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post #61 of 1057
6/5/08 at 1:36pm
This plasma shootout seems interesting. I've already decided upon the new Pioneer PDP-5020 (tentatively) but a lot could happen between now and October, when I plan to get it. The results of this comparison and the observations of the more experienced people on this forum should be instructive. My research for a new TV has become a running gag with my Sunday school class (I teach one, adult level) and so to not buy anything by year's end will be an embarrassment.

I don't have a home theater per se, but a conventional stereo setup to which I'll be adding a TV. I'll want to check in to see everyone's take on the plasmas in question, and perhaps gain insight on which one may work best with legacy equipment (Pioneer DVL-91 and Marantz DV-8400). My big thing is processing, so if something beats the Pioneer I'll want to check it out.

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post #62 of 1057
6/5/08 at 7:47pm
This is VERY cool!!! Can't wait!
post #63 of 1057
6/5/08 at 8:46pm
I wish you could also set up a PRO-110FD. Mainly I want to see how it compares with the 5020. I think it would be more interesting than having the 5010 present.
post #64 of 1057
6/5/08 at 8:57pm
If the PG7000 is not available in time for the shoot-out, would the 50PG60 be ok for an LG product/representation??
post #65 of 1057
6/5/08 at 10:05pm
Robert,

If you have any good Sony contacts I think it'd be great to get the 55inch XBR8 out there for comparison. Sony is thumping their chest hard and I rather see an unbiased shootout vs PR material from any company. If anyone has great Sony contacts, please forward them to Robert. We all benefit.
post #66 of 1057
6/5/08 at 10:25pm
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Originally Posted by RobertR1 View Post

Robert,

If you have any good Sony contacts I think it'd be great to get the 55inch XBR8 out there for comparison. Sony is thumping their chest hard and I rather see an unbiased shootout vs PR material from any company. If anyone has great Sony contacts, please forward them to Robert. We all benefit.

+1

http://gizmodo.com/5013722/sony-host...guess-who-wins
post #67 of 1057
6/5/08 at 10:54pm
If this event could somehow be recorded, I would sure buy a copy.
post #68 of 1057
6/6/08 at 4:16am
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Originally Posted by TommmyJ View Post

If the PG7000 is not available in time for the shoot-out, would the 50PG60 be ok for an LG product/representation??

Not really, it's the PG7000 that's supposed to have Infinite Contrast.
post #69 of 1057
6/6/08 at 6:39am
So only the LG with an advertised 0 idling luminance can be used or no LG product at all, when every other plasma in the shoot-out wouldn't have 0 idling luminance either?? The PG60 line is still one of LG's higher end models.
post #70 of 1057
6/6/08 at 6:40am
Are these all going to be calibrated? (a daunting task

Otherwise. what's the point?

thx

bob
post #71 of 1057
6/6/08 at 6:59am
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Are these all going to be calibrated? (a daunting task

Otherwise. what's the point?

thx

bob

.. probably yes, an on-site pro calibrator was used during last fall's LCD hosted shoot-out.
post #72 of 1057
6/6/08 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by daniel'son View Post

.. probably yes, an on-site pro calibrator was used during last fall's LCD hosted shoot-out.

I figured so but with all the possible contestants....

Can't wait



bob
post #73 of 1057
6/6/08 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by TommmyJ View Post

So only the LG with an advertised 0 idling luminance can be used or no LG product at all, when every other plasma in the shoot-out wouldn't have 0 idling luminance either?? The PG60 line is still one of LG's higher end models.

No, sorry I didn't mean that. The question might be does the PG60 even stand a chance against the other sets? Equal oppourtuniy and all but still?
post #74 of 1057
6/6/08 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by billybob0405 View Post

If this event could somehow be recorded, I would sure buy a copy.

I can bring my camcorder, if Robert has no objections.
(hv20)

I can shoot in 24p.. of the new pio displaying 24p.. LOL.
post #75 of 1057
6/6/08 at 7:58am
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Originally Posted by facesnorth View Post

I wish you could also set up a PRO-110FD. Mainly I want to see how it compares with the 5020. I think it would be more interesting than having the 5010 present.

We will have PDP-5010FD, PDP-5020FD, PRO-111FD, PDP-6020FD and the PRO-150FD sorry I do not have any PRO-110FD left.

-Robert
post #76 of 1057
6/6/08 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by kyungkim View Post

I can bring my camcorder, if Robert has no objections.
(hv20)

I can shoot in 24p.. of the new pio displaying 24p.. LOL.

