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post #121 of 2239
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Originally Posted by NorthBayNicole View Post

I called my local store (Novato California) and asked about the 15-193. I was told that "No one has these, they've been discontinued because no one was buying them."

This reminds me of something that (I think) Yogi Berra once said:

"Nobody comes out to the ballpark to watch a ballgame anymore because it's too crowded."
post #122 of 2239
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Originally Posted by lexus2108 View Post

too bad Cc does not have the 901 on website so you can do a store search Only the 900's are on website

True, but when I went into a CC in my area and they only had the DTT900, I mentioned it to an employee. He typed in DTT901 on his computer in the store and it showed both the DTT900 and 901 in the computer. He punched up the 901 and did a local search for me. Interestingly enough, about 7 other local CC's had the 901 and only the one I was at did not. Anyway, something to consider trying. The guy also printed out a small receipt that I could take to the other stores and hand to them so I would not have to explain again.. but this was not needed as I easily found the 901's (mixed in with the 900's) at the other store.
post #123 of 2239
Our CC store in Stockton will special order and you have the choice to have it shipped to you or the store for pick up. They are aware of the difference between 900s and 901s.
post #124 of 2239
Two days ago the Circuit City in Peoria IL. only had three DTT901 boxes. There were no DTT900s. The shelves were completely empty except for those three boxes.
I need a 3rd converter box, and am waiting to see what develops before Feb 17.
post #125 of 2239
Yes, despite buying LG's remaining 900's, CC seems to be selling these rather quickly. A week ago, I picked up a 900 from a sizeable stack of them at my CC in New Orleans. After learning of the release of the 901 here on AVS, I went back yesterday to try to find one. I was pleasantly surprised to see the same size stack of boxes; with the majority of them being 901's. There were still some 900's in the stack but I would have almost had to go out of my way to pick one.
post #126 of 2239
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Originally Posted by wh5916 View Post

A GE/Jasco remote, model 24950, available at Target for under $15.00, has a code that controls the majority of the functions on the Zenith DTT900/DTT901 converters. Code # is 0656, and it's listed as a Zenith code in the manual, under the heading SAT/DTV/WebTV.

The few functions (and they are very few, such as closed captions and zoom) that are not assigned to buttons by this preset can be easily added with the learning function of the remote if desired.

Thank you - I'll give it a try.
post #127 of 2239
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

You are still confusing "control signals" with "control codes." Universal remotes emulate the control signals of OEM remotes. "Control signals" for a Zenith CECB are universal but the "control code" used by one manufacturer of a universal remote is not shared with another manufacturer of a universal remote to control the same Zenith CECB.

Manufacturers of universal remotes assign their own remote code that activates/implements the control signals for a given device, such as the Zenith CECB, on their own brand of remote. This control code is not universal among different brands of remotes.

Within this context you are correct, there are no "universal" remote codes.

Universal "learning" remotes may be taught "control signals" from original OEM remotes.

Yesterday I responded to your same question and offered information concerning two inexpensive Philips universal remotes (one a standard model and one a "learning" model, both priced under $10) that I use to control my Zenith CECBs. Both Philips universal remotes use code 0267 to activate the control signals for Zenith CECBs. The 0267 code is listed twice by Philips under Zenith in the SAT/DTV/WebTV, and DVR/SAT Combo sections in their twelve pages of codes.

The earlier post is found here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14094860

Thank you. Perhaps my universal remotes are just too old to do the job. I'll try those you listed. Also, your reply clears up some basic confusion I apparently have had regarding control signals and codes. Thanks again.
post #128 of 2239
If anyone's using the DTT901 with a wide-screen TV, can you check to see if the 901 has the zoom mode bug? Thanks.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post14109462
post #129 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post

I want to take my two April 900's back to CC and exchange them for 901's as I would like the stronger audio output.What do I have to tell them to make the exchange? I am within my 30 day return window. Do I have to go to the store where the original purchse was made or can I go to any CC for the exchange?
Thanks,

