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post #1501 of 2239
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Originally Posted by CasualOTAer View Post

For grins, go into the menus and change the set up from 16:9 to 4:3, then try zooming on those problem stations. This may not be the way you want to leave the set up at 4:3, but, try the experiment, and see what you think.

You are right. Setting it to 4:3 would unlock the aspect ratio. Either I didn't notice it last time or the stations aren't setting the aspect ratio.

Mostly what I want to do is make it fill up my 16:9 screen. So both 16:9 and 4:3 programs will use 16:9 with the later doing some stretch. I am a bit disappointed but I think I could work it out with 4:3 setting some how.
post #1502 of 2239
If any of the stations in your area are changing the channel their digital transmitter operates on, go to the menu and select "install guide" to do the rescan. This will reset everything in the CECB and do a new scan.

Do not do Ez-add and do not add channels via the manual channel tuning. The CECB does not forget the old frequencies the stations were using, and you will end up with duplicate channel numbers in the channel list and the box will behave oddly, such as subchannels showing "No signal" while primary channel works just fine.
post #1503 of 2239
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Originally Posted by eyager View Post

If any of the stations in your area are changing the channel their digital transmitter operates on, go to the menu and select "install guide" to do the rescan. This will reset everything in the CECB and do a new scan.

Do not do Ez-add and do not add channels via the manual channel tuning. The CECB does not forget the old frequencies the stations were using, and you will end up with duplicate channel numbers in the channel list and the box will behave oddly, such as subchannels showing "No signal" while primary channel works just fine.

if you do some sort of 'add channels' option, and many people have no choice because of multiple antennas or an antenna on a rotor, then you can manually delete from the old real channel listing (look in 'channel edit' or 'manual tuning' in the menu). it is a one for one with any stations changing real channels, so you may only have to do 1 or 3.

if your antenna only points one direction then a full scan is a good option to save some button pushing.
post #1504 of 2239
Thread Starter 
Since many changes were expected I did a rescan yesterday morning which worked great. One that had been off over 6 mo. still had it's settings.
post #1505 of 2239
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Originally Posted by pixelation View Post

Setting it to 4:3 would unlock the aspect ratio. Either I didn't notice it last time or the stations aren't setting the aspect ratio. Mostly what I want to do is make it fill up my 16:9 screen. So both 16:9 and 4:3 programs will use 16:9 with the later doing some stretch. I am a bit disappointed but I think I could work it out with 4:3 setting some how.

There really is no way to do this automatically on the Zenith, the only way you're going to fill your 16:9 screen at all times is by using your TVs own zoom control. Here in NYC, a surprising amount of programming is still broadcast in 4:3 format even over DTV to a 16:9 television. The result is pillarboxing on TV shows and/or movies, and windowboxing on commercials or any in-between "widescreen" segments. This what you'll receive with the Zenith set to 16:9 mode or a 16:9 tv's own internal tuner.

When the Zenith is set to 16:9 output, it locks the aspect ratio to the broadcast and disables all zoom functions. If the station switches to true 16:9 at various points in the day, the Zenith will dutifully switch the material back and forth from 4:3 to 16:9 as the station dictates. If you set the Zenith to 4:3 output, various zoom functions are enabled but you would need to manually switch them to match the programming. In "auto" or "letterbox" mode, all 4:3 will be pillarboxed and all 16:9 will be letterboxed within a pillarboxed frame (pretty much what you'd get from the locked 16:9 mode). In "crop" mode, most 16:9 material will be zoomed to fill a 4:3 screen, and any 4:3 native material will fill a 4:3 screen. If you use this "cropped" setting on a 16:9 TV, all output from the Zenith will be displayed pillarbox 4:3 in the middle of your screen. Using your TVs own zoom control will fill the entire 16:9 screen by cropping and zooming further, but this impacts image quality and severely impacts framing of scenes. Still, if you can't stand 4:3, its a possible option. When a broadcast comes on that looks like it might be true 16:9, switch the Zenith from "cropped" to "squeezed": this will output an anamorphhic 16:9 image that you can stretch with your TV zoom control to get true accurate full-screen 16:9. While this seems tedious, the option is at least there with the Zenith to make extreme framing choices. Many 16:9 televisions with integrated ATSC tuners stick you with more limited zooming options to cope with random windowbox broadcast choices by stations.
post #1506 of 2239
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Originally Posted by mr100watt View Post

Been happy with the performance and operation of the Insignia NS-DXA1-APT box.

I did notice this one phenomenon before but disregarded it, but tonight I became conscious of a "bug."

After selection close captioning "service 1," and seeing captions, when the signal broke up for more than a few seconds and came back, the cc reverted itself to the "off" position, requiring me to press the "cc" button to reset the close captioning.

I was able to repeat this phenomena with my one box, so it seems like that is a potential problem if a recording is being done when the user is away with the cc feature on - if the picture breaks up for a few seconds or longer, you will lose the close captioning on the recording of a program.

