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post #1711 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post

...If I ever pick up a backup set or box, I may try to open em up & take a look at solder quality, or possibly put better caps in as suggested.

The first two photos are top views of both DTT901 circuit boards. The third and fourth photos are top views of both DTT900 circuit boards. The DTT901 boards are from the an early production run in April 2008. The DTT900 boards are from a late production run, also in April 2008. I've never pulled DTT boards out to look at or photograph the bottom sides of these boards.
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post #1712 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post


I never heard of a Funi and it isn't listed in the Wiki comparison site. What's the model number so I can look it up?

I've been looking locally to do the ol' buy/sell/recoup swap with my extra Zinwells. DTVPal or maybe an Apex 501. TRT would be sweet but that's a needle in a haystack.

I have an 8 device RCA (2005) with learning I may try, still using it on my Philips 2006 model....I haven't had luck programming it on an aux or cable sat box setting... using codes provided.

I've shyed from the Apex not only because of their track record, but there tuner is iffy in fringe areas, I'm 29 miles away from the transmitter farm here though I have a shadow of a ridge that may make some stations difficult if not impossible to get.

Funi owns Magnavox, Sylvania & Philco.. pretty much all the same box in different color cases & LED's.
post #1713 of 2232
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

The first two photos are top views of both DTT901 circuit boards. The third and fourth photos are top views of both DTT900 circuit boards. The DTT901 boards are from the an early production run in April 2008. The DTT900 boards are from a late production run, also in April 2008. I've never pulled DTT boards out to look at or photograph the bottom sides of these boards.

Those would had been right befire my run, I don't see conformal coat on these, so that condensation theory may hold. these boxes are cold even after I warm up the room.

Again though we aren't talking about chilling a room into the 40's & 30's either.... I'm keeping it at 60 when I'm away, they seem to be a bit more cantankerous than the past few years when I may had kept it at 62-64... as prices go up & my pay stays the same (or lowers) one of the sacrifices I had to make. I'm figuring the house loses a degree an hour so when I return it's a 60-61 when I return, I shut it at 69.
post #1714 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post

Those would had been right befire my run, I don't see conformal coat on these, so that condensation theory may hold. these boxes are cold even after I warm up the room.

Again though we aren't talking about chilling a room into the 40's & 30's either.... I'm keeping it at 60 when I'm away, they seem to be a bit more cantankerous than the past few years when I may had kept it at 62-64... as prices go up & my pay stays the same (or lowers) one of the sacrifices I had to make. I'm figuring the house loses a degree an hour so when I return it's a 60-61 when I return, I shut it at 69.

In Zenith threads there are a number of discussions of cold or cool environment performance problems in late 2008 and early 2009.

As to production date coding, serial number ranges, production codes, performance and sample variations there are a number of these discussions in Zenith threads beginning around June 2008 and continuing into 2009.

In my photos the coding on the printed circuit boards helps narrow down the actual production dates of the pictured Zenith converter boxes.

The DTT900 main board was approved for production on 28 November 2007, the power supply board was approved for production on 15 November 2007 and the coding on the power supply board indicates a manufacturing date between 21 and 31 March 2008. The DTT900 serial number sticker and box end sticker indicates assembly during April 2008. This data narrows down the final manufacturing date between 1 and 8 April 2008.

The DTT901 main board was approved for production on 8 April 2008, the power supply board was approved for production on 7 April 2008 and the coding on the power supply board indicates an actual manufacturing date of 8 April 2008. The DTT901 serial number sticker and box end sticker indicates assembly during April 2008. This data narrows down the final manufacturing date between 8 and 30 April 2008.
post #1715 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post

I have an 8 device RCA (2005) with learning I may try, still using it on my Philips 2006 model....I haven't had luck programming it on an aux or cable sat box setting... using codes provided.

I've shyed from the Apex not only because of their track record, but there tuner is iffy in fringe areas, I'm 29 miles away from the transmitter farm here though I have a shadow of a ridge that may make some stations difficult if not impossible to get.

Funi owns Magnavox, Sylvania & Philco.. pretty much all the same box in different color cases & LED's.