Please bring it along and you can view the material for personal use only, so public viewing of the material is strictly prohibited without my written permission.

-Robert
post #77 of 1057
6/6/08 at 8:25am
why not make disk together and sell them for $10 each
post #78 of 1057
6/6/08 at 8:58am
+1 on the Sony XBR8. I think that would be one of the more interesting face-offs if there's any way to score one that early.
post #79 of 1057
6/6/08 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

We will have PDP-5010FD, PDP-5020FD, PRO-111FD, PDP-6020FD and the PRO-150FD sorry I do not have any PRO-110FD left.

-Robert

Robert,
I would be able to bring my 1150HD Elite if you are able to accomadate it.
Only ~700hrs on panel.
post #80 of 1057
6/6/08 at 9:53am
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

Robert,
I would be able to bring my 1150HD Elite if you are able to accomadate it.
Only ~700hrs on panel.


It would be cool to see a 768p thrown in the mix.
post #81 of 1057
6/6/08 at 11:03am
As a recovering LCD addict, I can't wait to see the results of this comparison.
post #82 of 1057
6/6/08 at 12:35pm
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It would be cool to see a 768p thrown in the mix.

ditto!
post #83 of 1057
6/6/08 at 3:21pm
Robert, like some others said why not a LG PG60 if PG7000 not yet available?
post #84 of 1057
6/6/08 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by spongebob View Post

Are these all going to be calibrated? (a daunting task

Otherwise. what's the point?

thx

bob

Every panel will be ISF calibrated by the same ISF certified expert, with the same tools, on the same day and with the same sources. In fact, the ISF calibrator will be on the panel of presenters explaining what he did and what to look for in a panel.

-Robert
post #85 of 1057
6/6/08 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

Every panel will be ISF calibrated by the same ISF certified expert, with the same tools, on the same day and with the same sources. In fact, the ISF calibrator will be on the panel of presenters explaining what he did and what to look for in a panel.

-Robert

with the same lighting conditions as the show as well!
post #86 of 1057
6/6/08 at 9:43pm
Hey y'all. I just wanted to repeat it here for anyone joining this thread on page 3. Some AVSers will be there Saturday and will do lunch after the shoot-out and reception. Robert says there's a great place around the corner. Want to come? Shoot me a PM. I'll make the reservation.
post #87 of 1057
6/6/08 at 10:08pm
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Originally Posted by Vashti View Post

+1 on the Sony XBR8. I think that would be one of the more interesting face-offs if there's any way to score one that early.

+1

Without a KDL-55XBR8 for the shoot-out, DTV TiVo Dealer may very well be holding a sham event here... With the KDL-55XBR8 not being available till September or so, I suppose this gives him a legitimate excuse... oh well!
post #88 of 1057
6/6/08 at 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by rgb32 View Post

+1

Without a KDL-55XBR8 for the shoot-out, DTV TiVo Dealer may very well be holding a sham event here... With the KDL-55XBR8 not being available till September or so, I suppose this gives him a legitimate excuse... oh well!

I certainly would NOT call it a sham shoot-out - especially since this is a plasma shoot-out. Robert already held an LCD shoot-out. Still, if he could find one, and was willing to include it in his plasma shoot-out, I would find it extremely interesting.
post #89 of 1057
6/7/08 at 3:59am
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Originally Posted by Vashti View Post

I certainly would NOT call it a sham shoot-out - especially since this is a plasma shoot-out. Robert already held an LCD shoot-out. Still, if he could find one, and was willing to include it in his plasma shoot-out, I would find it extremely interesting.

I second your point. Since this is a plasma shoot-out, and is advertised as such, it is legitimate to exclude LCDs if one so chooses. Perhaps a plasma vs. LCD shoot-out could occur as a follow-up, with the winners of the LCD shootout put up against the winning plasmas. The XBR8 would surely be available by the time such an event took place.
post #90 of 1057
6/7/08 at 5:57am
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Originally Posted by prepress View Post

I second your point. Since this is a plasma shoot-out, and is advertised as such, it is legitimate to exclude LCDs if one so chooses. Perhaps a plasma vs. LCD shoot-out could occur as a follow-up, with the winners of the LCD shootout put up against the winning plasmas. The XBR8 would surely be available by the time such an event took place.

.. i believe the favorite LCD during last Fall's shoot-out was the Toshiba 52LX177; its newer brother (replacement) appears to be the 52XF550U.
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