Although others seem to have had luck doing an exchange, the CCs around me won't do it, even within the 30 day window. They say that the DTT900 and DTT901 are different products, and they can only do an exchange for the same product if the original one is defective.
post #130 of 2239
I looked at the Tigard, OR CC and they had only about 15, all 900s. A clerk asked if he could help, and when I asked about 901s, he said they only had 900s. I asked if that was because they were out, or hadn't got them in yet, and he told me "No, that is the only one the government will send us." I made some comment about that being a Buyer decision for his store and he said "No, these belong to the government, the government buys them for us and sends them to the store, but this is the only one they will let us have." I asked if he'd look it up on computer and see if other local stores had it and he said no, he was too busy with all his other customers, pointing to the one other customer in the area. Maybe they haven't hit the Portland area yet.
post #131 of 2239
Bought 2 901s the other day and ran several side by side tests, here's my findings.
Signal strength-Signal strength is excellent in my location and both boxes picked up and displayed all my stations with no problems. The new 901s did display a slightly higher signal strength and did not change readings as fast as my 900 but again picure was fine on both. I added 22 db of attenuation to my attic antenna which lost me 5 of my 22 stations. Both boxes lost the same channels and all other channels were fine. Next I removed 10db of attenuation which got me back all of my stations, although one had occasional dropouts. Both 900 and 901 dropped out about the same. Conclusion 901 displayed a slightly higher signal strength on the meter but reception was similar. 901 signal strength meter did not fluxuate as fast as the 900 but again similar reception.

PQ-Same PQ 900 & 901

Audio-No annoying shrill audio on the left channel with 901s, 900 did have this. Stereo audio was much louder on 901 than 900. 900 was loud on MONO but STEREO was a tad too soft.

Analog passthru-Will still not work the way I want it. I wanted a button on the remote or setup so I could have the box on(and record to my DVDR) and also watch a different channel on my TV(using passthru), but with their setup I still need my splitter.

Conclusion-I can't see a reason to not exchange your 900 for a 901 if possible. Nothing worse on the 901 compared to the 900, at least in my case.

IMO this is "currently" the best CECB "for the price" out their. If you want to spend a little more and get the CM-7000 you will get "slightly" better reception, better PQ with S-video(if you can use it) as well as a 30 hr EPG. Both have a nice metal case although the CM does run a little warmer than the Zeniths.
post #132 of 2239
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Analog passthru-Will still not work the way I want it. I wanted a button on the remote or setup so I could have the box on(and record to my DVDR) and also watch a different channel on my TV(using passthru), but with their setup I still need my splitter.

JJeff,

Thanks for your excellent review! The only way the analog passthru would work the way you want it would be for them to put a splitter inside the box (the signal would need to go to both the tuner and the output). This would result in a minimum 3dB of loss (more likely 4dB) for everyone, so it is better to let those who want this functionality use an external splitter. By switching the input signal between the tuner and the output, the signal doesn't need to be split and the loss is minimized.
post #133 of 2239
JJeff - How does the RF pass thru work, ie does it happen when unit is in off/standby or does it require the unit to be on & switched to passthru mode?
post #134 of 2239
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Originally Posted by dscek View Post

Although others seem to have had luck doing an exchange, the CCs around me won't do it, even within the 30 day window. They say that the DTT900 and DTT901 are different products, and they can only do an exchange for the same product if the original one is defective.

Try outright returning the DTT-900 and getting credit for the coupon, then go back and buy the 901 later.
post #135 of 2239
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Originally Posted by NuovoTech View Post

JJeff - How does the RF pass thru work, ie does it happen when unit is in off/standby

That's how it works. Unit off --> RF passes through; unit on --> no passthrough. There are no menu settings or buttons on the unit or remote.
post #136 of 2239
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That's how it works. Unit off --> RF passes through; unit on --> no passthrough. There are no menu settings or buttons on the unit or remote.

Thanx for that info! Tho one could say the on/off button on the unit or remote does control RF PassThru?
post #137 of 2239
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Originally Posted by dscek View Post

Although others seem to have had luck doing an exchange, the CCs around me won't do it, even within the 30 day window. They say that the DTT900 and DTT901 are different products, and they can only do an exchange for the same product if the original one is defective.