On my Insignia box, if I set CC on a single channel, the setting reverts back to "off" if I leave that channel and come back (and "off" is set in the options menu). If I do set CC in the options menu, it works for all channels and doesn't shut off even if I pull the antenna cable off for a bit. Hope this helps.
post #1507 of 2239
I discovered that the Insignia -APT has a RF harmonic that outputs a weak but viewable picture on channel 8
post #1508 of 2239
Thread Starter 
Using Zenith, & assume same for Insignia.
Select subchannels directly:
Double digit station subchannels can be entered directly. Example 223 is 22-3.
In some cases it is possible to go to a double digit station by entering a single digit. For example if you do not have Ch.4 & do have a double digit station starting with 4, entering 4 will go to the double digit station starting with 4.
Single digit stations use the dash at the bottom of number keypad to select subchannels directly. Example 2-3.

FAV
After channels are added to the FAV list, besides using the up & down arrows, pressing FAV repeatedly will cycle down through the list.
If you are very fast it's possible to hold FAV down & release when it hits the channel you want as it will cycle through the FAV list fast.

Other tips or comments?
post #1509 of 2239
Topics merged.
post #1510 of 2239
SirVette saw me say this in another thread (or was it earlier in this thread? or was it in the thread that was merged into this one, so that now it looks as if it were in this thread?) and asked me to post it here.

Channels from 2.1 through 6.9 can be entered without the dash key by using a leading zero: 062 for channel 6.2, for example.  Channels 7.1 through 9.9 can be entered with or without the leading zero: since virtual OTA channels should not be above 69, the unit assumes that 7, 8, or 9 as the first digit must be a single-digit major channel and that the second digit must be the subchannel.
post #1511 of 2239
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Originally Posted by systems2000 View Post

I discovered that the Insignia -APT has a RF harmonic that outputs a weak but viewable picture on channel 8

Cool... unless you have a local OTA station on ch 8! Nah, it really isn't cool.

So that'd be the third harmonic of ch 3? If you switch the converter's output to ch 4, does the harmonic show up on ch 11?
post #1512 of 2239
I have a Vizio VP505XVT and I would like to use my DTT901 as a second tuner with it. Does anyone know of a remote code that will make the Vizio's univeral remote control the Zenith?
post #1513 of 2239
It sure does, except it's not legible and shows up as diagonal lines.
post #1514 of 2239
Had the most enjoyable experience of using the closed caption feature on the Insignia yesterday. I am not used to having a tv that is caption-capable, let alone other tuners (the CECBs) that offer the cc capability. If someone wasn't deaf, why would a person desire a display of cc, particularly if they were going to record a program and keep that recording for repeated future viewing?

My local PBS station aired "Soundstage," featuring an hour with Jackson Browne. I couldn't make out many of the words he was singing (I don't have a high end monitor or sound system.) I turned on the closed caption feature and was amazed at the captioning.

The only cc display options that resulted in a display were the "service 1" and "cc1." I found that the "service 1" option worked better in that it took up much less screen space (it displayed lyrics and concert audio sound description in a small portion of the bottom left side of the screen) than the "cc1" which displayed text of the lyrics in a larger width format.

Often times the "service 1" cc display left out the last character in a word, as though there were only so many spaces alloted for word display - it always did include a musical not punctuation mark at the end of the phrase. Perhaps the "cc1" captioning would have included the last character or the final word in various captioned displays.

Having the cc lyric display enhanced my appreciation of the Jackson Browne performance tremendously, although I would have enjoyed him alot even without the cc.

I wasn't sure whether I wanted to have my taped copy of the concert with the cc on. Glad I did. The "service 1" display was rather inconspicuous - small, but with text in a size that was still readable."

I did have to remember to reset the cc option, as I stopped my tape at one point, then restarted the taping and realized that the cc wasn't on. (I hadn't set the cc feature from the edit menu, just directly from the remote.)

PS ... Another valuable use of the cc was for deciphering the all too often mumblings in each episode of "24." For some reason, I find the display of sung lyrics in concerts such as the Browne concert, displayed as text to be an invaluable option. As I think of a desire for other artists like Dylan, I think the reason is that these artists are poet laureates, and seeing their lyrics as displayed text as well as heard as sung words adds an extra dimension, allowing for additional appreciation of their artistry.
post #1515 of 2239
Keep in mind that the captions, even though hidden, are recorded onto your recorded media (tape, disc, whatever...), and that someday you'll likely have a newer TV that displays those caption on commend, just like your CECB is doing now.

So you have the option of recording the event with the captions off, with the "someday" option of viewing them again. Of course, if you did that, you wouldn't "now" be able to view those captions.

I recall making an ancient VHS recording of the old BBC COUNT DRACULA from PBS back in the late '70s. When I later played around with a newer TV playing that tape, I was surprised to see that my local PBS affiliate had been testing the "CC1" text capabilities, displaying rows and rows of test characters during that original broadcast. Here I was, years later, viewing the results of that long-ago test.

Harry
post #1516 of 2239
Sorry if this was already posted somewhere. I did a quick search and couldn't find any references.

I have the DTT901 and am planning on using it in my bedroom. Is there any way to turn off the red light when it is in standby mode?