That's a lot of devices!

Yeah I've heard the Apex's are flaky, esp the 250s; the 502 was suggested by another poster. I'm not crazy about anything Apex, seems like drug store merchandise. I've got a hand-me-down DVD player (it didn't work so they gave it to me, but when I got it home it worked, but now sometimes doesn't work - toggle power, etc.). My only want of this box is an extra for its multi-day EPG, plus it's got features like s-video and smart antenna. I see Wiki lists a different tuner (Samsung) than their other versions (Thomson or Unknown).

Ah now I see the Funai under Mfger on Wiki.
post #1716 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

That's a lot of devices!

Yeah I've heard the Apex's are flaky, esp the 250s; the 502 was suggested by another poster. I'm not crazy about anything Apex, seems like drug store merchandise. I've got a hand-me-down DVD player (it didn't work so they gave it to me, but when I got it home it worked, but now sometimes doesn't work - toggle power, etc.). My only want of this box is an extra for its multi-day EPG, plus it's got features like s-video and smart antenna. I see Wiki lists a different tuner (Samsung) than their other versions (Thomson or Unknown).

Ah now I see the Funai under Mfger on Wiki.

My bad on the spelling Funai!

I bought a Apex 3201 DVD player in December 2001, It was a nice heavy & large chassis (which I like), & the fit & finish seemed nice, but I did not keep it a month, consistantly froze under any imperfection on a disc I would rent.

I looked at the Apex 250, this also had the heavier metal chassis, just were an additional $10 over the Zenith, plus hearing the tuners were not up to snuff for distance. Hear though that the video was a notch above the Zenith, plus the S Jack is nice... though I'm strictly using the RF on channel 4, plus 2 of my sets do not have an S Jack input. The Smart antenna, another fad, smoething else to go wrong. I have a AM stereo Jack on the back of my Pioneer reciever, they likely never made the decoder box for it anyhow.
post #1717 of 2232
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

In Zenith threads there are a number of discussions of cold or cool environment performance problems in late 2008 and early 2009.

As to production date coding, serial number ranges, production codes, performance and sample variations there are a number of these discussions in Zenith threads beginning around June 2008 and continuing into 2009.
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Did not catch any threads on this subject earlier when quering the 901 & temperature issues... the SN's were hard to pin down to exact dates or sequence... infact the codes from the board house did not make sense to me from your pictures... at least from the board houses I currentl deal with, they usually use a sequence of numerical week then 2 digit year. I see you are looking at 2 different model #'s though, the 900 became non existant after production on the 901 was rolling, I has waiting for all the 900's to be purged at my Circuit City before purchasing a 901.... got the first 2 off of different truck shipments if that meant anything, as I was too concerned about the production numbers pressure within the manufacturing plant (I know first hand in an electronics assembly plant how garbage starts to flow through as pressure mounts)

To prove my point I set my T-Stat for 66 today, when returning from work the 901 fired right up... no issues! (I'm going to set it at 64 tomorrow & see what happens).

Edit: My Bad DigaDo... caught another 2 posts on page 44 on this, though these boxes I have, have issues below 65* not 55*.
post #1718 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post

My bad on the spelling Funai!

I bought a Apex 3201 DVD player in December 2001, It was a nice heavy & large chassis (which I like), & the fit & finish seemed nice, but I did not keep it a month, consistantly froze under any imperfection on a disc I would rent.

I looked at the Apex 250, this also had the heavier metal chassis, just were an additional $10 over the Zenith, plus hearing the tuners were not up to snuff for distance. Hear though that the video was a notch above the Zenith, plus the S Jack is nice... though I'm strictly using the RF on channel 4, plus 2 of my sets do not have an S Jack input. The Smart antenna, another fad, smoething else to go wrong. I have a AM stereo Jack on the back of my Pioneer reciever, they likely never made the decoder box for it anyhow.

Close enough, probably pronounced the same anyway. I just didn't bother to look vs mfger until you listed the brands.

My Apex DVD player is an 1145 and it freezes up on certain disks so I bet the same problem. Unit looks good 'on paper' though, they certainly know how to fool us when it comes to marketing.

