$600 Budget - ONKYO TX-SR605S?

The SR605 and the PS3 do not work together for 7.1 speakers and PCM. I would suggest the Yamaha RX-V663 and a monoprice HDMI switch for $390 online.

If you're still yet to get speakers and sub I'd stick with one of the $400ish receivers like the 605, 606, Yammy 663 etc. Put the $200 in your speaker/sub budget where it'll make the most difference.

Your obsession with your V663 is admirable but suggesting it with an external HDMI receiver is probably one of the bad advices - why should he go with external HDMI switch at all?

With such a small budget I'd forget 7.1 for starter, woouldn't make too much difference in your small room anyway. However I'm not familiar with HTIB systems, perhaps $600 could give you a better overall setup (assuming you won't have more money later to gradually upgrade if you go with custom setup.)

No you are right that he should just stick with 5.1 instead of 7.1. However, he said that he might want to do 7.1 with a PS3 and he asked Would you go with this. The answer is no don't go with the 605.

I don't think you understood what I was suggesting. I didn't say anything about an external receiver. I said an HDMI switch. The switch has a remote that can easily be programmed into any universal remote and all it does is straight passthrough. Really there is no need for Many HDMI inputs on a receiver when you can get an HDMI switch that does it for 1/10 the cost.

As far as the RX-V663 goes. Yes I am a huge proponent of it because right now it is the best New receiver for the price($350). Name one other receiver that offers more features for $350(Brand New with factory warranty)?........ [Poster waits as crickets chirp]

I see now but then where the hell will the sound come from?



It's a very capable one, no question about it, especially for its price, very affordable indeed. However it's not without issues and it's only good for people who like to stuck with the worse-than-craptastic scaling their TV or STB produces.

If you are referring to “Where would the sound come from with an HDMI switch”? Then the answer is the switch is just an audio/video passthrough device. The sound actually comes from your receiver. Still, at $390 for the receiver and switch you can not find anything with 5 HDMI inputs for less.

Actually I think you have it backwards. The scalers in TVs are generally regarded as better than the ones in receivers. On top of that those scalers typically only “Show their stuff” when upscaling standard definition 480i broadcast material. In those cases it makes it look better but it is still “Crap in = Crap out”.

I would argue that scaling in a receiver is almost as useless as BTB. In the real world you probably are not going to spend $800+ on an upscaling receiver so that your overly compressed standard definition Satellite signal looks 20% better. You are probably going to hook up an HD sat or cable box and a PS3 and do HDMI straight pass-through. In that case you would never even be able to engage upscaling.

I am curious as to what the issue is with 7.1 speakers and PCM with the PS3. I have been using my PS3 and SR605 together for the last 3 months with a 7.1 speaker setup with no problems. Is there something that i am missing?

The Onkyo 605 from Amazon?

(Maybe not more features but at least a comparable price.)

If you read post #1 and #2 it's already been stated that he's aware of the 605 pricing and the reason in which he suggested the 661 to be a better choice over it, which wouldn't be an issue for me but it might with some.

663 can NOT get dolby digital from direcTV HD hr21 reciever. more serious than BTB. but Your obsession with your V663 is admirable

Let's forget this part, you're obviously hopeless here...


Priceless.
I'm actually more and more convinced that you are indeed this khm, less informed and actually do believe all this funny stuff you write all around...

Actually the 605 and PS3 works perfectly together. I have no problem with 7.1 sound with the PS3.

With 2 HDMI ports (both receivers) and only 2 devices to connect, I don't understand the arguing about an HDMI switch. Both the Onkyo 606 and the Yamaha 663 should meet the OP's needs just fine.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post13908530

Try that post. I think the shop is ******.com or something like that. Many people have ordered through them without any problems at all. I got mine for $400 from jr.com a couple of months ago. Really if you are only ever going to do 5.1 then there are a lot of choices for you in the $350 and under range. You just have to read up on the drawbacks of each one and decide if those will affect you.

Are you sure? The 605 will not matrix 5.1 PCM sound to 7.1. However, it will take 7.1 PCM and send it to all speakers. It will matrix 5.1 DD and DTS though. Is that what you are using?

No it wont matrix 5.1 sound to 7.1 like you said but it does play 7.1 games in 7.1. Of course if that matters there is always the 606 which is $407 at Amazon.

i have a rarely used 605 for sale i upgraded to the 805.. im selling for 300 dollars...

That just comes with the territory when comparing A/V products. People generally promote what they buy. And that's not a bad thing--it means they're likely happy with what they bought. The bottom line is, forgetting about just the Yammy 663 and the Onkyo 605, at a minimum, you could throw comparable Denon, Harman Kardon and Pioneer receivers into the mix, and your search would become even more muddied.

These companies generally put out great receivers. And if you read different threads, someone will post that they had Denon and bought Onkyo, and the Onkyo smokes their old Denon. The next person will say they owned Onkyo and then bought Denon, and the Denon smokes the Onkyo. You get the point. It can be dizzying. The best you can do is go with your gut, and just pick one, and you'll likely be happy with what you choose.

I have one arriving tomorrow ($259 refurbed)...i'm psyched! it will be paired with a sammy 1400.
It replaces an 8 year old Sony that needs work

Yo ho ho, where did you find a refurb for that price?

There are 2 authorized Onk resellers. One is accessories4less and another is ecost.
They come with full manufacturers warranties.