Thanks!
post #1517 of 2239
A strip of black electrical tape did the trick for me

If you still want to see the status of your box, only cover @ 75% of the indicator light. No more night light !
post #1518 of 2239
Thanks. That was my backup plan if there wasn't a setting to do the trick.
post #1519 of 2239
Daveannal you could use a smart power strip that gives power to the Zenith box only when the TV is turned on. I saw one at Wallymart for $20 (Philips SPP3225WA/17) so they should be available cheaper so I am still looking.

If you don’t want to use a smart power strip you can always cut the RED lead on the On/Off power led. Then only the Blue side of the led will work.

Or if you have a soldering pencil you can add a resistor on the Red side of the led and dim it down.
post #1520 of 2239
ron350,

Thanks for suggesting a "Smart Power Strip". I found info. on one called a Smart Strip LCG3... Read the review on Amazon and it certainly looks very useful for people that don't need the converter to be powered for recording purposes.

Before you suggested the "Smart" power strip I'd seen this type of feature built into an APC UPS (Battery Backup Power Strip). I found it to be a very interesting feature and asked a Consumer Rep if this feature was going to be rolled into the "High end" models. He didn't know (The ones with this feature were mostly entry level UPS units).

With a standalone Smart Power Strip I can now "add" this feature to my existing UPS and/or other setups. Thank You.
post #1521 of 2239
My sister lives in a rural area 50-55 miles from the nearest full-power stations, and needed a very good CECB. I bought her a DTT901, due to the reputation it has on the forum. I tested it with a small antenna at her house, and got a couple of channels. I was pleasantly surprised.

I had to find a bigger antenna, and on very short notice, since I was leaving that day. The best I managed to find was a 9' RCA rooftop antenna and 15' of pole. I then connected it, and every station, VHF, and UHF, came in very strongly with no preamp! The weakest station came in at 75%, while most others are 85%. Needless to say, her family is very happy.
post #1522 of 2239
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Originally Posted by ChrisPC View Post

My sister lives in a rural area 50-55 miles from the nearest full-power stations, and needed a very good CECB. I bought her a DTT901, due to the reputation it has on the forum. I tested it with a small antenna at her house, and got a couple of channels. I was pleasantly surprised.

I had to find a bigger antenna, and on very short notice, since I was leaving that day. The best I managed to find was a 9' RCA rooftop antenna and 15' of pole. I then connected it, and every station, VHF, and UHF, came in very strongly with no preamp! The weakest station came in at 75%, while most others are 85%. Needless to say, her family is very happy.

What model RCA did you get? I am in the same situation as your sister and am looking to replace my old outdoor outdoor antenna--have been considering the CM4228 and the XG-91.
post #1523 of 2239
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Originally Posted by daveannal View Post

Sorry if this was already posted somewhere. I did a quick search and couldn't find any references.

I have the DTT901 and am planning on using it in my bedroom. Is there any way to turn off the red light when it is in standby mode?

Thanks!

Not without modifying the converter.

I had the opposite problem, I didn't want to have the blue light but wanted to know if a power failure put the box in "red" standby mode. I just made a red filter to put over the "cyclops" light.

If you can find a blue transparent filter, just but it over the light. Perhaps an old pair of 3-glasses?
post #1524 of 2239
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Originally Posted by janiegirl View Post

What model RCA did you get? I am in the same situation as your sister and am looking to replace my old outdoor outdoor antenna--have been considering the CM4228 and the XG-91.

I think it's the ANT3036X. I got it at Lowe's for $70.
post #1525 of 2239
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Originally Posted by CasualOTAer View Post

Cool... unless you have a local OTA station on ch 8! Nah, it really isn't cool.

So that'd be the third harmonic of ch 3? If you switch the converter's output to ch 4, does the harmonic show up on ch 11?

I'm in Cleveland and we have a major network on Channel 8. Is this a problem for this box?
post #1526 of 2239
All CECB's will tune channels 2-69, although most DTV stations are on channels 7-51 (a few are on 2-6).
post #1527 of 2239
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Originally Posted by systems2000 View Post

All CECB's will tune channels 2-69, although most DTV stations are on channels 7-51 (a few are on 2-6).

Ok, it just sounded like there was a problem with channel 8 on this box.

I haven't used DTV yet, so maybe that station is no longer on channel 8 on the new system anyways.
post #1528 of 2239
aman, I have a channel 8, and it still works to output on CH3.

TVFool.com is an easy way to learn real vs. virtual frequency info for your local stations.
post #1529 of 2239
I've confirmed that any analog station on RF8 will be wiped out by the Insignia -APT (same as the 901). When "ON" (and using the RF3 output of the CECB), there is a harmonic that comes through on RF8. To watch analog RF8, you need to turn the CECB "OFF."
post #1530 of 2239
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Originally Posted by systems2000 View Post

I've confirmed that any analog station on RF8 will be wiped out by the Insignia -APT (same as the 901). When "ON" (and using the RF3 output of the CECB), there is a harmonic that comes through on RF8. To watch analog RF8, you need to turn the CECB "OFF."

Over my head.

When would I need analog? I thought it was all digital now. I guess I just need to know how this affects my real world choice.

Thanks
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