Definitely don't buy an Apex 250, POS from everything I've read; it may not have the nicer EPG like the 502 either. Yeah the smart antenna feature on these boxes (various brands) is questionable if it even works properly or as desired from what I've read on these threads.

Your TVs don't have composite jacks? Much better pic and sound. Dolby with some but not all boxes. I've heard the RF is mono (maybe box dependent?). I use the S-Video on my CM, even better pic.

That's an unusual jack on that Pioneer receiver. I take it it's for wireless connection to decoded and amplified speakers or daisy-chained receivers.
post #1719 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post

Did not catch any threads on this subject earlier when quering the 901 & temperature issues... the SN's were hard to pin down to exact dates or sequence... infact the codes from the board house did not make sense to me from your pictures... at least from the board houses I currentl deal with, they usually use a sequence of numerical week then 2 digit year. I see you are looking at 2 different model #'s though, the 900 became non existant after production on the 901 was rolling, I has waiting for all the 900's to be purged at my Circuit City before purchasing a 901.... got the first 2 off of different truck shipments if that meant anything, as I was too concerned about the production numbers pressure within the manufacturing plant (I know first hand in an electronics assembly plant how garbage starts to flow through as pressure mounts)

To prove my point I set my T-Stat for 66 today, when returning from work the 901 fired right up... no issues! (I'm going to set it at 64 tomorrow & see what happens).

Edit: My Bad DigaDo... caught another 2 posts on page 44 on this, though these boxes I have, have issues below 65* not 55*.

The earliest discussions of cool or cold environment performance issues are found in DTT900 threads.

What I deem to be the manufacture date of power supply boards is seen at the top center in my photos. The DTT901 board reads 8 108, working out to be the 108th day of 2008 (8 April 2008). The DTT900 board reads 8 09x (with the last number clipped in the photo--narrowing the date range down to 21/31 March 2008). One of the April 2008 DTT900 models (set up for an elderly lady at church) continues in daily use. She also uses two RCA 800 models but reports that the Zenith is better. The other April 2008 DTT900 was given to a relative who never set it up after getting cable the same day. Perhaps that DTT900 remains in a closet or storage area.

I assumed that Zenith/Insignia CECB production was through a single facility. All the DTT900 and 901 red and black shipping boxes were manufactured in Shanghai China. The build out of DTT900 models probably came to its conclusion on or about 8 April 2008 with initial production of DTT901 models beginning on the same or next day. In my 2008 posts I summarize what I deem to be production date coding, serial number ranges, production codes, performance and sample variations of Zenith and Insignia CECBs.

My two April 2008 DTT901 models, both with 0946 production codes with serial numbers in the 446xxx and 449xxx range, remain in my service but have had little use since 2009. Both performed reliably at last use.

Other DTT901 models coming through my hands include a May 2008 2220 with a serial number in the 546xxx range, a June 2008 1700 with a serial number in the 168xxx range, an August 2008 1092 with a serial number in the 219xxx range and a September 2008 0028 with a serial number in the 489xxx range.

One of the two April 2008 DTT900 models that came through my hands had a 1089 production code with a serial number in the 287xxx range. I've reported data for two other DTT900 models from February and March 2008 in the DTT900 thread.

After comparing serial numbers with those provided by other posters I determined that LG reset the serial number range to 100001 at the beginning of each month. By comparing the highest serial number data for a given month of production and subtracting 100000 it would be possible to estimate total monthly production of Zenith and Insignia CECBs. It seems to me that the Insignia green and black shipping box did not identify production codes.
post #1720 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

Your TVs don't have composite jacks? Much better pic and sound. Dolby with some but not all boxes. I've heard the RF is mono (maybe box dependent?). I use the S-Video on my CM, even better pic.

That's an unusual jack on that Pioneer receiver. I take it it's for wireless connection to decoded and amplified speakers or daisy-chained receivers.

No, only the 2006 Philips has a composite (or S) jack, I stricly watch DVD's on that set... the '95 Sony, ''84 Zenith & of course the '78 RCA do not. I don't note any difference between S or the AV jacks on the Philips, in facct the colors are more vibrant on AV.

