally Posted by mumulee View Post

BD Live contents, where are the data stored? Is there a internal HDD in the BD-P1500??

Read a couple posts up
post #2956 of 5645
im a douche. i just read a few post back and realized i need to pop in a usb thumb drive. d'uh! BD-Live worked. thanks!!
post #2957 of 5645
I just updated my firmware to 2.0 from the origional and the player is barely responding to commands. It plays disks but the remote functions are freezing. I wish i never upgraded the firmware it was fine before.
I know i read somewhere here how to revert back to the previous firmware. I would appreciate any tips.
post #2958 of 5645
Hi.

Finally got to test BDP1500 and DVD over my new 61" LED DLP, which is a great combo. LED displays are not anything like the new Samsung series 7 DLP displays. In fact plasma is too harsh so if your use to going to the Movies and watching the DLP picture, it is very close and inexpensive too!

I found that the DVD playback at 1080p HDMI was very close to BD. So as far as I am concerned the upconvert is worth every penny I paid for the player. The only reason to buy a DB is to replace a bad transfered DVD when and if available. It seems that BD is a little better, kind of like Superbit DVD push... with the proper equipment the cost does not warrent dumping DVD over BD. For a cheap player it is a great playback device, once you install and leave in the thumb drive, update the firmware, disable OSD, and Network.
post #2959 of 5645
Hi,
I'm looking to buy this player to replace an oppo 970 and a PS3.
Both are going to the upper floor and therefore need something to play BR and upscale DVD in the living room.
I have a rather large collection of DVDs backups on cheap media (DVD+R Frys "GQ") that the oppo plays flawlessly.
Did anybody tried playing such discs into the 1500?

I also need to hookup a projector and a HDTV. projector only accepts component, TV both components and hdmi.
Again, here the oppo can output both hdmi and component at the same time, will the 1500 be able to do the same (PS3 does not for example, quite a pain to setup everytime you want to switch between PJ and TV) ?

Same for sound, will I be able to output sound via optical and hdmi (to the tv) without have to enter in any setup (this is a 2008 wife compliance check) ?

I'm going back to read all the postings but if anybody have any quick feedback on the upscaling quality of this player respect to the oppo it will be appreciated.

Thanks for any response and if this is has been already debated I aplogize in advance (I'm still at page 10 of the threads....)

-S
post #2960 of 5645
Does anyone know how I can access the "position bar", like when you pause, while playing the DVD?
post #2961 of 5645
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan webster View Post

I just updated my firmware to 2.0 from the origional and the player is barely responding to commands. It plays disks but the remote functions are freezing. I wish i never upgraded the firmware it was fine before.
I know i read somewhere here how to revert back to the previous firmware. I would appreciate any tips.

What discs? I am not having the same problem.
post #2962 of 5645
just a ? but will a sandisk 2GB thumb drive work fine? It makes me wonder if BD-Live if freezing the player when I put in Ironman since the player doesnt have enough memory to prepare and store its contents on the flash drive. I had no flash drive in there at the time. I can leave network on and it pull up the video but setting BD-Live to prohibit plays the movie.
post #2963 of 5645
using the virtual keyboard (remote)for the BD-Live disc is slow and painful. i was trying to register my sony blu-ray account and punching my email and password takes "literally" forever.
post #2964 of 5645
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobTennis View Post

As you found out the hard way, the cable has nothing to do with it.

I think what you are seeing is the 120 hz smoothing effect on the LCD. I have seen this in store demos before, and discussed it with a rep, the movie looks almost like a video tape instead of a film. This is actually a false image effect you are seeing, as the movie on Blu-ray is a movie, and should look like a film if recreated properly. It looks like a film if you saw it in the movie theatre. I think extended viewing of this may prove annoying, as it overemphasises contrast and edge effect at the expense of accuracy in the image reproduction (of course, this is my opinion only, you may think differently). I will say though, it caught my attention when I first saw it.

You can see if this is true by turning off the 120hz refresh, and I think you will see that the picture returns to looking like a film. The 120 hz feature is a technique developed to help smooth out the blurred movement inherent in LCD displays and absent in plasma sets. Again, my opinion from observation is it partially compensates for the LCD movement blur on a live source, like a football game, but there is still some movement blur present not seen on a plasma set. When the 120 Hz smoothing is left on with a film source, it gives the effect I think you are describing.

This is not saying the tv is good or bad, I was just trying to explain the effect I think you were seeing. It may look unreal good, because it is unreal.

Try the experiment, turn the 120hz refresh off on your father's TV and see if it returns to a normal film look on his set.