Their return policy says nothing to this effect. It states that Circuit City will refund or exchange your item within 30 days if you aren't satisfied. Have you asked to speak with a manager? It took me all of five minutes to swap a DTT900 for a DTT901 on Saturday evening, but I said nothing about the DTT900 being defective, as it wasn't. I simply indicated that the DTT901 had analog pass-through, and I wanted a converter with that option. Perhaps you should try that instead.
post #138 of 2239
very happy with the dtt901. good box in all respects. tuner breaks up more than on magnavox boxes though (sanyo (tested 2 of each)). but that tuner is just exceptional, too bad rest of the mag box is just marginal.
post #139 of 2239
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Originally Posted by wh5916 View Post

Their return policy says nothing to this effect. It states that Circuit City will refund or exchange your item within 30 days if you aren't satisfied. Have you asked to speak with a manager? It took me all of five minutes to swap a DTT900 for a DTT901 on Saturday evening, but I said nothing about the DTT900 being defective, as it wasn't. I simply indicated that the DTT901 had analog pass-through, and I wanted a converter with that option. Perhaps you should try that instead.

I went right to the Customer Service Desk. 'Coupon' $40 could not be refunded in any way. I asked about an exchange for a DTT901. They confirmed they had some instock and brought one to the Customer Service Desk for me to exchange.
post #140 of 2239
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

I looked at the Tigard, OR CC and they had only about 15, all 900s. A clerk asked if he could help, and when I asked about 901s, he said they only had 900s. I asked if that was because they were out, or hadn't got them in yet, and he told me "No, that is the only one the government will send us." I made some comment about that being a Buyer decision for his store and he said "No, these belong to the government, the government buys them for us and sends them to the store, but this is the only one they will let us have." I asked if he'd look it up on computer and see if other local stores had it and he said no, he was too busy with all his other customers, pointing to the one other customer in the area. Maybe they haven't hit the Portland area yet.

TalkingRat,

Your salesman was certainly mistaken.

Here's a summary of today's quest to exchange two DTT900 models (of February and March production) at the three area Circuit City stores (including Tigard) for DTT901 models.

These DTT900 models were purchased by me on behalf of relatives. The CC sales receipts are both dated 5/24/08 with both transactions originating at the Hayden Island store. I already had the March DTT900 back in my possession (and it was repacked exactly as it came from the store).

My first stop was picking up the February DTT900 (still packed exactly as it came from the store) from my west side relative.

Next, I stopped at the Tigard store not far from my relative's apartment. This store had a small number of DTT900 models on display (all from February and March). The salesman said they had no DTT901 models. I didn't mention that I had an exchange in mind.

Next, at the Gateway store I looked over their DTT900 models, perhaps around 50 on display (mostly March with a few April). I then inquired at the Merchandise Exchange desk. The young lady there was very helpful. I described the audio problem, sibilance and chirping, with the earlier boxes. I brought in the February DTT900 (complete with all packaging, right down to cables, remote, battery, bags, wire ties, manual, setup and warranty papers, etc.) and the sales receipt indicating one week left to go within the 30 day exchange period. I mentioned that the most recent models, such as the DTT901, corrected the audio problem and is now selling at the same retail price as the DTT900 at CC stores throughout the country. She scanned the sales receipt in order to flag the original transaction for an approved return pending arrival of new stock, even, she explained, if the new stock arrives after the 30 day period. Since her store had no DTT901 models she attempted to submit a special order through the exchange process but reported that the system wouldn't allow a special order related to an exchange. I offered to leave the DTT900 in order to confirm the transaction. "No" she said "just bring it in here or at any Circuit City store next week after more stock arrives."