I mentioned upstream the Philips has issues, always defaults to 'CC on' when powered up forcing me to get the factury remote out to turn it off... now the strange part since the weather got a bit cooler it hasn't been happening (??)

The Pioneer reciver I mentioned is a 1981 model, the jack was just a feature (looks like just an RCA out), that likely they never produced the decoder box for. AM stereo was likely a passing fad & had several formats in use so there was no true standard.
post #1721 of 2232
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

The earliest discussions of cool or cold environment performance issues are found in DTT900 threads.

My two April 2008 DTT901 models, both with 0946 production codes with serial numbers in the 446xxx and 449xxx range, remain in my service but have had little use since 2009. Both performed reliably at last use.

Other DTT901 models coming through my hands include a May 2008 2220 with a serial number in the 546xxx range, a June 2008 1700 with a serial number in the 168xxx range, an August 2008 1092 with a serial number in the 219xxx range and a September 2008 0028 with a serial number in the 489xxx range.

One of the two April 2008 DTT900 models that came through my hands had a 1089 production code with a serial number in the 287xxx range. I've reported data for two other DTT900 models from February and March 2008 in the DTT900 thread.

After comparing serial numbers with those provided by other posters I determined that LG reset the serial number range to 100001 at the beginning of each month. By comparing the highest serial number data for a given month of production and subtracting 100000 it would be possible to estimate total monthly production of Zenith and Insignia CECBs. It seems to me that the Insignia green and black shipping box did not identify production codes.

These issues described on 44 seem to mimic my problem, without cracking the case both of my May 2008 boxes are as follows..

805SHTX200361 & 804SHKH475637.

the June box is stored right now but exhibited the same issue.... never took temp readings on this box though.

I imagine the problem stems from the PS board, so these probably center around certain dates with random stragglers falling behind randomly in the following months.

Has this been pinpointed to any certain components? (since LG does not aknowldege the problem I imagine not).
post #1722 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post
I don't note any difference between S or the AV jacks on the Philips, in facct the colors are more vibrant on AV.
Some TVs have different pic settings per input port, should be visible in the menu (probably have to set the input channel first then enter the menu each time).

That's weird on the 'CC on.' Sounds like a thermal problem with a part such as a memory chip. When the problem returns try unplugging the TV for awhile then plug in and turn on right after plugging in.
post #1723 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

Some TVs have different pic settings per input port, should be visible in the menu (probably have to set the input channel first then enter the menu each time)..

I could just the picture I suppose... I'm using AV & CVI now ...(my bad not S)
though the AV has a warmer tone & more vibrant color.

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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

That's weird on the 'CC on.' Sounds like a thermal problem with a part such as a memory chip. When the problem returns try unplugging the TV for awhile then plug in and turn on right after plugging in.

CC defaults to on every time the power is toggled, seemed to go away in the 'cooler' weather, will have to see if this returns next summer.... the room does not get above 70 in the winter time, as the room is consistantly 80 to upper 80s in the summer.... black roof really draws the heat, & the air does not cool well upstairs.
post #1724 of 2232
After finally playing around a few minutes to get the box going... box was on for about 10 minutes, then the picture goes off.... now it really didn't go dark, I could still get a channel display, or "NO SIGNAL" on blank channels, I still was gettimg audio.

Turned the 901 off & on again picture came back... must really hate the cold or something is not latching up.

I think I picked from a bad run of boxes.

Picked up a LG BD-530 BluRay player for the parents over the holidays (after all they have a widescreen & can take advantage of the better PQ) .. anyhow it is defective as it will not decode 5.1 discs... just stereo & Sub... no center or rear.
post #1725 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post

Picked up a LG BD-530 BluRay player for the parents over the holidays (after all they have a widescreen & can take advantage of the better PQ) .. anyhow it is defective as it will not decode 5.1 discs... just stereo & Sub... no center or rear.