Please understand, I am not trying to flame LCDs or their owners with this post, both plasma and LCD can produce great results, but there are differences in the display technology. Assuming you set the plasma display up properly, there is probably nothing wrong with your plasma, it is not inherently inferior to the LCD picture produced by Blu-ray (or anything else), and you should get an excellent picture with both.

I have the LN52A650 which is similar to the 630 but with the clear screen instead of the matte screen on the 630. For movies I turn off the AMP (which causes the TV to do proper 5:5 pulldown which is excellent for displaying films sourced at 24fps). For regular TV shows I turn AMP to "low" and for watching sports I turn it to "medium". This seems to work best for me.

For the OP, I would recommend that he make sure that he has the 24 frame mode in the BD-P1500 turned on and that he has clibrated his set. Calibration is everything with these TV's. It must have taken me like 2 hours playing with the different settings to get the TV to display the image just like I like it (I use different settings for TV/Cable and for the BD player). Now the picture is freakin' awesome! After watching a good HD show on this new set I am wondering how did I ever get used to watching TV the "old" analog way? Now I could never think of going back to that (or even having to watch a set not as good as this one or one that's badly calibrated).
post #2965 of 5645
I will be hooking up my 1500 to my new panny 3000 this weekend. Are there any settings I should know so I can have a fast and easy hook up. I know I will read the manual but it is always nice when the experts give you some good advice and settings to use. Thanks in advance.
post #2966 of 5645
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Originally Posted by Ingeborgdot View Post

I will be hooking up my 1500 to my new panny 3000 this weekend. Are there any settings I should know so I can have a fast and easy hook up. I know I will read the manual but it is always nice when the experts give you some good advice and settings to use. Thanks in advance.

I've found DHCP to not work well at all. Sometimes I'd have to power on the player without a movie, wait 5 minutes for it to get an IP, then drop the movie in. I set the player to a static IP address, and I've had zero problems since then. Just my two cents.
post #2967 of 5645
I just bought a 1500, hooked it up to my network, and DHCP worked fine.

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Originally Posted by Deezul View Post

I've found DHCP to not work well at all. Sometimes I'd have to power on the player without a movie, wait 5 minutes for it to get an IP, then drop the movie in. I set the player to a static IP address, and I've had zero problems since then. Just my two cents.
post #2968 of 5645
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Originally Posted by bk View Post

I just bought a 1500, hooked it up to my network, and DHCP worked fine.

Not saying DHCP didn't work for me, but I'd boot up the player, go to "check for upgrade" and it would work until the 3rd or 4th time. It would keep giving me errors that there was no network connection. My two 360s and numerous computers don't have problems, so it's likely a router-player issue.
post #2969 of 5645
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Originally Posted by mumulee View Post

im a douche. i just read a few post back and realized i need to pop in a usb thumb drive. d'uh! BD-Live worked. thanks!!

Why are you a douche? Nowhere in the owners manual does it say anything about a USB drive or how it is used or even why. the only thing it says is that it is for Firmware Upgrade usage only.
post #2970 of 5645
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Originally Posted by marlabone View Post

I bought my father the Samsung BD1500 a month ago and hooked it up to his Samsung LN52A630 LCD. Downloaded the latest firmware and WOW! I could not believe the image quality. It almost looked fake it was so real. It was like watching movies in 3-D. The smoothing and clarity was simply unbelievable. I also go him the Monster Ultra 1000 HDMI cable because the guy told me he would need it since his TV uses Auto Motion Plus 120 hz.

So, I went out and got myself the same BD1500 and hooked it up to my Samsung PN58A650. Also downloaded the latest firmware but was using a regular HMDI cable. The picture looks OK but nothing like my fathers. I don't see the same transition smoothing like his and the movies do not look 3-D at all. I even went out and bought the same Monster Ultra 1000 cable thinking that maybe that could be the problem, although I've read that cables don't really matter that much since data is just 1's and 0's. Still no difference in picture quality.

How could his LCD have a better picture than my Plasma? Is everyone happy with their picture quality? Am I missing something here? I think I've read every post here and Googled just about everything I could think of. This is driving me crazy. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

I have a 550 Sammy Plasma. My friend had the same LCD. Movies do look crazy fake and 3D. It is awesome at first but when you watch a whole movie it starts to look fake and out of place.

However, you can still get quite a pop from setting you plasma to torch mode (Vivid) and turning the DNIe on. It looks crazy awesome, though I'd turn the brigtness and contrast down a bit on it.
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