Next I visited the Hayden Island store. They had around 80-100 DTT900 models on display (March and April) and an unknown quantity in the stock room. A salesman told me that they had no DTT901 models. I asked him to check for DTT901 stock. On their computer he found 13,000 DTT901 models in "our warehouse" but "none of them scheduled for distribution." (This confirms that the local CC stores are holding back DTT901 models until the DTT900 models are sold out.) He said that the only way to get a DTT901 was to place a special order with them and it would arrive with their next regular shipment. I thanked him for the information and left.
post #141 of 2239
If you can't get to a Circuit City carrying a Zenith DTT901 before your CECB coupon expires, you can currently (as of June 18) phone in a coupon order to One.Call which has them in stock. My local, small town, independent Radio Shack is expecting a delivery of 43 Zenith DTT901s sent from Radio Shack's Dallas warehouse by the end of the week. I am on their waiting list and hoping.

One.Call
1-866-340-9991
LG DTT901
NOW: $59.00
AVAILABILITY: In Stock
3-DAY FEDEX: $11.56
Redeem your coupon with our call center during purchase. Coupon cannot be redeemed online. Coupon must be presented at checkout. You may not redeem coupon after purchase. Only one coupon per converter.

Note: Remove the # from one#call. AVS Forum has censored this URL!
http://www.one#call.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=92160
post #142 of 2239
How tacky that CC is holding off until the 900s are gone, that could take at least a month! I suspect, however, that RS is doing exactly the same thing, and that will make it hard for anyone hoping to exchange.
post #143 of 2239
NYC ... The new Circuit City at Lincoln Square (1 train/66th Street) just opened and has a full stock of the DTT901's. Says it right on the box, but doesn't ever mention analog pass through. HOpefully the manual lets people know to turn the box off to get analog.
post #144 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Jon_J View Post

Two days ago the Circuit City in Peoria IL. only had three DTT901 boxes. There were no DTT900s. The shelves were completely empty except for those three boxes.
I need a 3rd converter box, and am waiting to see what develops before Feb 17.

I picked up 2 on monday night (5:30 - 6/16) (Westlake store). They had about 25 901s on the shelf. Maybe they have more than one display?

Probably should have been a PM but there could be someone else from Peoria following here.
post #145 of 2239
Rego Park CC here in Queens has a mix of april 900s and a decent number of 901s.
post #146 of 2239
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Originally Posted by roger1818 View Post

The only way the analog passthru would work the way you want it would be for them to put a splitter inside the box (the signal would need to go to both the tuner and the output).  This would result in a minimum 3dB of loss (more likely 4dB) for everyone ...

But a CECB is a powered device, so it could boost the signal to make up for that loss, couldn't it?  The Magnavox TB-100MG9 works as jjeff was describing, and I intend to be using it that way, so I hope it doesn't weaken the signal too much.

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Originally Posted by ja2bk View Post

NYC ... The new Circuit City at Lincoln Square (1 train/66th Street) just opened and has a full stock of the DTT901's.  Says it right on the box, but doesn't ever mention analog pass through.  Hopefully the manual lets people know to turn the box off to get analog.

You know, I hadn't noticed that the box didn't mention passthrough, but ja2bk is right: it doesn't.  The quick setup guide doesn't either, but the front cover of the manual has one line about it and most of the text on page 16 of the manual is devoted to it.  The instructions are in only two sentences there:
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Originally Posted by DTT901 manual, p. 16 View Post

Simply put, to receive analog stations, turn off the box; the analog signal will "pass-through" the box to be tuned in the TV.  To enjoy the digital stations, tune them through the converter box as explained in this operating guide.

The hyphen in "pass-through" and the quotation marks around it are literally quoted, appearing that way in the manual.
post #147 of 2239
Been checking the page each day, and this evening it says "Online: (Green Box) In Stock". http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...Id=3150601&cp=
Probably be showing up in Rat Shack stores soon--or at least available via Direct2U.
post #148 of 2239
Picked one up at my local CC. There were about 20 901's and about 3 900's...holding on to my coupon in hopes of the DTVpal, but will probably buy another 901, it's really good and the channels change pretty quick. I wish it had more guide though....and the Analog PT is great...
post #149 of 2239
Can anyone tell me - Is the 901 physically the same size as the 900. I have a space problem where the 900 will not fit!
post #150 of 2239
Thread Starter 
Yes. I would make space!
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