I was researching my Kenwood AV surround receiver manual for a friend who has the same model. Turns out that if I turn channel A and B on at the same time then A does the same thing you described. It looks like some sort of amp sharing between A surround and B (B being used for a second room).
post #1726 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

I was researching my Kenwood AV surround receiver manual for a friend who has the same model. Turns out that if I turn channel A and B on at the same time then A does the same thing you described. It looks like some sort of amp sharing between A surround and B (B being used for a second room).

I'm assuming this does everything through the HDMI cable transparently, the BlueRay is set to 3/2 surround (which is 5.1)... the other DVD player & TV reproduces surround internally or via the HDMI.

I claim ignorance, I just don't like wires all over my living room, bad enough as it is already (I'm still using my Pioneer SX-3700 1981 vintage) .. has front & rear (A & B) channels that can be turned on & off at will.

I just can't see upgrading this reciever, there is no new features on anything I see that I desire except for station ID/info tags & HD radio which is only currently available on high end systems.
post #1727 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post

I'm assuming this does everything through the HDMI cable transparently, the BlueRay is set to 3/2 surround (which is 5.1)... the other DVD player & TV reproduces surround internally or via the HDMI.

I claim ignorance, I just don't like wires all over my living room, bad enough as it is already (I'm still using my Pioneer SX-3700 1981 vintage) .. has front & rear (A & B) channels that can be turned on & off at will.

I just can't see upgrading this reciever, there is no new features on anything I see that I desire except for station ID/info tags & HD radio which is only currently available on high end systems.

Yeah that would be different as the Pioneer is stereo only. Although now I'm wondering how you would get surround out of the Pioneer (no HDMI ports) from the BlueRay. Sounds like the HDMI goes to the TV then the TV audio out to the Pioneer. If so, what does the TV audio out to the Pioneer consist of?
post #1728 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post
Yeah that would be different as the Pioneer is stereo only. Although now I'm wondering how you would get surround out of the Pioneer (no HDMI ports) from the BlueRay. Sounds like the HDMI goes to the TV then the TV audio out to the Pioneer. If so, what does the TV audio out to the Pioneer consist of?
My Parents have a Sony TV with 3 HDMI ports & a Sony surround system which is hooked up optical to the TV, meaning anything that goes through the TV (including the TV itself) is 5.1 if the info is available. I would like to see if hooked up correctly but I will not have that opportunity to get over there till after March (I trust they did it right, it's only 1 HDMI cable) ... I'll have to have them pack it up so I may return it before then unfortunately.

As for the Pioneer, you cant get 5.1, I only have my DVD player hooked into a 2 channel TDK/NTX Stereo sub... this only accomodates DVD's there is no audio link between my DVD player & my TV anymore... best $35 (Target clearance years ago) I ever spent
post #1729 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post
My Parents have a Sony TV with 3 HDMI ports & a Sony surround system which is hooked up optical to the TV, meaning anything that goes through the TV (including the TV itself) is 5.1 if the info is available. I would like to see if hooked up correctly but I will not have that opportunity to get over there till after March (I trust they did it right, it's only 1 HDMI cable) ... I'll have to have them pack it up so I may return it before then unfortunately.

As for the Pioneer, you cant get 5.1, I only have my DVD player hooked into a 2 channel TDK/NTX Stereo sub... this only accomodates DVD's there is no audio link between my DVD player & my TV anymore... best $35 (Target clearance years ago) I ever spent
My bad as I'm mixing up your parents setup with your setup. After further review...

Also could be Menu>Audio settings on the TV since it's acting like an audio switch and possible decoder/encoder; auxilliary input settings (BlueRay).
BTW if the Sony surround system can take in HDMI it would be another step up in quality from optical (HD audio).

I don't know about the Zenith but some of the converter boxes have Dolby Digital audio; has to be decoded though.
post #1730 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

BTW if the Sony surround system can take in HDMI it would be another step up in quality from optical (HD audio)

i'm pretty sure HDMI audio and optical audio are equivalent...
post #1731 of 2232
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Originally Posted by hitbyambulance View Post

i'm pretty sure HDMI audio and optical audio are equivalent...

Nope, see the pgh next to the optical cable pic:

http://www.tested.com/news/hdmi-vs-o...onnection/632/

Ironically (in ref to Bismarck), I had looked into the subject for my Mom's new LCD TV. I'm still on the low-end meself. $

Your ID is classic!
post #1732 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Floydage View Post

Nope, see the pgh next to the optical cable pic:

http://www.tested.com/news/hdmi-vs-o...onnection/632/

Ironically (in ref to Bismarck), I had looked into the subject for my Mom's new LCD TV. I'm still on the low-end meself. $

Your ID is classic!

With any blu ray player hooked to that Sony LCD, you must switch the source from movies to music to get a 'simulated' 5.1 sound! Incompatibility or what? We tried a Panasonic Blu Ray same thing, impossible to get true 5.1 out of a Blu Ray period! (tempted to try a Sony though... support claims it will work)

Back to the 901, I've decided to just not turn on the TV until the house warms up as I'm cycling the power tap several times now to get it going.... even notice my Sony TV takes about 3-5 minutes to get a picture on the screen & thats even AFTER the 901 gets going.... going to see if this still takes as long next summer, might just be another cold weather issue. I tend to run things to the ground so these TV's will stay untill completely useless, but I'm really irate on what is going on with the captions on the 4 year old lightly used Philips Tube.

They say everything runs better 'cooler', what a farce! This winter has been a disaster in damage, the ice has destroyed my roof, so cold the leather seats in the car split (yeah only 4 years old!) all the gas hood/tailgate struts failed, exhaust system shot from the constant heat cool cycles, & actually shattered a brand new plastic snow shovel last evening (too cold) as it hasn't been above freezing for a few hours in the last month.
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That's weird on the Blue Ray but I'm too low-end to have experience with that setup (my Mom doesn't have one yet ).

Hmmm, maybe an entertainment center space heater for start-up?

Well electronics are more reliable cold but most things are optimized at room temp. And a lot of circuits latch-up and such at sub-freezing temps. Now receivers have better sensitivity when cold.

Man that's cold. We get a nasty shot here tommorow but it never lasts long. The end of your post reminds me of that humor email where the guy writes about his move to somewhere real cold and thinks everything will be OK, but as each week goes by he slowly goes mad as the pain of it all wears him down.
post #1734 of 2232
Not many HDTVs will pass 5.1 sound from an HDMI connected component through the digital optical output. That is intended for 5.1 sound from the TV's internal tuner. Sound from any other TV input source will usually be down sampled to PCM stereo over the optical output.

With a surround sound system, the proper way to connect is BluRay/DVD player to the surround sound system first. Then HDMI out to the TV.

If your surround system does not have HDMI inputs you should use the BluRay/DVD SPDIF (optical or coaxial) to send the 5.1 digital directly to the surround system with HDMI from the player to the TV for video. This may result in some lip sync issues. If so look for options in the TV or surround system setup to compensate.

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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post
My Parents have a Sony TV with 3 HDMI ports & a Sony surround system which is hooked up optical to the TV, meaning anything that goes through the TV (including the TV itself) is 5.1 if the info is available. I would like to see if hooked up correctly but I will not have that opportunity to get over there till after March (I trust they did it right, it's only 1 HDMI cable) ... I'll have to have them pack it up so I may return it before then unfortunately.

As for the Pioneer, you cant get 5.1, I only have my DVD player hooked into a 2 channel TDK/NTX Stereo sub... this only accomodates DVD's there is no audio link between my DVD player & my TV anymore... best $35 (Target clearance years ago) I ever spent
post #1735 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Bismarck440 View Post
This winter has been a disaster in damage, the ice has destroyed my roof, so cold the leather seats in the car split (yeah only 4 years old!) all the gas hood/tailgate struts failed, exhaust system shot from the constant heat cool cycles, & actually shattered a brand new plastic snow shovel last evening (too cold) as it hasn't been above freezing for a few hours in the last month.
Yeah, this global warming sure is terrible, huh?

We're supposed to get a massive snowstorm here in N. IL. in the next couple of days. Maybe we'll get lucky and it will miss us (or at least miss me).
post #1736 of 2232
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Originally Posted by gerhard911 View Post

Not many HDTVs will pass 5.1 sound from an HDMI connected component through the digital optical output. That is intended for 5.1 sound from the TV's internal tuner. Sound from any other TV input source will usually be down sampled to PCM stereo over the optical output....

That's true, but my Sony W4100 LCD for one, does do just that. I have all my 5.1 devices hooked via HDMI to my Sony and run a optical cable from my Sony to AVR and I get 5.1 just fine
I'm glad my TV does this since my AVR has no HDMI inputs and only one coax and one optical input. In essence I'm using my TV as a switcher.

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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

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We're supposed to get a massive snowstorm here in N. IL. in the next couple of days. Maybe we'll get lucky and it will miss us (or at least miss me).

Didn't miss my area 6 more inches of snow and now the cold
You should be getting it in a day or two
post #1737 of 2232
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Yeah, this global warming sure is terrible, huh?

We're supposed to get a massive snowstorm here in N. IL. in the next couple of days. Maybe we'll get lucky and it will miss us (or at least miss me).

Currently getting slammed (5 am Tuesday), suppose to sleet (while the temps stay in the low 20's??) then back to snow & heavy winds.. & another storm on Wednesday AM (yeah can it get worse?) .... now I had to have my basement sealed as 'chemical' (I live near an expressway) is leeching into my basement walls & floor, & garage, this is eating away at the foundation & causing damage to concrete.... No wonder we have such a high rate of heart disease in this area, as we are injesting & breathing these chemicals... give me global warming any day!

You folks in the south are lucky to get breaks or pretty much stay warm, since the beginning of December it has only been above freezing about 3-4 days, & these are high temps, don't look like we are going to get a January thaw this year unless I want to count New years Eve/day.
post #1738 of 2232
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Originally Posted by gerhard911 View Post

Not many HDTVs will pass 5.1 sound from an HDMI connected component through the digital optical output. That is intended for 5.1 sound from the TV's internal tuner. Sound from any other TV input source will usually be down sampled to PCM stereo over the optical output.

With a surround sound system, the proper way to connect is BluRay/DVD player to the surround sound system first. Then HDMI out to the TV.

If your surround system does not have HDMI inputs you should use the BluRay/DVD SPDIF (optical or coaxial) to send the 5.1 digital directly to the surround system with HDMI from the player to the TV for video. This may result in some lip sync issues. If so look for options in the TV or surround system setup to compensate.

I'm going to digest this & see exactly how this is hooked up, though the Sony surround unit is like a reciever, has a tuner (AM/FM) & a built in upscaling DVD player into it.

JJeff, AVR meaning Audio/Video reciever? ... this is what I think the Sony surround unit actually is... I'm antiquated on the terminology at times.
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JJeff, AVR meaning Audio/Video reciever? ... this is what I think the Sony surround unit actually is... I'm antiquated on the terminology at times.

Yes, Audio/Video Receiver, truth be told I never used that term before coming to AVS and now I'm using it
My Sony AVR is basically what I used to call a Receiver but includes a couple AV inputs that I don't use and the Coax and optical audio inputs that I do use. If it had HDMI inputs I wouldn't have to use my HDTV for a switcher but since my TV works in that capacity I haven't bothered upgrading my AVR.
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Yes, Audio/Video Receiver, truth be told I never used that term before coming to AVS and now I'm using it
My Sony AVR is basically what I used to call a Receiver but includes a couple AV inputs that I don't use and the Coax and optical audio inputs that I do use. If it had HDMI inputs I wouldn't have to use my HDTV for a switcher but since my TV works in that capacity I haven't bothered upgrading my AVR.

That term AV reciever is kinda a misnomer as it does not actually have a tv tuner, just Audio & video passthroughs for switching & intigrating... am I correct here? This always confused me.

Being so antiquated I never saw a reason to replace my old Pioneer, as I don't run TV audio through the reciever I just use the TV speakers for the TV VCR & a seperate sub/satelites for the DVD.

Now if I could get the HD radio option.....
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